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The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

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Most churches today teach false doctrines for several reasons:

ignorance, unbelief, for popularity, for financial benefit, etc.

Only a few churches are teaching correct doctrine these days.

There is more to correct doctrine than “Jesus is Lord and Savior”.

Many Spirit-filled Christians are warning, “The church is fast asleep!”

 

Grace-only, cheap-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism …

are all called antinomianism!  This is the notion that a one-time

justification saves … apart from sanctification.  But, this is an

incomplete understanding of God’s wonderful free gift of grace!

The problem with easy-believism is that it allows

those who are living in hypocrisy, disobedience, and sin

(i.e. those who are NOT walking in obedience)

to live comfortably with a false assurance of salvation!

This leads to the tragedy described in Matthew 7:21-23 (for example). 

 

“… some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches,

saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.

… they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 4-5, NLT)

 

There are at least 10 NT verses for each of the following truths …

Believers prove they have true saving faith:

1 -- by their obedience

2 -- by practicing righteousness

3 -- by living holy lives

4 -- by having a healthy fear of God

5 -- by repenting of their occasional sins

6 –- by overcoming sin, the world, Satan, persecution

7 -- by enduring in the faith to the end of their lives

Re: #4 … If people are believing and trusting in grace-only, cheap-grace,

hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc., HOW can they be fearing God?

 

So, all of these verses PROVE the road to eternal life is indeed narrow,

and believers are responsible for playing their part in their salvation!

Or, shall we view these verses as merely bluffs, exaggerations, lies even?

 

Initially, through His grace, God gives to new believers:

Jesus’ righteousness, redemption, reconciliation, etc. and salvation.

However, this grace/salvation is NOT guaranteed to last forever!

Because ONLY their old-past-former sins have been forgiven (2 Peter 1:9).

And because NT verses warn about the possibility of losing salvation.

Some believers became “estranged from Christ”

… they had “fallen from grace” (Galatians 5:4).

Some believers are “of those who draw back to perdition” (Hebrews 10:39).

And there are many more warning verses.

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A True Born Again...hands their life over to the Lord,is led by the Holy Spirit,on the day of their salvation,they are a new being,they are re- born in the Spirit...it's a relationship,which takes time to build.....I ask him every day to keep me in line with his will...if I mess up,..he lifts me up and I start again....there is no condemnation,for those who are in Christ Jesus...we walk after the Spirit,and are dieing to the flesh.

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Yes, of course, but my purpose is to WARN

those who think they're A-OK, but are not.

Believe me, people take what I say so personal (esp. women).

That's been my experience over 10 years or so.

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20 minutes ago, ZacharyB said:

Yes, of course, but my purpose is to WARN

those who think they're A-OK, but are not.

Believe me, people take what I say so personal (esp. women).

That's been my experience over 10 years or so.

If God places something on your heart to post...we must do it....regardless of who takes it personally....

lets pray for those who take posts personally....let God lead them into his truth...in Jesus  Name.

 

if God has given that to you..."Warn" then do it.

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I'm not sure if you understand that ...

I meant some people take it as if I'm warning them

... when, in fact, they do NOT need to be warned.

And, of course, it's a blanket warning ...

for I usually don't know who needs to be warned.

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13 minutes ago, ZacharyB said:

I'm not sure if you understand that ...

I meant some people take it as if I'm warning them

... when, in fact, they do NOT need to be warned.

And, of course, it's a blanket warning ...

for I usually don't know who needs to be warned.

 

13 minutes ago, ZacharyB said:

I'm not sure if you understand that ...

I meant some people take it as if I'm warning them

... when, in fact, they do NOT need to be warned.

And, of course, it's a blanket warning ...

for I usually don't know who needs to be warned.

So,they take it personally,is what you said...enough said from me....I don't take anything personally...."Now Watch God Test Me"!....LOL.

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“ God’s grace allows us to live immoral lives”

Nobody, including you, is living a “ moral life”. If we knew you like God knows you we would be sick to our stomachs .....you have secret thoughts every hour of every day that would shame Hell.....just like every other human being in a body of flesh...

God knows this, even if you don’t.That's why we would be fools to “ hold back” the Grace of God. It is the ONLY thing that has saved anybody.In the future, please don’t insult me by saying guys like me believe in “ Hyper Grace.” I believe in “ SUPER HYPER GRACE” When you stand before God as the wretched Sinner that you are and finally understand that Grace is  the  only hope that you have to be saved— your gonna wish you had believed in Super Hyper Grace......you and everybody else will be crying out for it. Me?.....I already got it ....I got it before it’s too late to ask for it.....

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Jesus accepts the faith of anyone as anyone is and as will be....

and as anyone continue to believe as one is...Jesus accepts anyone's faith in him, always as one is..

The moment anyone is when he believes....he is ready to die from that moment on...he is under the atonement of the blood of Jesus Christ...he may have peace or he may not....it does matter...he may be saturated with hatred...still he is called to believe as one is...

Jesus payed for his sins....he is forgiven...

Jesus has died for anyone's sins  he has committed that far...

Jesus did not die for sins who are not committed yet....by someone...

But as they are committed then they are included, then he says, yes I have died for this sin....and that sins...all sins who are committed...

Even if you have blaspheme the Holy Spirit...Jesus accepts your faith.....but you may have one problem...you are not going to have this close fellowship with the Holy Spirit....and then who knows...it's not about our selves all the time...

What is the definition to blaspheme the Holy Spirit..not easy to say....does it happened to a believer....or to an unbeliever...

God is always helping you in this life...no matter what...Jesus died for you...you have his forgiveness. 

So as we go by and as believers we commit a sin...the sin is in our past...we believed during the sin and we believed after the sin...it is in our past...it is behind us...in our dust as we move along...tick tock....tick tock....and we carry the shame and the trouble in our heart to the present......even by remembering....we excused, justify... manipulate...ask for God's help...we repent...we beat our selfs...like our sins are going to sent us far away in Hell with the Devil...we experienced hell and the devils while we live...

The time will come that our sins will take us far away from God but not in Hell...we need to see our darkness.. So Jesus allows us to keep company with the  darkness we have kept our secret double life...

He is waiting for our joy of sin to turn to agony and gnashing of teeth...waiting for us...to repent...

But he accepts our faith as we always are.  In any situation we are...he loved us to pay the penalty for our sins..so we can be with him always.  As we are we will never stop believing...he is our peace with God.. And always try to stay away from trouble and sin...

Little children do not be afraid...even if we die suddenly...our next of kin will come and take us...as he does for those of his own who could not suffered to live any longer and took their lives.. Jesus is always the answer.. He can always restored.  If not in this life then in the life after with him..

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17 hours ago, ZacharyB said:

Most churches today teach false doctrines for several reasons:

ignorance, unbelief, for popularity, for financial benefit, etc.

Only a few churches are teaching correct doctrine these days.

There is more to correct doctrine than “Jesus is Lord and Savior”.

Many Spirit-filled Christians are warning, “The church is fast asleep!”

 

Grace-only, cheap-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism …

are all called antinomianism!  This is the notion that a one-time

justification saves … apart from sanctification.  But, this is an

incomplete understanding of God’s wonderful free gift of grace!

The problem with easy-believism is that it allows

those who are living in hypocrisy, disobedience, and sin

(i.e. those who are NOT walking in obedience)

to live comfortably with a false assurance of salvation!

This leads to the tragedy described in Matthew 7:21-23 (for example). 

 

“… some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches,

saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.

… they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 4-5, NLT)

 

There are at least 10 NT verses for each of the following truths …

Believers prove they have true saving faith:

1 -- by their obedience

2 -- by practicing righteousness

3 -- by living holy lives

4 -- by having a healthy fear of God

5 -- by repenting of their occasional sins

6 –- by overcoming sin, the world, Satan, persecution

7 -- by enduring in the faith to the end of their lives

Re: #4 … If people are believing and trusting in grace-only, cheap-grace,

hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc., HOW can they be fearing God?

 

So, all of these verses PROVE the road to eternal life is indeed narrow,

and believers are responsible for playing their part in their salvation!

Or, shall we view these verses as merely bluffs, exaggerations, lies even?

 

Initially, through His grace, God gives to new believers:

Jesus’ righteousness, redemption, reconciliation, etc. and salvation.

However, this grace/salvation is NOT guaranteed to last forever!

Because ONLY their old-past-former sins have been forgiven (2 Peter 1:9).

And because NT verses warn about the possibility of losing salvation.

Some believers became “estranged from Christ”

… they had “fallen from grace” (Galatians 5:4).

Some believers are “of those who draw back to perdition” (Hebrews 10:39).

And there are many more warning verses.

well done, @ZacharyB.. you are right .. hopefully, many will see such .. part of the problem is that the world we live in has become more and more one of man-loving, man-pleasing, man-serving instead of God-loving, God-pleasing, God-serving .. too many want an "easy" rather than "God" Way .. I think those who claim all they have to do is believe are cheating themselves of truth and of having a wholly fulfilling relationship with God .. they are putting all on Him and assuming no responsibility for themselves and their choices and that is not a true relationship .. a relationship is "two-sided" .. God is and always will be doing His part but we need to do our part or there is NO relationship .. I know many will jump on me for saying this but I stand by what I truly believe which is simple:

1. believe

2. love Christ

3. obey His two great Commandments of LOVE that He COMMANDS those who love Him to keep

4. confess to Him when I fail to obey and ask His forgiveness which is not automatic and be forgiven and unpunished .. and to use this "repentance" aka "turning back to God with changed heart to doing His Will, not my will" to help me better resist temptation and to better overcome sinfulness .. 

nothing "lucky" about repentance itself but I guess it is "lucky" that some of us believe in and value repentance for what it truly is and what it truly does .. it is a healer and helper and that is a "good" thing

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6 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

1. believe

2. love Christ

3. obey His two great Commandments of LOVE that He COMMANDS those who love Him to keep

4. confess to Him when I fail to obey and ask His forgiveness which is not automatic and be forgiven and unpunished .. and to use this "repentance" aka "turning back to God with changed heart to doing His Will, not my will" to help me better resist temptation and to better overcome sinfulness .. 

nothing "lucky" about repentance itself but I guess it is "lucky" that some of us believe in and value repentance for what it truly is and what it truly does .. it is a healer and helper and that is a "good" thing

Excellent, sister ... or ... Excellent sister.

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