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Hebrews 10

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
>Willfully living and continuing in sin is seen as adversarial to God. He calls you an adversary. One who fights against him? How do you fight against Him. Well if He has given you the Holy Spirit who is to lead you into all truth, the Spirit of Grace who is to convict you of sin and righteousness. Now you resist the Holy Spirit (who is in you). You set your face against Him, against His commands, against his leadings.

28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
>Here we have a contrasting passage. The writer will contrast the law under Moses against that of the New Covenant. What he is saying is this: If such a transgression under the old law received "X" punishment, then how much more serious is transgression under the new covenant..

29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
>For someone to come to Christ, to understand the gravity of who they were in their old man, to fall at the feet of the King of Mercy, plead their case and receive such love when the Lord says "You are forgiven". To feel such elation the first time you feel that quickening and excitement when the Spirit uses you for His purposes. Then for the tempter to come back with His old tricks. For you to dip your toes into those waters again. To hear the voice of the Spirit saying "No my child, that is not for you". To bounce around in and out of sin and repentance (washing machine), each time the sin lasting longer, and each time the repentance being a little shorter, till you no longer are just tipping your toe into the pond, but you are diving headlong into it. No longer hearing God. No longer feeling any pangs of guilt or shame in what you are doing. You have trampled the Son of God underfoot. You have counted the blood of the covenant by which you were sanctified a common thing. You have insulted the Spirit of Grace. By now you have committed the unforgiveable sin.

30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
>Read that once again. Look for the words "His people". He is not applying this to the unregenerate. The lost who never knew Him. He applies this judgement against His people. Those who were at one time His. Apostasy is real, people.

32 But recall the former days in which, after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: 33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated;
>the walk of faith takes perseverance. It's not a ONE TIME FAST FOOD CHOICE to SUPERSIZE ME. It is a continual walk. It is continual faith and trust. It has hardships and obstacles along the way. Its called the endurance of the saints for a reason Rev14v12.

34 for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven. 35 Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward.
>imagine joyfully accepting the plundering of your goods. This is only possible for believers who continue in the faith. This would have broken many who were secure in their one-time-only-decision.

36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:
>After you have done the will of God....Endurance....continuing in the faith is the TRUTH. Don't let deceivers tell you any different.
>Those who CONTINUE will RECEIVE THE PROMISE, all along doing the will of God.

37 “For yet a little while,
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.
38 Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”
>It could not be clearer. You HAVE TO live by faith and no other way. Continually. Not giving up on God.
>Anyone drawing back from the faith (by this it means drawing back from Christ either in terms of profession, or of willful actions to quench the Spirit permanently (Heb10v26) has reached a point of no return.

39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
>May none here reading this draw back, but press on in the faith - ones who (continually) believe WHICH RESULTS IN the saving of the soul.

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Yes, this is clearly speaking of people that got genuinely saved and later fell away.  Good post.

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Amen, there is no 'ticket to heaven' there is no magic spell to be said that will get one into heaven. Believing that a prayer grants some sort of ticket into heaven, is the same as believing that there is a magic spell one can say to get into heaven. 

What avails anything is faith that demonstrates itself by love. What avails anything is a new creation; a person who has let the Holy Spirit of God change them from the inside out.

"They that are Christs, have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24

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10 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Amen, there is no 'ticket to heaven' there is no magic spell to be said that will get one into heaven. Believing that a prayer grants some sort of ticket into heaven, is the same as believing that there is a magic spell one can say to get into heaven. 

What avails anything is faith that demonstrates itself by love. What avails anything is a new creation; a person who has let the Holy Spirit of God change them from the inside out.

"They that are Christs, have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24

 

The prayers in and of themselves don’t save anyone.....it is the Contrite Heart, made that way by a Gift Of The Holy Spirit, That the prayers represent ,that leads to Salvation.There “IS” a ticket to Heaven.....Anybody that turns to God with a Contrite Heart, and says the equivalent of what the Publican said—“ Lord, have Mercy on me, a sinner!” Will be “ Justified”— made fit for Heaven. Jesus said so.

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12 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

The prayers in and of themselves don’t save anyone.....it is the Contrite Heart, made that way by a Gift Of The Holy Spirit, That the prayers represent ,that leads to Salvation.There “IS” a ticket to Heaven.....Anybody that turns to God with a Contrite Heart, and says the equivalent of what the Publican said—“ Lord, have Mercy on me, a sinner!” Will be “ Justified”— made fit for Heaven. Jesus said so.

"And they that are Christs, have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24

That crucifixion is a process, but it is happening in the life of every sincere believer, our 'ticket', that we literally have, is the Holy Spirit, but you see, the Holy Spirit is not a ticket or a thing, the Holy Spirit is a person, the Holy Spirit is God literally inside of us, desiring to personally interact with us and lead us, if we do not follow Him, we become His enemy and therefore we will not make it, we will loose even faith.

"Some of the things Paul said are hard to understand, and unlearned men will take and twist them" 2 Peter 3:15-16

Therefore let us learn, what's to learn? Scripture, Paul was always speaking from and referring to scripture, or words Christ spoke.

"They grieved His Holy Spirit therefore He was turned to be their enemy" Isiah 63:10

"grieve not the Holy Spirit.." Ephesians 4:30

"..For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God" Ephesians 5:5

Therefore we are not of them that ignore and grieve the Spirit unto destruction, we are of them that listen to and follow the Spirit, knowing that the Spirit spoke the most directly through Christ, therefore the first fruit of the Spirit that Paul lists is love, for the words, the teachings from Christ, are all summarized by love. As we concentrate on following the simple teachings of Christ, our fleshly desires will be overcome, and Galatians 5:24 will shine true in our lives.

Edited by Desopixi Seilynam
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