Guest K9Buck Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua153 Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 219 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 83 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 Your title 'so-called' applies to most, as I believe most are following the 'other Jesus' of 2Cor11v4. True believers, chosen by God, are Jews of the heart, as God only loves Spiritual Israel, the 'apple of His eye'. Rom2v28-29 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God. Just to say, there are no demons (that Jews believed were their ancestors traits within them), they are the same as Celts & their faeries, Romans & their guardian angels, Arabs & their genies, all being forms of self. Demons are daimon, from daio, meaning 'to distribute fortunes', which is self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, K9Buck said: I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. Many hate the Jews because they hate God. The Jews are God's chosen people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, K9Buck said: I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. I believe they are influenced by spirits.. evil spirits. A Christian should love others even if they believe they are their enemies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, maryjayne said: Most Jews do not hate God. I think you have read that statement wrong.. Quote Many hate the Jews because they hate God. I think the "they" in the sentence is talking about the ''Many" who hate Jews.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 I was responsible for the death of Jesus.....what about you? My sins and your sins put Jesus on that Cross.....The Jews and the Romans were unknowing “ actors” in God’s Great Plan Of Redemption...Jesus died for the Sins of the World......If one is a sinner ( and “ all have fallen short ) , you played your part in the torture of the God of the Universe... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,623 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 hours ago, K9Buck said: I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. I think you will find that there are about as many reasons as there are groups of people. I would say that the start of it all happened at the Tower of Babel. According to Jewish writings I have read over the years when the Tower of Babel was being constructed Eber would not go along with it's building so when God split the people up he did not change the language of Eber and his family.... it is said that God divided the people according to the number or sons of God. It is written that these sons of God were put over each of the groups of people, but because Eber kept loyalty to God, God kept Eber's people as his own. Throughout history the Hebrew people have been feared, envied and disliked by the rest of the world starting because God kept them for himself.... the Sons of God didn't like it and they taught the people they were over not to like it either. Then you get the split from Esau and the hard feelings from Ishmael and it goes from there. Those are basic dislikes that throughout the centuries have often festered into hate. Then the early Church was down on Jews because the leaders at the time were responsible for the Romans killing Jesus. Paul corrects those of his time and reminds them that it is through the Jews that Christ came and we owe it to them the respect for that.... during his time he would state that though the Jews were their enemy, we still owed them the respect of being God's people for it was through them that we got the Old Testament introducing us to Him. Then the Catholic Church pretty much cursed Jewish peoples as a whole for the death of Jesus and it has spread from there. But there is still that spiritual level that started at Babel that makes us prone to fall into that. Today people hate Jews because they have been taught to, and our spiritual nature tends to make that an easy trip for us. Did the Jewish People kill Jesus..... the leaders of the temple and at most a couple of hundred did. That's about all that would fit in Pilots area for people to gather... It would be kind of like us hating all Americans because half of the congressional house did something that was devastating to us. And that's just how foolish it is for Christians to hate Jews. And since we have been grafted into Gods family it's like we are hating our own roots...… …… but I guess in the long run humankind as a whole has never really shown a very large capacity for having much common sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 940 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,412 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 8,958 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, K9Buck said: I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. Hi, There are groups that are against Israel and have joined boycott of all Israeli enterprises. They will not invest in Israeli owned stocks, they boycott products of companies that do business with Israeli firms. There is also a long time terrible teaching going on in many if not most Christian Seminaries today that snuck in via a textbook originally, promoting Replacement Theology, places that once would have rejected that heresy immediately. Yet it now has been taught for over thirty years. Many now elders and pastors have been brought up with that teaching. It is real it is a terrible error. See Replacement theology online. Also search it out within the Zola Levitt Ministries Newsletter archives. There is much detailed information there. https://www.levitt.com/wp-content/uploads/LL-2019-06.pdf and note; Levitt Letter — August 1998 https://old.levitt.com/newsletters/1998-08 I won't take space to redefine this subject again, assuming that most of you have been reading this Letter right along. I'll just say that a textbook, A Survey of The New Testament, third edition, written by Robert H. Gundry, teaches Replacement Theology and is anti-Israel and anti-Semitic, and we have found it in use in any number of seminaries and Bible colleges, including Criswell ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 897 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,621 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,821 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Some of it comes from the underlying antisemitism of replacement theology. True theology is rather inclusive theology from which the Jews who reject Jesus turned away. To which they can certainly turn back!!! Romans 11. Most of antisemitism comes from Satan. Shock. Right? Satan hates the Jews with a purple passion because the Jews brought the Word of God into the world in two forms: the written and the Living: Jesus Christ God the Word personified. Here's the thing most folks forget, never realized... our flesh sin nature is a pipeline of Satan into our lives. This among many other reasons is why we are admonished to live by the spirit rather than the flesh. This is why when we live by the flesh (though it seems so natural at the time) we end up in so much trouble all the time. This is the pipeline through which Satan conveys antisemitism even to Christians. Notice I left off the OP's "so-called." True Christians can be misled, friend. I remember hearing people say "You can't be a Christian and vote for Obama or Romney or Sanders..." To which I responded, that statement made me question whether that person who said it understands what being a Christian is... A believer in the genuine Jesus Christ. ← period. Not that I am saying this about the OP. I am saying, sometimes we do not realize the logical outcome of what we are saying. That's all. Edited January 21, 2020 by JohnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 344 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,393 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,321 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 9 hours ago, K9Buck said: I never understood the special hatred that many otherwise "normal" people seem to have for Jews. I guess I ultimately attribute such hatred to demonic influence because I cannot fathom a legitimate reason. I suspect because of a number of reasons: 1. They are God's special and chosen people. Our Bible came through the Jews. Jesus was born a Jew. The Lord's Word was penned and preserved through the Jews. 2. Because the Jews didn't accept their Messiah and crucified Him; many feel all the blessings and promises were forfeited to the church [replacement theology]. Hitler was a Catholic but that's another topic. 3. The Jews are blessed. Ever notice all the countries Jews occupied from the diaspora, the wealth they accumulated / generated and the economic influence and prosperity they brought with them. Got a problem, it's the Jews fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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