kenny2212 Posted April 9, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) A lot of people believe it's Sunday but I don't think it is. They think it's Sunday because - 1. The Lord Jesus resurrected on a Sunday. This is easy to counter - The Lord rose on a Sunday because he died on a Friday. Read Matthew 12:40. If he had died on a Monday he would have risen on a Wednesday. 2. Early church fathers met on a Sunday. It's humans that met, not the Lord. We shouldn't always take what humans do as if it's the Lord that did it. The Lord is not humans and humans are not the Lord. I lean towards Saturday(The Sabbath day)because it's the day the Lord owns. I know the Lord owns all days but it's Saturday the Lord is especial about. Isaiah 58:13(NIV) - If you keep your feet from breaking the SABBATH and from doing as you please on MY HOLY DAY, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the LORD’S HOLY DAY honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words...(emphasis mine). What do you guys think? If anyone thinks it could be one of the other days feel free to speak... Thanks for reading and God bless. Edited April 17, 2022 by kenny2212 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 9, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2022 It does not refer to Sunday or the day of Worship. It refers to the end times.The time of wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted April 9, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, missmuffet said: It does not refer to Sunday or the day of Worship. It refers to the end times.The time of wrath. Rev 1:10(GNB) - On the Lord's day the Spirit took control of me... John was in the Spirit during the end times? He was in the Spirit in the time of wrath? The Lord's day and the Day of the Lord are not synonymous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted April 10, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,103 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,548 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted April 10, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 12:28 PM, kenny2212 said: I lean towards Saturday(Sabbath day)because it's the day the Lord owns. I know the Lord owns all days but it's Saturday the Lord is especial about. Isaiah 58:13(NIV) - If you keep your feet from breaking the SABBATH and from doing as you please on MY HOLY DAY, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the LORD’S HOLY DAY honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words...(emphasis mine). While we are surely not going to definitively solve this question, I lean toward your position. Another relevant verse besides Isaiah 58:13 is Jesus' own words: Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted April 10, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.58 Reputation: 9,010 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Seems to me the Lord’s Day referenced in the NT and the Day of the Lord referenced throughout scripture are different things. The Day of the Lord involves both judgement and blessing. For instance referencing the destruction of Babylon. And of course at the Lord’s return. Judgement of the bad and blessing for His own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted April 12, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,744 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 308 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2022 Any day and every day of the week that one observes and focuses on the Lord I consider to be a Sabbath. Likewise, if one does not observe any day of the week in relation to the Lord, there is then no Sabbath with those individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie_ Posted April 12, 2022 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 6 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,786 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 717 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 2:28 PM, kenny2212 said: A lot of people believe it's Sunday but I don't think it is. They think it's Sunday because - 1. The Lord Jesus resurrected on a Sunday. This is easy to counter - The Lord rose on a Sunday because he died on a Friday. Read Matthew 12:40. If he had died on a Monday he would have risen on a Wednesday. 2. Early church fathers met on a Sunday. It's humans that met, not the Lord. We shouldn't always take what humans do as if it's the Lord that did it. The Lord is not humans and humans are not the Lord. I lean towards Saturday(Sabbath day)because it's the day the Lord owns. I know the Lord owns all days but it's Saturday the Lord is especial about. Isaiah 58:13(NIV) - If you keep your feet from breaking the SABBATH and from doing as you please on MY HOLY DAY, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the LORD’S HOLY DAY honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words...(emphasis mine). What do you guys think? If anyone thinks it could be one of the other days feel free to speak... Thanks for reading and God bless. You are hitting the nail on the head my brother, you must let the Holy Spirit guide you on this... Here are a few more texts to go over... Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. We see the same. Deuteronomy 5:12-13 12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. Again the same. Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. It was not 'Moses' sabbath. Leviticus 19:1-2 1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy. 3 Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God. Leviticus 19:30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. Leviticus 26:2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. Isaiah 56:4-6 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Ezekiel 20:12-13 12Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. Ezekiel 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. Ezek 20:19-24 19I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; 20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. 21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. 22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. 23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; 24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols. Ezekiel 22:8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths. Ezekiel 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. Ezekiel 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths. And in the New Testament, its repeated... Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Luke 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. The Lord claims the sabbath as His very own. It is a day, therefore it is literally, the Lord's day. This clear so how many times must the Lord call the sabbath His day to understand that there is only one day in the scriptures that would be referred to as the Lord's day? Other than the seventh day sabbath, the Lord's day can also refer to the day on which He will return to this earth. That is all. Sunday, or the first day of the week is never referred to as the Lord's day in the scriptures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almost6,000 Posted January 9, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/08/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2023 For me, The Lord's Day of Rev 1:10 is the 1,000-year 7th Day kingdom of The Lord. John is in the end times and is taken up at the beginning of The Lord's Day just as the Resurrection/Rapture of all believers happens at the beginning of the 1,000-year Lord's Day or Day of The Lord on Tishri-1 on His creation calendar. However, there is also a 24-hour great and dreadful Day of the Lord which is Tishri-10 when He and we return on the great day of Atonement on the 1st day of the great golden Yovel year of 6,001-AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,744 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 308 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 4/9/2022 at 3:53 PM, kenny2212 said: Rev 1:10(GNB) - On the Lord's day the Spirit took control of me... John was in the Spirit during the end times? He was in the Spirit in the time of wrath? The Lord's day and the Day of the Lord are not synonymous... Though I've read through this chapter many times, I too always thought the mention to John being in the Spirit on the Lords Day (Rev 1:10) to be a specific day of the week, like Saturday. I never gave it much thought. But, when I read through the chapter again today, I noticed verse 1:7 describes the Lord coming on the clouds of heaven. As such, John in verse 1:10 is then describing the day of the Lord. Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted January 11, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,929 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 4/10/2022 at 2:53 AM, kenny2212 said: Rev 1:10(GNB) - On the Lord's day the Spirit took control of me... John was in the Spirit during the end times? He was in the Spirit in the time of wrath? The Lord's day and the Day of the Lord are not synonymous... The Lord's Day is the Day God reveal the Book of Revelation to John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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