Catholicism vs Christianity

[Alive]

The Lord is not offended by honest sons who have incorrect doctrine.

 

[Starise]

4 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

They cannot be lost...

The have their errors like some others do...

But I do not know if you will agree or not with the scriptures that say nothing can take us away from Jesus Christ, nothing can snatch us out of him...

Do you thing their traditions can disqualified them from the righteousness of Jesus Christ which is imputed upon everyone who believes in Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God.

I agree with you but you have changed the direction of the discussion here from "which are the correct traditions" to 

"Traditions should not matter."

If a tradition says we should boil babies does it matter?

[Starise]

1 minute ago, Alive said:

The Lord is not offended by honest sons who have incorrect doctrine.

 

If they are unaware I  agree. 

[Starise]

Also let's separate incorrect doctrine from apostasy.

Any Spirit that adds to or takes away from the word for purposes of deception is apostate.

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, Starise said:

If they are unaware I  agree. 

There have been, over the centuries, far more sons of God with wrong doctrine than those who have correct. The same is true today.

Bad teachers and men of flesh who may not even be saved, do not limit His choices as to who are elect. Study church history.

:-)

[Anne2]

16 minutes ago, Starise said:

I am not plotting protestants against others. Whoever follows the Bible is a Bible follower. 

That seems over simplified because it is. It's the only pre requisite for those who follow the right traditions 

What are these traditions? We should look more at that context.

 

Ok what traditions are you speaking of?

[Anne2]

37 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

So much so, that some refuse that we are Judge for what we do now while we live and we are rewarded in this life by our Lord, if not why call him our Lord and our Shepherd.

Um, not following you here? What do you mean?

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Then it should be made clear that is the case. However, when what is Catholic is brought into ill repute, based upon what is Roman, is false witness. I am sure none here desire that.

They all have their liturgy, and the eucharistic assembly. Not all teach transubstantiation, celibacy, Icons or statues. etc. And the real presence is not just Catholic, Roman or otherwise. It is also among protestant assemblies. So have a beef with Rome? Have at it. Be Just in your claims.

I believe that faith is above all, faith in Jesus as the Son of God the Christ of God is above all and cannot be Judged....with this faith we have been given the gift of Jesus Christ righteousness upon believing, as we were yet sinners and the moment we believe in our heart. 

Nothing can remove that absolutely nothing, only if someone renounced his faith in Jesus Christ from his heart and without duress or under threat...

Traditions are for this Life...while we are in this Life...

We can talk about traditions but not to use them to judged the faith of Jesus Christ in the heart of anyone in any christian culture or denomination or Christian group or family.

Do not Judge faith in secrecy, rather seek to find the faith of Jesus Christ in people and support it, and encourage it and help it grow, inspite their traditions. 

Paul witness something that he use it later on to support the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 

He said I have come across a group of believers who were baptizing themselves as proxy for their dead relatives...in the name of Jesus Christ.  

That's what they did and they had their reasons and they would not change at that time...Paul did not Judge their faith in Jesus Christ, but he said those who did that they cannot denied the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 

Paul must have met some people who could not understand the resurrection of Jesus Christ...they could not see the Heavenly Heavenly Inheritance of Jesus Christ for him and for those who believe in him...

Perhaps they show him as another Abraham for the Gentiles and the Jews having an Inheritance in the underworld..

Edited May 21, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

28 minutes ago, Starise said:

I agree with you but you have changed the direction of the discussion here from "which are the correct traditions" to 

"Traditions should not matter."

If a tradition says we should boil babies does it matter?

Your last paragraph is out of order, it sounds out of our standards in our societies.

God has put guards in our society whether christian or secular or non Christian...thank him for that.

[Anne2]

6 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I believe that faith is above all, faith in Jesus as the Son of God the Christ of God is above all and cannot be Judged....with this faith we have been given the gift of Jesus Christ righteousness upon believing, as we were yet sinners and the moment we believe in our heart. 

Nothing can remove that absolutely nothing, only if someone renounced his faith in Jesus Christ from his heart and without duress or under threat...

Traditions are for this Life...while we are in this Life...

We can talk about transitions but not to use them to judged the faith of Jesus Christ in the heart of anyone in any christian culture or denomination or Christian group or family.

Do not Judge faith in secrecy, rather seek to find the faith of Jesus Christ in people and support it, and encourage it and help it grow, inspite their traditions. 

Paul witness something that he use it later on to support the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 

He said I have come across a group of believers who were baptizing themselves as proxy for their dead relatives...in the name of Jesus Christ.  

That's what they did and they had their reasons and they would not change at that time...Paul did not Judge their faith in Jesus Christ, but he said those who did that they cannot denied the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 

Paul must have met some people who could not understand the resurrection of Jesus Christ...they could not see the Heavenly Heavenly Inheritance of Jesus Christ for him and for those who believe in him...

Perhaps they show him as another Abraham for the Gentiles and the Jews having an Inheritance in the underworld..

Thank you for this. Wonderful post. My problem is  finding fellowship in a body that does not require me to believe something I can't. We all need to be sure and sincere in our own mind you know? So I am somewhat stuck right now. I just keep seeking and praying about it. Things will work out for whatever happens.