Who is Resurrected, and When?

[DeighAnn]

9 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Their souls are with Jesus, but their bodies are not, being in the earth. These two elements must be reunited and transfigured together, just as they were with Jesus.

You say their SOULS are, but their bodies are not.  WE HAVE 2 BODIES.  DISCUSS THEM BOTH PLEASE so I can know what one you are speaking to.  Actually I think everyone should have to put forth which one is doing what when.   

MY BELIEF is super simple  EVERY SINGLE SOULS who dies LEAVES this natural body.  

If you go to heaven you go there in your Spiritual body/HEAVENLY/CELESTIAL and now immortality has been given to you

If you go to HELL, you go there in your spiritual body/heavenly/celestial  BUT you remain MORTAL (still face 2nd death), only to know at the GWTJ if you were raised as one of the just or the unjust.  

So one body for this realm and another for the next.  



I am saying not only the souls of the saved have left the "As in Adam all die" body, the NATURAL BODY, 

but spirit/soul the 'leaving the natural body' produces a bare grain, and that is given a body, BECOMING THE SPRITUAL BODY, which HAS ALSO LEFT the natural body, now just a carcass, and risen to heaven, the living being still being a being living on.



AND I put forth as PROOF for my claims THE WORDS OF GOD.  

IF YOU are saying these words ARE NOT GODS TRUTH, OR are NOT what GOD MEANT, or aren't saying what they say when read as written, 

Please put forth what ever ones of HIS WORDS you are using to counter act them and give an explanation to these...
 

44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
 

16For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.



1 John 3
1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

 Greek order
2Beloved, now children of God are we and not yet has been revealed what we will be. We know that when He appears, like Him we will be for we will see Him as He is

3568. nun
Strong's Concordance
nun: now, the present
Original Word: νῦν
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: nun
Phonetic Spelling: (noon)
Definition: now, the present
Usage: adv. (a) of time: just now, even now; just at hand, immediately, (b) of logical connection: now then, (c) in commands and appeals: at this instant.
HELPS Word-studies
3568 nýn (an adverb) – now, as the logical result of what precedes; now, in light of what has gone before.

 

Romans 8
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

 

Galatians 4

1Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

2But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

3Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Colo 3:4
1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.


9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Rev 7
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.


9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


NOTICE how everything is DIFFERENT from the 2nd Advent. 

5319. phaneroó 
Strong's Concordance
phaneroó: to make visible, make clear
Original Word: φανερόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: phaneroó
Phonetic Spelling: (fan-er-o'-o)
Definition: to make visible, make clear
Usage: I make clear (visible, manifest), make known.
HELPS Word-studies
5319 phaneróō (from 5457 /phṓs, "light") – properly, illumine, make manifest (visible); (figuratively) make plain, in open view; to become apparent ("graspable").

5319 /phaneróō ("become manifest") in 1 Jn 3:2

1 Jn 3:2: "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that if (Gk ean) He becomes manifest (5319 /phaneróō), we will be like Him, because (hoti) we will see Him just as (Gk kathōs) He is."

Englishman's Concordance
Mark 4:22 V-ASP-3S
GRK: μὴ ἵνα φανερωθῇ οὐδὲ ἐγένετο
NAS: except to be revealed; nor
KJV: not be manifested; neither
INT: not that it should be made mainfest nor has taken place
Mark 16:12 V-AIP-3S
GRK: αὐτῶν περιπατοῦσιν ἐφανερώθη ἐν ἑτέρᾳ
NAS: After that, He appeared in a different
KJV: After that he appeared in another
INT: them as they walked he appeared in another

Mark 16:14 V-AIP-3S
GRK: τοῖς ἕνδεκα ἐφανερώθη καὶ ὠνείδισεν
NAS: Afterward He appeared to the eleven
KJV: Afterward he appeared unto the eleven
INT: to the eleven he appeared and rebuked

John 1:31 V-ASP-3S
GRK: ἀλλ' ἵνα φανερωθῇ τῷ Ἰσραὴλ
NAS: Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel,
KJV: that he should be made manifest to Israel,
INT: but that he might appear to Israel

John 2:11 V-AIA-3S
GRK: Γαλιλαίας καὶ ἐφανέρωσεν τὴν δόξαν
NAS: of Galilee, and manifested His glory,
KJV: and manifested forth his
INT: of Galilee and revealed the glory

John 3:21 V-ASP-3S
GRK: φῶς ἵνα φανερωθῇ αὐτοῦ τὰ
NAS: that his deeds may be manifested as having been
KJV: deeds may be made manifest, that
INT: light that might appear his

John 7:4 V-AMA-2S
GRK: ταῦτα ποιεῖς φανέρωσον σεαυτὸν τῷ
NAS: these things, show Yourself
KJV: these things, shew thyself
INT: these things you do show yourself to the

John 9:3 V-ASP-3S
GRK: ἀλλ' ἵνα φανερωθῇ τὰ ἔργα
NAS: of God might be displayed in him.
KJV: of God should be made manifest in
INT: but that should appear the works

John 17:6 V-AIA-1S
GRK: Ἐφανέρωσά σου τὸ
NAS: I have manifested Your name
KJV: I have manifested thy name
INT: I revealed your

John 21:1 V-AIA-3S
GRK: ΜΕΤΑ ΤΑΥΤΑ ἐφανέρωσεν ἑαυτὸν πάλιν
NAS: Jesus manifested Himself
KJV: Jesus shewed himself
INT: After these things revealed himself again

John 21:1 V-AIA-3S
GRK: τῆς Τιβεριάδος ἐφανέρωσεν δὲ οὕτως
NAS: of Tiberias, and He manifested [Himself] in this way.
KJV: and on this wise shewed he [himself].
INT: of Tiberias he revealed [himself] moreover thus

John 21:14 V-AIP-3S
GRK: ἤδη τρίτον ἐφανερώθη Ἰησοῦς τοῖς
NAS: that Jesus was manifested to the disciples,
KJV: that Jesus shewed himself to his
INT: now the third time was revealed Jesus the

Romans 1:19 V-AIA-3S
GRK: γὰρ αὐτοῖς ἐφανέρωσεν
NAS: them; for God made it evident to them.
KJV: for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
INT: indeed to them revealed [it]

Romans 3:21 V-RIM/P-3S
GRK: δικαιοσύνη θεοῦ πεφανέρωται μαρτυρουμένη ὑπὸ
NAS: of God has been manifested, being witnessed
KJV: the law is manifested, being witnessed
INT: [the] righteousness of God has been revealed being borne witness to by

Romans 16:26 V-APP-GMS
GRK: φανερωθέντος δὲ νῦν
NAS: but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures
KJV: But now is made manifest, and by
INT: having been made manifest moreover now

1 Corinthians 4:5 V-FIA-3S
GRK: σκότους καὶ φανερώσει τὰς βουλὰς
NAS: in the darkness and disclose the motives
KJV: and will make manifest the counsels
INT: of darkness and will make manifest the motives

2 Corinthians 2:14 V-PPA-DMS
GRK: γνώσεως αὐτοῦ φανεροῦντι δι' ἡμῶν
NAS: in Christ, and manifests through
KJV: and maketh manifest the savour
INT: knowledge of him makes manifest through us

2 Corinthians 3:3 V-PPM/P-NMP
GRK: φανερούμενοι ὅτι ἐστὲ
NAS: being manifested that you are a letter
KJV: [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to
INT: being revealed that you are

2 Corinthians 4:10 V-ASP-3S
GRK: σώματι ἡμῶν φανερωθῇ
NAS: also may be manifested in our body.
KJV: of Jesus might be made manifest in
INT: body of us might appear

2 Corinthians 4:11 V-ASP-3S
GRK: τοῦ Ἰησοῦ φανερωθῇ ἐν τῇ
NAS: also may be manifested in our mortal
KJV: of Jesus might be made manifest in
INT: of Jesus might appear in the

2 Corinthians 5:10 V-ANP
GRK: πάντας ἡμᾶς φανερωθῆναι δεῖ ἔμπροσθεν
NAS: all appear before
KJV: all appear before
INT: all we be revealed must before

2 Corinthians 5:11 V-RIM/P-1P
GRK: θεῷ δὲ πεφανερώμεθα ἐλπίζω δὲ
NAS: men, but we are made manifest
KJV: but we are made manifest unto God;
INT: to god moreover we have been revealed I hope moreover

2 Corinthians 5:11 V-RNM/P
GRK: συνειδήσεσιν ὑμῶν πεφανερῶσθαι
NAS: but we are made manifest to God;
KJV: I trust also are made manifest in your
INT: consciences of you to have been revealed

2 Corinthians 7:12 V-ANP
GRK: ἕνεκεν τοῦ φανερωθῆναι τὴν σπουδὴν
NAS: on our behalf might be made known to you in the sight
KJV: of God might appear unto
INT: for the sake of being revealed the earnestness

2 Corinthians 11:6 V-APA-NMP
GRK: ἐν παντὶ φανερώσαντες ἐν πᾶσιν
NAS: way we have made [this] evident to you in all things.
KJV: we have been throughly made manifest among
INT: in every [way] having made manifest in all things

Strong's Greek 5319
49 Occurrences


 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Your claim is "False"

Death is swallowed up in victory at the second coming and resurrection seen below, not 1,000 after your man made claim of a Millennium on this earth 

Scripture below clearly teaches at the return of Jesus Christ the resurrection takes place, mortal becomes immortal, "Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory" (The End)

You're in rebellion to God's clear words of truth before your eyes "Why"?

Your claim is "False"

When Jesus Christ Returns (Then Cometh The End) when mortal becomes immortal, as death is swallowed up in victory, No Millennial Kingdom On Earth Following As you falsely continue to Claim, It's That Simple

You don't want to see "The Last Enemy Death Destroyed" at the resurrection below, because you have a man made millennial kingdom on earth to falsely promote, with immortal believers running about with dying human mortals, as Jesus sits on a throne being chief funeral director, More Big Smiles!

How long will you deny the simple truth before your eyes, as you continue to teach contrary to scripture presented again and again?

Jesus Is The Lord

1 Corinthians 15:23-26 & 51-54KJV
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Hello @truth7t7

the saying bellow has to do with Jesus Christ...to begin with and then we can apply it to those who believe in him...to us the believers it is quite relevant........

 

O' Death where is your sting...the strength of Death is the sin of anyone...

O"Hades where is your victory..

***we need to sort out things we must first distinguish to whom it may apply and to whom it may not...

 Jesus was the only one who had the Life...the last man with the Life...if Jesus had disobeyed God in what God was asking him to do ...like healing the Man on the Sabbath day in the Synagogue then what? It will happen to him the same thing that it had happened to Adam...Adam as he was before his disobedience he could die physically from an accident that it could cause him lost of blood...and he could have died from some other reasons and even from falling from a high place...it was not another man in the Garden without a wife and would have kill Adam to take his wife....no there was... but that does not mean that Adam could not have died because he could...he had flesh and blood...he could have die from a wound and the lost of blood...

Back to Jesus...the Devil tried in many  occasions and in different ways to make Jesus fall from his right standing with God by tricking him to commit a disobedience towards God...which would have resulted in him to loose his Life not his physical Life but his Life who was the same as God's it is exactly as it Happened....when Jesus died the Physical death he was still in the Life...he was not stung by the sting of Death...

So here is the saying fulfilled...

O' death where is your sting

...examining Jesus there was no sting of Death on him.

Jesus said the Devil is coming or Death is coming but he has nothing on me...and I know that because the Father has told me so...

O' Hades where is thy power..

Death and Hades both were defeated in Jesus Christ...

This is not about the physical death because we established earlier that Adam could have died in the Garden before his disobedience if he had an accident and bleed to death physical due the loss of blood...

This is about what Jesus Christ said: "I have the Keys of Death and Hades " in revelation 1.

When Cain murder Abel he committed a sin the kind of sin that cause a separation between him and God...this the kind of death between man and God...in the situation of Cain he was in the Inheritance of the Death-and Hades duo...inherited from his Father Adam he was born in that Inheritance without fault of his own...which Inheritance was upon all people till Abraham to whom God gave conditional immunity and to his chosen children by setting them Apart from the rest of the world in Life and in their physical death..till the coming death of Jesus Christ and till the Gospel would be preached to them...to give them the chance to be included in Jesus Christ...

The rest of the world was given by DEFAULT to Death who gave them to the God of the dead Hades.

In revelation Jesus Christ said when Death came to people their physical death.

Death the spiritual death took them and gave them to Hades....by DEFAULT conditionally till the death of Jesus Christ when everyone was set free to hear the Gospel from Jesus Christ...and be included in Jesus Christ...beginning from that time Jesus began to Judge the dead all of them according to their faith in him according to the Gospel he preach to them those who believe were included in Jesus Christ....

 

[farouk]

3 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

You say their SOULS are, but their bodies are not.  WE HAVE 2 BODIES.  DISCUSS THEM BOTH PLEASE so I can know what one you are speaking to.  Actually I think everyone should have to put forth which one is doing what when.   

MY BELIEF is super simple  EVERY SINGLE SOULS who dies LEAVES this natural body.  

If you go to heaven you go there in your Spiritual body/HEAVENLY/CELESTIAL and now immortality has been given to you

If you go to HELL, you go there in your spiritual body/heavenly/celestial  BUT you remain MORTAL (still face 2nd death), only to know at the GWTJ if you were raised as one of the just or the unjust.  

So one body for this realm and another for the next.  



I am saying not only the souls of the saved have left the "As in Adam all die" body, the NATURAL BODY, 

but spirit/soul the 'leaving the natural body' produces a bare grain, and that is given a body, BECOMING THE SPRITUAL BODY, which HAS ALSO LEFT the natural body, now just a carcass, and risen to heaven, the living being still being a being living on.



AND I put forth as PROOF for my claims THE WORDS OF GOD.  

IF YOU are saying these words ARE NOT GODS TRUTH, OR are NOT what GOD MEANT, or aren't saying what they say when read as written, 

Please put forth what ever ones of HIS WORDS you are using to counter act them and give an explanation to these...
 

44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
 

16For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.



1 John 3
1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

 Greek order
2Beloved, now children of God are we and not yet has been revealed what we will be. We know that when He appears, like Him we will be for we will see Him as He is

3568. nun
Strong's Concordance
nun: now, the present
Original Word: νῦν
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: nun
Phonetic Spelling: (noon)
Definition: now, the present
Usage: adv. (a) of time: just now, even now; just at hand, immediately, (b) of logical connection: now then, (c) in commands and appeals: at this instant.
HELPS Word-studies
3568 nýn (an adverb) – now, as the logical result of what precedes; now, in light of what has gone before.

 

Romans 8
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

 

Galatians 4

1Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

2But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

3Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Colo 3:4
1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.


9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Rev 7
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.


9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


NOTICE how everything is DIFFERENT from the 2nd Advent. 

5319. phaneroó 
Strong's Concordance
phaneroó: to make visible, make clear
Original Word: φανερόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: phaneroó
Phonetic Spelling: (fan-er-o'-o)
Definition: to make visible, make clear
Usage: I make clear (visible, manifest), make known.
HELPS Word-studies
5319 phaneróō (from 5457 /phṓs, "light") – properly, illumine, make manifest (visible); (figuratively) make plain, in open view; to become apparent ("graspable").

5319 /phaneróō ("become manifest") in 1 Jn 3:2

1 Jn 3:2: "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that if (Gk ean) He becomes manifest (5319 /phaneróō), we will be like Him, because (hoti) we will see Him just as (Gk kathōs) He is."

Englishman's Concordance
Mark 4:22 V-ASP-3S
GRK: μὴ ἵνα φανερωθῇ οὐδὲ ἐγένετο
NAS: except to be revealed; nor
KJV: not be manifested; neither
INT: not that it should be made mainfest nor has taken place
Mark 16:12 V-AIP-3S
GRK: αὐτῶν περιπατοῦσιν ἐφανερώθη ἐν ἑτέρᾳ
NAS: After that, He appeared in a different
KJV: After that he appeared in another
INT: them as they walked he appeared in another

Mark 16:14 V-AIP-3S
GRK: τοῖς ἕνδεκα ἐφανερώθη καὶ ὠνείδισεν
NAS: Afterward He appeared to the eleven
KJV: Afterward he appeared unto the eleven
INT: to the eleven he appeared and rebuked

John 1:31 V-ASP-3S
GRK: ἀλλ' ἵνα φανερωθῇ τῷ Ἰσραὴλ
NAS: Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel,
KJV: that he should be made manifest to Israel,
INT: but that he might appear to Israel

John 2:11 V-AIA-3S
GRK: Γαλιλαίας καὶ ἐφανέρωσεν τὴν δόξαν
NAS: of Galilee, and manifested His glory,
KJV: and manifested forth his
INT: of Galilee and revealed the glory

John 3:21 V-ASP-3S
GRK: φῶς ἵνα φανερωθῇ αὐτοῦ τὰ
NAS: that his deeds may be manifested as having been
KJV: deeds may be made manifest, that
INT: light that might appear his

John 7:4 V-AMA-2S
GRK: ταῦτα ποιεῖς φανέρωσον σεαυτὸν τῷ
NAS: these things, show Yourself
KJV: these things, shew thyself
INT: these things you do show yourself to the

John 9:3 V-ASP-3S
GRK: ἀλλ' ἵνα φανερωθῇ τὰ ἔργα
NAS: of God might be displayed in him.
KJV: of God should be made manifest in
INT: but that should appear the works

John 17:6 V-AIA-1S
GRK: Ἐφανέρωσά σου τὸ
NAS: I have manifested Your name
KJV: I have manifested thy name
INT: I revealed your

John 21:1 V-AIA-3S
GRK: ΜΕΤΑ ΤΑΥΤΑ ἐφανέρωσεν ἑαυτὸν πάλιν
NAS: Jesus manifested Himself
KJV: Jesus shewed himself
INT: After these things revealed himself again

John 21:1 V-AIA-3S
GRK: τῆς Τιβεριάδος ἐφανέρωσεν δὲ οὕτως
NAS: of Tiberias, and He manifested [Himself] in this way.
KJV: and on this wise shewed he [himself].
INT: of Tiberias he revealed [himself] moreover thus

John 21:14 V-AIP-3S
GRK: ἤδη τρίτον ἐφανερώθη Ἰησοῦς τοῖς
NAS: that Jesus was manifested to the disciples,
KJV: that Jesus shewed himself to his
INT: now the third time was revealed Jesus the

Romans 1:19 V-AIA-3S
GRK: γὰρ αὐτοῖς ἐφανέρωσεν
NAS: them; for God made it evident to them.
KJV: for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
INT: indeed to them revealed [it]

Romans 3:21 V-RIM/P-3S
GRK: δικαιοσύνη θεοῦ πεφανέρωται μαρτυρουμένη ὑπὸ
NAS: of God has been manifested, being witnessed
KJV: the law is manifested, being witnessed
INT: [the] righteousness of God has been revealed being borne witness to by

Romans 16:26 V-APP-GMS
GRK: φανερωθέντος δὲ νῦν
NAS: but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures
KJV: But now is made manifest, and by
INT: having been made manifest moreover now

1 Corinthians 4:5 V-FIA-3S
GRK: σκότους καὶ φανερώσει τὰς βουλὰς
NAS: in the darkness and disclose the motives
KJV: and will make manifest the counsels
INT: of darkness and will make manifest the motives

2 Corinthians 2:14 V-PPA-DMS
GRK: γνώσεως αὐτοῦ φανεροῦντι δι' ἡμῶν
NAS: in Christ, and manifests through
KJV: and maketh manifest the savour
INT: knowledge of him makes manifest through us

2 Corinthians 3:3 V-PPM/P-NMP
GRK: φανερούμενοι ὅτι ἐστὲ
NAS: being manifested that you are a letter
KJV: [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to
INT: being revealed that you are

2 Corinthians 4:10 V-ASP-3S
GRK: σώματι ἡμῶν φανερωθῇ
NAS: also may be manifested in our body.
KJV: of Jesus might be made manifest in
INT: body of us might appear

2 Corinthians 4:11 V-ASP-3S
GRK: τοῦ Ἰησοῦ φανερωθῇ ἐν τῇ
NAS: also may be manifested in our mortal
KJV: of Jesus might be made manifest in
INT: of Jesus might appear in the

2 Corinthians 5:10 V-ANP
GRK: πάντας ἡμᾶς φανερωθῆναι δεῖ ἔμπροσθεν
NAS: all appear before
KJV: all appear before
INT: all we be revealed must before

2 Corinthians 5:11 V-RIM/P-1P
GRK: θεῷ δὲ πεφανερώμεθα ἐλπίζω δὲ
NAS: men, but we are made manifest
KJV: but we are made manifest unto God;
INT: to god moreover we have been revealed I hope moreover

2 Corinthians 5:11 V-RNM/P
GRK: συνειδήσεσιν ὑμῶν πεφανερῶσθαι
NAS: but we are made manifest to God;
KJV: I trust also are made manifest in your
INT: consciences of you to have been revealed

2 Corinthians 7:12 V-ANP
GRK: ἕνεκεν τοῦ φανερωθῆναι τὴν σπουδὴν
NAS: on our behalf might be made known to you in the sight
KJV: of God might appear unto
INT: for the sake of being revealed the earnestness

2 Corinthians 11:6 V-APA-NMP
GRK: ἐν παντὶ φανερώσαντες ἐν πᾶσιν
NAS: way we have made [this] evident to you in all things.
KJV: we have been throughly made manifest among
INT: in every [way] having made manifest in all things

Strong's Greek 5319
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@DeighAnn Great verses there, quoted from 1 Cor. 15: often read at the funerals of believers...........

[WilliamL]

11 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

You say their SOULS are, but their bodies are not.  WE HAVE 2 BODIES.  DISCUSS THEM BOTH PLEASE so I can know what one you are speaking to. 

Your answer is found here in fuller format --

-- from which the following is an excerpt:

 

Soul-Garments, Death, and Resurrection

When the physical body dies, its soul becomes separated from its dwelling. The carnal soul soon descends to its kind in Hades/Hell. The righteous soul ascends to its kind in heaven, where it is “given a white robe” (Rev. 6:11) derived from that soulʼs “righteous acts” while on earth:

Revelation 3:5 “The one overcoming shall be clothed in white garments… 18 I counsel you to buy from Me…white garments, that you may be clothed, and the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed…” 19:8 …the fine linen [garment] is the righteous acts of the saints. 1 Peter 5:5 …be clothed with humility…

2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if the earthly house [= physical body] of our tabernacle [= soul] is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this* [soul-tabernacle] we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed having been clothed we shall not be found naked… 4 …but…that mortality may be swallowed up by life. * “This”/toutō is neuter, agreeing with verse 1ʼs tabernacle, not house.

Up until the End of the Age, the garments of the souls of the dead are comprised solely of either a heavenly or a hellish substance. These souls are therefore restricted to their respective heavenly and hellish realms. At the resurrection of the dead, however, the material (this earthly realmʼs) body will be raised and be restored to the souls of the dead, just as Jesusʼ body was to Him:

Luke 24:39 [After His resurrection, Jesus appeared to His disciples and said,] “Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”

Job 19:25 …I know that my Redeemer lives, and afterward He shall arise above the dust; 26 and after my skin they have stricken off of this body, yet from my flesh I shall behold God.

1 John 3:2 …we know that when He shines forth/is manifested, we shall be like Him…

When the great resurrection of the dead takes place, they will become physically re-embodied souls of all types of people:

Daniel 12:2 “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall be caused to awaken, some to everlasting life, and some to shame, to everlasting contempt.” (For the latter, see Isaiah 66:24 and Micah 7:8-10.)

John 5:28 “…an hour comes in which all the ones in the graves will hear His [the Sonʼs] voice 29 and come forth: the ones having done good things to the resurrection of life, and the ones having done evil things to the resurrection of condemnation.”

Because many different kinds of souls will be restored to their bodies, they will appear in all kinds of bodily garments, for each soulʼs bodily form will henceforward conform to its thoughts and deeds. Ones having had a sexually lustful nature will therefore appear exposed and naked, and be shamed. Similarly, others will appear bestial in various ways; and so on.

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” … 38 God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

Daniel 12:3 “But the ones having been intelligent/prudent [המשכלים] shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and the ones having turned many to righteousness shall shine like the stars, forever and ever.”

The Tabernacles name for this seven-day feast represents the bodily garments provided to the souls at the time of the resurrection of the dead – both for the dead and for “we [of Christ] who are alive, the ones remaining to the Coming/Presence of the Lord…” 1 Thes. 4:15

1 Corinthians 15:51 …We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. 52 …at the Last Trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we [the living] shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal put on immortality.

[DeighAnn]

2 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

At the resurrection of the dead, however, the material (this earthly realmʼs) body will be raised and be restored to the souls of the dead, just as Jesusʼ body was to Him:

But that's a FALSE DOCTRINE.,... if you believe what is written to which there can be no dispute

Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

  

1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

If you don't have the time or want to write out how what I put forth is different that what you 'believe' what is written to say, then I guess we are done.  

[Uriah]

4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Bellow is a quote from Jesus in Mathew 19:28 and in Luke 22: 28-30

I quoted Rev 20:4 where, "authority to judge" is given. And that is where I pointed out that twelve apostles should be judging AT HTAT TIME. But certain parameters were given on that verse, that they had to be martyrs or trib saints, John is neither. And I said that it makes John ineligible. The rest of the dead do not rise until the 1,000 yrs are past. So I suppose I could restate other scriptures that point out contrasting evidence, but if even one man (John) is out of place and its Ok, what good am I going to do? Eventually someone will explain it. What do you say? Poor John.

[Your closest friendnt]

14 hours ago, Selah7 said:

Yes, when our fleshly bodies die, we immediately go to be with the Lord.

So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. For we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. Therefore we make it our aim, whether present or absent, to be well pleasing to Him.

- 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 

Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, Or the golden bowl is broken, Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, Or the wheel broken at the well. Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

- Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

 

This is not from God...

If it was truth we do not need Jesus and according to this writer whom you are holding to be Jesus in times past...

Everyone is going to God or returned to God and then what? Everyone who dies returns to God...whether he believes or not ....saying that Abraham returned to God...at his death.  

[Your closest friendnt]

12 minutes ago, Uriah said:

I quoted Rev 20:4 where, "authority to judge" is given. And that is where I pointed out that twelve apostles should be judging AT HTAT TIME. But certain parameters were given on that verse, that they had to be martyrs or trib saints, John is neither. And I said that it makes John ineligible. The rest of the dead do not rise until the 1,000 yrs are past. So I suppose I could restate other scriptures that point out contrasting evidence, but if even one man (John) is out of place and its Ok, what good am I going to do? Eventually someone will explain it. What do you say? Poor John.

Revelation 20:4 is saying two different stories..

One of them is described in lines one to three and it says:

I Saw thrones, (no further description or comment in this verse)

and they sat upon them, (no further Identification who are they who sat upon them)

and Judgment was given to them...(no further comments to let us know what is this all about...what kind of Judgment and whom they were judged)

The second part from line four it is about something unrelated to what it was said to the first three lines..

It is about those who ....as described....(and it says about those who were dead and about their souls and he described them for beingin their souls after they had died) and then it says: and they lived and rein with Christ one thousand years...in the last three lines. 

Revelation 20:4

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:

and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;

and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

[Montana Marv]

Look at this;

Once death occurs there is separation, the soul/spirit leaves and the physical body stays.  Cremation urns have held human remains for years.  Observing an open casket funeral whether one day or one month following death, the body stays.  They all return to dust.  Only 2 choices for the soul/spirit; the Just go to be with the Lord since the ascension.  The Unjust go to Hades/Sheol. (the story of the Rich man).  Yet the beggar,  Lazarus went to Paradise.  No avenue to Heaven, for Christ had not yet ascended on High and led captives in His train (those in Paradise).  For the N.T.  Believer "to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord".

A resurrection is the reuniting of the soul/spirit with its host body.

There are two types of Resurrections, one for the Just and the other for the Unjust.

Christ being the first fruit for the Just.  Then the Beast and False Prophet being the first fruits for the Unjust being thrown alive into the Lake of Fire where all the unjust will reside.

We know that after Satan is released after the 1000 years, he is destroyed and goes to the Lake of Fire; then the GWT Judgment.  The Unjust are resurrected, soul/spirit and their host bodies reunited and thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Now the Big Debate....  How many resurrections for the Just are there?  And when do each happen.  I see at least 4 separate resurrections for the Just, meaning different groups of Saints go into the Kingdom (Soul/Spirit and Host Body reunited) at different times.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Keras]

9 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 The MERE FACT that John noted martyrs identifies that believers will be resurrected.  Not ONLY martyrs, but "those who belong to Him".

Those GT martyrs will be raised, the rest of the Christians and everyone, must wait for the GWT Judgment, Rev 20:11-15

You have been taught and believe the false idea of a general resurrection when Jesus Returns. 

It isn't a critical matter, but having believed one error, what else do you have wrong?