Are you saved but believe you would have been damned had you died before you were saved?

[Not of the World]

I think we've all seen stories of, for example, former gang members who accepted Christ and repented from their former ways.  Some believe, however, that that same gang member would have been condemned if they had died before they were saved.  I don't think it works like that.  

We see countless examples of young gang members, who really never had a chance, being slaughtered in gang wars at the ripe old age of 17.  I doubt that Jesus permits them to be lost.  

[Selah7]

Hey @Not of the World  Your question is, “Are you saved but believe you would have been damned had you died before you were saved”

No, because there is no way that I, as one who was chosen before the foundation of the world, would ever reject His call.  The scenario that you propose is not possible.  A chosen individual can never be dammed.  Why? because they were chosen! and they know it as soon as they here Jesus say, “Come to Me.”  They immediately recognize their Shepherd’s voice and follow Him.   -Selah 

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

- John 10:27-28 (NKJV)

[Not of the World]

12 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

No, because there is no way that I, as one who was chosen before the foundation of the world, would ever reject His call.  The scenario that you propose is not possible.  A chosen individual can never be dammed.  Why? because they were chosen! and they know it as soon as they here Jesus say, “Come to Me.”  They immediately recognize their Shepherd’s voice and follow Him.   -Selah

Yes, I believe that too.  Thanks for responding!  

[Jayne]

28 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

We see countless examples of young gang members, who really never had a chance, being slaughtered in gang wars at the ripe old age of 17.  I doubt that Jesus permits them to be lost.  

What do you all reformed people think of Cain and the rich young ruler?

The Bible says that Jesus loved the rich young ruler.  Yet he walked away from Jesus.

The Bible says that God explained to Cain what to do to make himself acceptable to God.  A very thorough explanation.  Yet Cain walked away.

[Not of the World]

1 minute ago, Jayne said:

What do you all reformed people think...

I'm sorry.  I don't know what "reformed people" means.  

[Not of the World]

3 minutes ago, Jayne said:

he Bible says that Jesus loved the rich young ruler.  Yet he walked away from Jesus.

It's not easy for wealthy people to walk away from their wealth.  I suspect many poor followers of Christ might not be such close followers if they suddenly came into a lot of wealth.  

[Not of the World]

4 minutes ago, Jayne said:

The Bible says that God explained to Cain what to do to make himself acceptable to God.  A very thorough explanation.  Yet Cain walked away.

Yes, very sad.  

[Jayne]

13 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

I'm sorry.  I don't know what "reformed people" means.  

I'm sorry.  It's another word for Calvinist.

T - Total depravity - All have sinned. None are righteous. [I believe this.  All mean all.  None means none.]

U - Unconditional election - God only wants some people to be saved.  The others - he hates.  They were created in the womb hated,  live hated, and will die and go to hell hated.  [I do not believe this.  However, there will be people in hell.] 

L - Limited atonement - Jesus only died for some people.  [The Bible says clearly otherwise.  That does not mean all people will be saved.]

I - Irresistible grace - Once God calls one of his chosen to be saved, they do not have the capacity to say no.  [Cain and the rich young ruler say otherwise.]

P - Perseverance of the Saints  - Once Saved Always Saved [I'm down with this - it's Biblical.]

[Selah7]

3 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I'm sorry.  It's another word for Calvinist.

T - Total depravity - All have sinned. None are righteous. [I believe this.  All mean all.  None means none.]

U - Unconditional election - God only wants some people to be saved.  The others - he hates.  They were created in the womb hated,  live hated, and will die and go to hell hated.  [I do not believe this.  However, there will be people in hell.] 

L - Limited atonement - Jesus only died for some people.  [The Bible says clearly otherwise.  That does not mean all people will be saved.]

I - Irresistible grace - Once God calls one of his chosen to be saved, they do not have the capacity to say no.  [Cain and the rich young ruler say otherwise.]

P - Perseverance of the Saints  - Once Saved Always Saved [I'm down with this - it's Biblical.]

I’m a Christian who believes the Bible.  No man-made labels for me. 

[Not of the World]

2 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I'm sorry.  It's another word for Calvinist.

I don't know what that is either.  I'm a simple man.  I just try to follow Jesus.