Old Timer Posted December 9, 2005 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hello, Trinity , I see you have not made a post of substance since the end of October and have not addressed any of the more recent statements or questions I proposed. I gather you are busy and now with Christmas and the holidays that situation will probably not change. I will therefore consider this debate to have come to end. Thank you for participating. My best, Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted December 9, 2005 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Sailors in a Raft by Art God created Time. He sits on His Throne in heaven above it. Unlike us He is not confined to it or by it. Time is a river constantly flowing. We are sailors in a raft carried by the current of Time in one direction toward one destination. We do not know what lies ahead on the river, what is around the next bend. Perhaps it will be a pool of calm waters or perhaps a series of rapids or even a dreadful waterfall. We know where the river has taken us for we can look back on our past journey but we cannot look far ahead down the river. We do not know how long the river is. God, from His position above the river, sees the entire length of the river. He knows its beginning and its end. He can step into the river at any place and change its course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted December 24, 2005 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted December 24, 2005 This debate appears concluded. I will give a brief summary of my position that the dead are asleep, resting, and will awake when the Lord returns, resurrects the dead, and judges and rewards the saints. There are no Bible verses that say we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted January 8, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Lazarus and the Rich Man The story of Lazarus and the rich man is often used as an example to show that the good go to heaven and the evil to hell. It is found in Luke chapter 16: 19-31. Those who claim this story is an actual event and not a parable must explain various elements in the narrative that are obviously symbolic; the Bosom of Abraham, crumbs of the rich man's table, a drop of water, the great gulf. Further, it is obvious that both Lazarus and the rich man have been judged and have resurrected bodies. Both these events will happen when Christ returns, raises and judges the dead. So if it is an actual event then it is a prophesy of a future event. However, it is a parable. And we shall discover exactly the meaning of the parable. Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: What and where is the Bosom of Abraham? Both the rich man and Lazarus died, verse 22. Lazarus was taken to the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Posted January 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,244 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 63 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2006 I am really sorry i couldn't haven't been a participant as i wanted to, i didn't have time to get on much meaning not enough time to research stuff... good debatin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted January 9, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Trinity, thank you for engaging in this debate. I believe it was cordial and conducted in a Christian-like manner. I am sorry you do not have the time to continue. My offer to debate any member of Worthy Boards on this topic is still open. If anyone would like to assume Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted April 18, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) Anyone wishing to continue this debate on soul sleep please contact the moderator and/or me. Edited August 31, 2006 by Old Timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted July 26, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.58 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2007 It would appear that this debate has run its course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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