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There are three different references in Isaiah to the day of the Lord;

Isa 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isa 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

There are three references to the day of vengeance.

There is a reference to a year of recompences, the acceptable year of the Lord, and the year of my redeemed.

I'm curious about what else is out there.

 

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You talking about Isaiah only or other parts of scripture as well?

Luke 21

 

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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9 hours ago, rdclmn72 said:

There are three different references in Isaiah to the day of the Lord;

Isa 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isa 63:4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

There are three references to the day of vengeance.

There is a reference to a year of recompences, the acceptable year of the Lord, and the year of my redeemed.

I'm curious about what else is out there.

 

Some prophets had a dedicated theme, like the judgment of Nineveh or Edom. But mostly God was speaking to Israel about Israel in Hebrew. The exception is Daniel Chapters 2 to 7 where Jehovah talks to the Nations and does so in their language. Likewise, one verse in Jeremiah. Isaiah follows the pattern. Israel has been naughty. Unless she changes her ways, God will chastise. But the chastisement will have an end and God will deal with Israel mercifully and deal with her enemies as per the Covenant with Abraham.

In the middle of all this is a Savior. He is desperately needed. Why?
1. The Covenant made with Abraham was one of Promise. Israel's only duty was to be circumcised. God's duty encompassed about 15 promises, the central one being the Land of Canaan "for an everlasting possession." 430 years later, God made a second Covenant at Sinai. Israel's duty was to follow a set of about 613 Laws and ordinances that would make Israel the only Nation fit to host God. In Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 were a list of blessings and curses that made up the Contract's incentive. Among them was the promise that Israel, if they polluted the Land like their predecessors did, God would eject them from their Land. That is, the two Covenant's worked against each other. One Promised the possession of the  Land and one threatened ejection from the Land.

2. The number one attribute that God looks for in a man is that the man makes God his one and only source, whether he sees the results or not. FAITH is what pleases God - not Law. So God puts FAITH as the condition of man receiving mercy because of the Savior's work. But what if Israel were found to be "IN UNBELIEF"? The Savior's Work would have to transcend man's fickle faith.

Now, we know the outcome. Israel did not repent. God's method of chastisement is to use other Nations to kill and destroy with the sword and fire, then carry the survivors off into slavery, and then mistreat them in their land of captivity. But these Nations were only supposed to chastise, not be vindictive. After all, God's plan with chastisement is to bring righteousness (Heb.12). But the Nations took pleasure in torture. Thus, God has a "day" of VENGEANCE for Israel's enemies and He has a "DAY" of JUBILEE for Israel - a day when every Israelite will be returned to his possession.

But Israel remains blind and hard of heart "till the fullness of the Gentiles" (Rom.11:25). On what basis can God sent the "Deliverer" in verse 26? God is too clever. He lays the JUDICIAL ground by making the Savior pay for "the SIN (singular) of the WORLD (Jn.1:29)" and pay for "the SINS (plural) of the WORLD (1st Jn.2:2)". Added to this, the Savior is to Emmanuel - GOD with us. And being God, His work of salvation would become, by default, eternal. God is JUDICIALLY allowed to apply mercy to who he wants to WITHOUT DAMAGING HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS! And He may punish and destroy HIS, and ISRAEL'S enemies, also without violating His righteousness - all because HE meted the appropriate retribution on Jesus.

- Isaiah is a narrative of this wonderful God-Savior and His afflictions on behalf of His People Israel - A Savior
- Isaiah is a narrative of a Nation which survives God's judgment BECAUSE they had a Covenant - a Jubilee
- Isaiah is a narrative about what happens when you mess with God and you have no relationship with Him - vengeance

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Amen! In my typical Scottish brevity….God took the responsibility for the redemption of His Creation on Himself. What an amazing thing! Grace and Mercy. He took it upon Himself to fix it all traced back to the faith of a man called Abraham, who in type was willing to sacrifice his own ‘son of promise’, Isaac because he believed the promise and that God cannot lie. And Isaac, meaning laughter, did nothing himself, but to inherit it all as that son of promise and to bear a son, Jacob, who typified the path of sanctification, but that is another story.

 

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1 hour ago, Alive said:

And Isaac, meaning laughter, did nothing himself, but to inherit it all as that son of promise and to bear a son, Jacob, who typified the path of sanctification, but that is another story.

A most worthy subject - but a big one.

In Abraham we are called, in Isaac we inherit and in Jacob we are made fit to be renamed.

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1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

A most worthy subject - but a big one.

In Abraham we are called, in Isaac we inherit and in Jacob we are made fit to be renamed.

Yup---and one of the few things, I am comfortable teaching as the Lord has given to me.

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On 5/22/2023 at 9:58 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

You talking about Isaiah only or other parts of scripture as well?

Luke 21

 

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Similarly to Matthew 24, I don't think this passage is speaking about the church.

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5 minutes ago, farouk said:

Similarly to Matthew 24, I don't think this passage is speaking about the church.

You don't believe Jews such as Mathew, Paul and John could be members of the church?

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5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You don't believe Jews such as Mathew, Paul and John could be members of the church?

They lived after Pentecost, which was the church's (as opposed to Israel's) birthday, so yes.

But those passages from Matthew and Luke seem to speak of tribulation saints.

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8 hours ago, farouk said:

They lived after Pentecost, which was the church's (as opposed to Israel's) birthday, so yes.

But those passages from Matthew and Luke seem to speak of tribulation saints.

So you believe saints who suffer tribulation such as Paul, Peter and John can not be members of the church?

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