Guest yod Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Avodah that is the most important post I've seen here in years. Thank you Love is not easily offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted February 12, 2006 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Great post Avodah. I'v been away from the board a lot lately and this is one of rhe first posts I've read since my return to regular posting. I really think it should be Bumped or pinned, or whatever is done to remind people of the importance of this ministry and it's purpose. eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) I agree wholeheartedly with Avodah's post and find myself disappointed when Christrians cannot have an even-tempered exchange of ideas and beliefs. What is so hard to understand about what James meant when he wrote, "be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."? [James 1:19,20] Speaking as a moderator, though, and regarding the need for "censorship", I have no problems removing or editing offensive threads and posts or banning people who are unwilling to accept Godly discipline when their teaching or behavior is not biblical. I have seen a broad spectrum of beliefs presented on these boards and have yet seen one of these people who did not think they were under God's annointing or that they had some special insight that others did not have. So what is our responsibility? We are told to "test the spirits". [1 John 4:1] More importantly, we are given the example of the "Bereans [who] were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." [Acts 17:11] So yes, we as moderators have a job to do and we do our best following the leading of the Holy Spirit AND God's Word. May the Lord Bless you richly, Wayne Edited February 14, 2006 by Wayne B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I think the internet breeds this type of thing, this negativity. The other problem is simply that there are a bunch of angry bitter people out there, you put your finger on it, the root of bitterness, it will stand out even when the poster is correct. I myself have both a negative and argumentative streak, I would find it helpful and would not find it offensive to be told if a post was personally bitter or negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamusat Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 102 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/26/1961 Share Posted February 14, 2006 AMEN, AMEN AMEN and AMEN!!!!! The bitterness and anger I have seen really lays heavy on my heart. It is my prayer that all who read receive it in the way it was intended, with love. Too often in this world, people want to show you what they know. It is not their intention to learn anything. And if you disagree with them, well, you know what hits the fan! I have spent most of my adult life as a non-believer. When I heard Christians spout such anger and bitterness, it only re-inforced my views (at the time) that they were no better anyone else. I rarely sensed love from them. Thank God that my mother, the most wonderful, humble, kind and loving Christian I have ever had the pleasure of knowing, showed love, grace and forgiveness CONSTANTLY. If it wasn't for her, I don't know if I would have ever seen Christ. That is how I came to know Him.. by the way she lived her life. (and GASP!! She is Lutheran!! Sorry, I couldn't resist!! ) I often wonder how many people come to boards like this searching for Christ. What would they find? Would they find love? Would they find forgiveness and grace? Or would they find bitterness and anger thrown at them? Thanks for posting Avodah!! It is one of the best I have seen here. You truly have the Spririt of Truth in your heart. Blessings, kamusat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2006 A few days ago I was rebuked in a kind way for gosipping about a celebrity. The other person wrote me a nasty note. Saying that their salvation is none of my business. ( 1 John4) 50 Cent: If anyone PM's you and causes you trouble, you can block any attempt to contact you, (just so you know). Or, you can simply say, "Please don't PM me again. I don't wish to discuss this with you." There's a "Block Sender" option you can use in the future. Also, regarding this quote from you: I wish that all who claim to be Christians are going to heaven. I just want people to know the TRUTH. I believe that it would be wrong to let someone go through life believing a lie just to keep them happy. Would that be loving? Especially if that lie caused them to go to hell. We are not to judge but we are called to test the spirits. I have loved ones that claim to be Christian but I see no evidence of the Holy Spirit in their lives. 50 Cent: This is a bit personal for me, but my stepmother died "lost". At her funeral, it was very hard to listen to everyone talk about her "in heaven" when she wanted nothing to do with the Lord while she lived. Sometimes, friend, people prefer to live in ignorance and believe the lie. Mother was a "nice person" but lived in sin and had no interest in Christ... It's hard, very hard....to speak the truth when you know you'll be hammered on by the court of public opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Speaking as a moderator, though, and regarding the need for "censorship", I have no problems removing or editing offensive threads and posts or banning people who are unwilling to accept Godly discipline when their teaching or behavior is not biblical. I just wanted to back-up the Mods on this. Before coming here, I was participating in a different Christian Board where the Moderators were not regulating converstations much. The things that went on in there was unreal! I and a spare few others got stuck in a debate with some dude who claimed to be of "the One True Church" and "those who do not listen to use are of the evil one" - quoting some verse from 1 John, IIRC. This dude was left enabled to rant on and on unchecked, spreading his (cult - obviously) propoganda. That's just one example. The Mods here regard this Board as a ministry and treat it as such, and that, at times means "casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ," (2 Cor. 10:5). That means we don't want this place to become a soundboard for false doctrine, gossip, slander, etc., etc. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2006 Before coming here, I was participating in a different Christian Board where the Moderators were not regulating converstations much. The things that went on in there was unreal! I and a spare few others got stuck in a debate with some dude who claimed to be of "the One True Church" and "those who do not listen to use are of the evil one" - quoting some verse from 1 John, IIRC. This dude was left enabled to rant on and on unchecked, spreading his (cult - obviously) propoganda. I remember Neb....I remember that board very well....and sure glad you came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Yea! Moderators. Amen Avodah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clio Posted February 14, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 62 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/23/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1962 Share Posted February 14, 2006 50 Cent: This is a bit personal for me, but my stepmother died "lost". At her funeral, it was very hard to listen to everyone talk about her "in heaven" when she wanted nothing to do with the Lord while she lived. Sometimes, friend, people prefer to live in ignorance and believe the lie. Mother was a "nice person" but lived in sin and had no interest in Christ... It's hard, very hard....to speak the truth when you know you'll be hammered on by the court of public opinion. Catsmeow, I do not know all the details of your stepmother's life or death, but I have a similar situation with my husband's mother. From the human vantage point, she died "lost". But Abba looks not upon the outward appearance, but upon the heart. Who knows what passes between the human heart and it's Creator in the last moments before death? None, not one, except for the Holy Spirit, who pleads our case before Abba in the most worthy way, with groanings without utterance. (Romans 8:26-27) Catsmeow, I submit to you, that we do not know whether your stepmother died lost. When King Jesus returns to the skies above this planet, then and only then will we know who is saved and who is lost. I trust my Beloved Bridegroom, and that the decisions He and the Most High make with regard to each human heart are perfect. But I also believe in Their mercy. I hope you find rest in your emotions and grieving process for your step-mama. Clio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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