Isa Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 280 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/15/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1965 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Sure, when we die our soul goes to heaven, at the resurrection we receive new heavenly bodies just like the one Jesus was resurrected into,1st cor 15:35-50 and 1st john 3:2. At the post trib 2nd coming when Christ returns those in heaven return with him to receive their heavenly bodies 1st cor 15:20-23,1st cor 15:51-53 and 1st thess 4:13-18. Those are the ones in heaven returning with christ at his coming revelation 19:11-21 ,we which are alive and remain will be translated into our heavenly bodies at that point aswell 1st cor 15:51-53,1st thess 4:13-18 and 1st john 3:2. We will be raised at the last day john 6:39,40,44,and 54 not 7 yrs b4 it. At the post tribulational return of Jesus. So that's two separate raptures several years apart. Can you prove that they take place so far apart? ummm,you have misread something somewhere.There is one rapture and it is at the posttrib resurrection of the just,which is at the post trib 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Read again you clearly have mistaken my statement. There is no other rapture b4 this one,this is the 1st resurrection to which the just are resurrected and we are translated. the 2nd resurrection is the resurrection of the wicked after the millennium to face judgement. So when Jesus places His feet on the Mount of Olives do we receive our heavenly bodies there and then or do we have to wait awhile? As he is returning we meet him in the air.1st thess 4:13-18 So once we meet the Lord in the air we return with Him to the Mount of Olives? Yes What do we do after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 280 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/15/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1965 Share Posted November 20, 2007 If we as christians are one in Christ there is no difference between Jew, Gentile, free man or slave then why when the Lord comes back, He leaves Israel here on the earth with the believing nations. They are not raptured after the tribulation. Why? Is there a difference between them and us? All believers are raptured after the tribulation. So all are raptured bothe Jew, Gentile, free man and slave. Do they all go into the millennial kingdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 280 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/15/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1965 Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) We seem to be doubling up here. Okay we all go into the millennial kingdom. What do we do there? If we are all raptured at that point and the wicked are seperated and thrown into the fiery furnace what is the point of the millennial reign? Edited November 20, 2007 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted November 20, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Round and round we go, when this stops only God knows. Sheesh are you all not tired of debating yet. I agree with both you and Mike on this issue. It's gone on long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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