Gerioke Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted July 24, 2006 blame satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2006 Changing focus slightly, as someone who lived in London through various IRA bombing campaigns. I would not have felt it acceptable for the British army to embark on mass carpet bombing of areas of Londonderry and Belfast where those bombers where known to have come from. Nor would I have supported British military or special forces attacks on areas in Boston and New York where those raising money to fund that terrrorism were based. Nor would I have favoured the abduction or assasination of those US politicians who made up the Irish lobby that so supported or excused those terrorist act. You really don't believe Israel is in a fight for its existance, do you? No because it is the most powerful conventional military, and the only nuclear power in the Middle-East and is backed by amongst others the worlds only super-power. Neither Hamas nor Hezbullah provide a serious threat to the existence of the state of Israel, anymore than the IRA or INLA or indeed the Islamisist terrorists who attacked the London Underground last year presented a real threat to the British state. Anyway do you think it would have been acceptable for the RAF to carpet bomb Boston in the 1970's, or kidnap/assasinate Teddy Kennedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I'm with you, Butero. Hezbollah will be a threat to Israel as long as they're allowed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prcfighter Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 52 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/08/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/07/1989 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hypothetical scenario. Suppose the KKK established a headquarters in NM or AZ with its members scattered among the general population in the city and surrounding areas. Suppose in addition the KKK proclaimed its desire to drive out the Mexicans from all of North America. Suppose now that the KKK began terrorizing Mexico to the extent of killing Mexican citizens inside Mexico. Suppose as well they kidnapped Mexican soldiers from inside the Mexican border. Suppose then Mexico decides to retalliate against the KKK with physical firepower and in the process innocent American civilians are killed. Questions: Would you call on Mexico to cease-fire to stop killing innocent civilians? Or would your outcry be against the KKK for their ruthless activity? Or would you additionally lay blame to the United States for not dealing with the KKK to begin with? im sorry but this is not a good anology. See the hizbolua are actualy part of the government. Leabon's government is divided into 5 parts and hizbaloa makes up a 5th of that. They have taken the southern region of leabon as their little kingdom. The leabonese governemt has made no action to get rid of this state in a state rule the Hizbolua have. So it is really alot different than the KKK established in AZ and NM. OUr governemtn would put a stop to that before it go to Mexico. HIzbolua is a part of Leabanesee. THe KKK is not part of the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Changing focus slightly, as someone who lived in London through various IRA bombing campaigns. I would not have felt it acceptable for the British army to embark on mass carpet bombing of areas of Londonderry and Belfast where those bombers where known to have come from. Nor would I have supported British military or special forces attacks on areas in Boston and New York where those raising money to fund that terrrorism were based. Nor would I have favoured the abduction or assasination of those US politicians who made up the Irish lobby that so supported or excused those terrorist act. You really don't believe Israel is in a fight for its existance, do you? No because it is the most powerful conventional military, and the only nuclear power in the Middle-East and is backed by amongst others the worlds only super-power. Neither Hamas nor Hezbullah provide a serious threat to the existence of the state of Israel, anymore than the IRA or INLA or indeed the Islamisist terrorists who attacked the London Underground last year presented a real threat to the British state. Anyway do you think it would have been acceptable for the RAF to carpet bomb Boston in the 1970's, or kidnap/assasinate Teddy Kennedy? The problem with that assessment is that this is only a small part of a greater Arab war against Israel. The Israel is not merely at war with the Palestinians/Hamas/Hezbollah. Israel is at war with the entire Arab world and the Arabs make no secret of this reality. It is the liberal media that tries to narrow the focus to only the Palestinians and Israel. The Arab world uses the Palestinians as a weapon against Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Anyway do you think it would have been acceptable for the RAF to ... or kidnap/assasinate Teddy Kennedy? If they did, I would send them flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2006 Changing focus slightly, as someone who lived in London through various IRA bombing campaigns. I would not have felt it acceptable for the British army to embark on mass carpet bombing of areas of Londonderry and Belfast where those bombers where known to have come from. Nor would I have supported British military or special forces attacks on areas in Boston and New York where those raising money to fund that terrrorism were based. Nor would I have favoured the abduction or assasination of those US politicians who made up the Irish lobby that so supported or excused those terrorist act. You really don't believe Israel is in a fight for its existance, do you? No because it is the most powerful conventional military, and the only nuclear power in the Middle-East and is backed by amongst others the worlds only super-power. Neither Hamas nor Hezbullah provide a serious threat to the existence of the state of Israel, anymore than the IRA or INLA or indeed the Islamisist terrorists who attacked the London Underground last year presented a real threat to the British state. Anyway do you think it would have been acceptable for the RAF to carpet bomb Boston in the 1970's, or kidnap/assasinate Teddy Kennedy? The problem with that assessment is that this is only a small part of a greater Arab war against Israel. The Israel is not merely at war with the Palestinians/Hamas/Hezbollah. Israel is at war with the entire Arab world and the Arabs make no secret of this reality. It is the liberal media that tries to narrow the focus to only the Palestinians and Israel. The Arab world uses the Palestinians as a weapon against Israel. Nice bit of paranoid rhetoric as usual but not true - as I've pointed out before I don't see how you advance the cause you support by making all these absurd untenable allegations. Israel is not at war with the Arab world. They're not fighting:Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait, the Emirates, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco, Saudi Arabia, Oman etc. You are a very silly man! If I'm wrong please post evidence of all these secret wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 You really don't believe Israel is in a fight for its existance, do you? No because it is the most powerful conventional military, and the only nuclear power in the Middle-East and is backed by amongst others the worlds only super-power. Neither Hamas nor Hezbullah provide a serious threat to the existence of the state of Israel, anymore than the IRA or INLA or indeed the Islamisist terrorists who attacked the London Underground last year presented a real threat to the British state. . . . . Then we are at the impass of impasses. I believe Islamic Jihad (sp?) is a much, much greater threat than you give it credit for. And if you are considering Israel to be like England and the Arab terrorists to be like the IRA or INLA, you are seriously mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2006 And if you are considering Israel to be like England and the Arab terrorists to be like the IRA or INLA, you are seriously mistaken. Am I. Explain in why? Same sort of tactics, similar levels of casualties. Not the same level of retaliation on the British side, as I pointed out. In the end it will end the same, an American brokered peace, with the leaders of the terrorists now hailed as reformed statesmen and regular invites for tea and biscuits at the White House by both Bush and Clinton. Just a pity about all those who have to die in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 24, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 And if you are considering Israel to be like England and the Arab terrorists to be like the IRA or INLA, you are seriously mistaken. Am I. Explain in why? Is England surrounded by nations wanting to drive the English out to sea? Are the English being threatened with irradication? Are the IRA or INLA being funded by France and Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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