Influences of Rock Music

[Floatingaxe]

I don't get it.

I shouldn't be listening to music by secular artists?

Heck, it's good music!

Seeing as music is created to glorify God only, then secular music is against God. Worshiping God is what it is for.

[Gerioke]

I don't get it.

I shouldn't be listening to music by secular artists?

Heck, it's good music!

Seeing as music is created to glorify God only, then secular music is against God. Worshiping God is what it is for.

That's like saying using your mouth for anything but praying is against God. I don't think God wants us to be oppressed in His name. I believe it is ludicrous to think that songs like Oh Suzanna are evil simply because they are not directly about God. If we marvel at a sunset, are we robbing God of His glory for saying "Oh, what a beautiful sunset"

Watch your mouth

[Axxman]

That's like saying using your mouth for anything but praying is against God. I don't think God wants us to be oppressed in His name. I believe it is ludicrous to think that songs like Oh Suzanna are evil simply because they are not directly about God. If we marvel at a sunset, are we robbing God of His glory for saying "Oh, what a beautiful sunset"

Watch your mouth

Stephen Collins Foster wrote "Oh Susanna" in the mid 1800's. He also wrote notably un-christian songs such as "Open your Lattice my Love."

Trivia bonus: A couple of lines of Oh Susanna have been changed or removed since Mr Foster died. The original lines "And killed 500 niggers" and "Dis Darkie will surely die" were removed.

While I'm not sure that songs from the 1800's are fair game in this convo...it sure was nice of you to throw in ANOTHER good example of secular music.

[Artemus Prime]

Not oppression...not looking-the-other-way acceptance...transformation. Pure and simple. If there's such a division between "Christian" and "secular" music than we all might as well stop using these Boards, and the Internet, for that matter...after all, the "original" Internet was intended for military purposes and invented by a non-Christian...so there's no way (s)he had the intention of glorifying God by its invention; therefore, we'd better stop all this technilogical nonsense. Our only focus should be to evangelize the lost and to edify the saved, each of us using our God-given talents and abilities for His glory. It's as simple as that...

[Vickilynn]

Alrighty guys...

Maybe I misrepresented my views. I'm not sure what happened, but I am not actually disagreeing with alot of what you guys say. Sure, I disagree somewhat, but thats just normal. Vickilynn I find myself agreeing with you ALOT...you seem to have it right, and I can't really argue with what you are saying.

Since the onset of this discussion my ONLY intent was to encourage people to support Christian music MORE. I wish Christians would not buy secular music, and instead buy Christian. Now in trying to make my point, I gave several examples, which I admitted made me sound a bit legalistic. I am not trying to be a legalistic, stuck-in-the-mud kinda guy. I just want people to be aware of what they are supporting and maybe inspire a change of heart in regards to Christian music.

Why do percieve that a change of perception is needed? Good question. What really got me going on this was the two links at the top of this thread. The persons involved had some VERY negative words about Christian music (and some people I know and have met, and have worked with.) This bothered me. Compounded with some of the discussions in this thread about secular music, I just wanted to put a positive spin on the Christian industry vs. secular. I stand by my claim that there are NO secular artists out there that accurately represent what we as Christians should look for in our entertainment choices. But I have said again, and again, and again, that those are personal choices between you and God. I am okay with that.

Cobalt...it was not my intention to try and pass judgement on you, or anyone. If it came across that way, I apologize. If you listen to Christian music 80% of the time, that is awesome. Thats all I I've been trying to say. Support fellow believers more than secular artists. I listened to secular artists for many years...even when I worked in Christian music. There just came a time for me when I noticed a disparity amongst Christians concerning secualr artists, and it bothered me. In my life, I am very extreme. Its either hot or cold. Yes or no. On or Off. Its almost like a competitive thing in me. But thats just me, and I accept that not everyone is like that. I will always try and persuade Christians to be 100% against non-christian artists...and support Christian music. What you do is up to you.

Vickilynn...Should my family ever be honored enough to meet you and your family...you can leave the music on. I am not that bad

Shalom Axxman,

What a gracious post!

The funny thing is, I agree with ALOT of what you're saying as well and I understand where you're coming from.

And, if you and your family ever came to visit us, you would be most welcomed and we would do everything to make you all comfortable, including not causing you any offense by what we listen to.

I believe these things are so inconsequential in the light of eternity and the Kingdom and should never be a place of division.

[LadyGunivere]

I listen to secular music not any of the harsh stuff. Never have liked it. Plus it depends on the music and lyrics as to why I like it. Mostly anymore though I do listen to Christian music. No in the small podunk town that I live in there is no way to just get everything Christian nor would I want to. It shuns people away from the truth. I've planted seeds along the way just by asking simple questions and getting people to think. That's just my 2 cents worth.

[sierra21]

I listen to secular music not any of the harsh stuff. Never have liked it. Plus it depends on the music and lyrics as to why I like it. Mostly anymore though I do listen to Christian music. No in the small podunk town that I live in there is no way to just get everything Christian nor would I want to. It shuns people away from the truth. I've planted seeds along the way just by asking simple questions and getting people to think. That's just my 2 cents worth.

LadyG your signature makes my eyes hurt. LOL.

[Kabowd]

I don't get it.

I shouldn't be listening to music by secular artists?

Heck, it's good music!

Seeing as music is created to glorify God only, then secular music is against God. Worshiping God is what it is for.

What makes one piece of music sacred and another piece secular?

[None]

I was looking through this website about rock music and it's (often) satanic influences. Now, I like music as much as the next person, and I like some of the artists shown on this site, but things like this teach us to at least aware of what we are listening to sometimes. Is anyone else aware of these things?

Any comments?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%...anic_quotes.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%...c_no_effect.htm

*edit*

See also a portion of the video 'They sold their soul for rock and roll' here

The full version is about 10 hours long. This part deals with the allegiance to Aleister Crowley by many mainstream musicians.

And this following part deals with lots of popular musicians today. To see this clip, you have to click on the link on the right hand side of the page entitled '28 minute preview':

http://goodfight.org/

Very much aware.

Even the OT teaches us that people have an easier time remembering something when the idea it put to a song.

Rock music like this can also trigger PTSD if someone constantly plays music that triggers an area in your life where this type of music/theme was present.

[Kabowd]