Joy in the Journey Posted September 28, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 477 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2006 one of the most distinguished Business Law attorneys in the U.S Like anyone could even know that ( sorry, I couldn't resist ) Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted September 29, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) Update from CSE Blogs. There is more if you click the link. "...the IRS battle will be over in the next few weeks one way or the other (win or lose). I have had dozens of lawyers and tax specialists look at our ministry and tell us that we are not breaking any laws and the three charges they brought against us are bogus but, we are not in Kansas anymore. In Oz things are different. With the IRS, everyone is guilty until proven innocent. As for the media, well, they just need a new piece of meat to grind up every day to sell their papers. Truth and the destruction of innocent lives mean nothing to them. They just want to keep the paycheck coming in. See I Tim. 6. Since the paperwork had not been filed to be part of the public record until today, I was instructed not to discus things or defend myself (this has been hard to do) but now I can share a few details. The IRS charged us with, A. 12 counts of not withholding taxes from employees, B. 46 counts of taking money out of the bank to pay ministry bills (they called it structuring) and C. one count of threatening an agent because I filed a complaint with his boss for his numerous violations of the law over the last 5 years he has been trying to indict me on something. Several of our staff have left the ministry here. There is a great spirit among the remaining ones and the work continues at a slightly less hectic pace. Dinosaur Adventure Land is still open and doing fine but the attendance has dropped off due to the negative publicity coming primarily from the stupid Pensacola News Journal article claiming we are closed. The reporter either lied or was just incompetent but the result was the same. It still saddens me to know that so many Christians just believed him and repeated the lie. Their conduct violates many scriptures about gossip, bearing false witness, slander, and speaking evil of a brother. The Christian army is the only one where they shoot their own wounded! What I have learned so far: The love of money is the root of all evil. I Tim. 6:10. Some people should not be given a badge and a gun. Prov. 30:22. Who my real friends are. Pro. 17:17. The Lord is the only one I can count on. Josh. 1:5. The founding fathers of America did a great job writing the Constitution. Many in government today ignore what it says. The cost of defending yourself against the IRS is staggering! God supplies our needs even in great testing. False accusations and threat of trial and jail puts an unbelievable strain on people and families. Never trust the media and cancel your newspaper subscription. Use the money for missions. My wife is a great friend. The book of Job means more to me now more than ever. All Job Edited September 29, 2006 by Old Timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted November 4, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Latest news from Dr. Dino, November 3 2006: This is a ministry founded eighteen years ago and mentored into its current form by Dr. Hovind. Kent and Jo have been used of our Lord to make this pivotal creation ministry what it is today, giving their entire lives, and home to spreading the Gospel and the truths of creation. As you know, Dr. Hovind has been on the road over half of the year most years. But as this is written Kent E. Hovind is sitting in jail. We do not know the Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritman Posted November 5, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 127 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,131 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/22/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1962 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I wonder if it's possible that God's plan has revealed Kent Hovid's message is a fraud. Perhaps God has let him go on until now to show people that they should be more critical instead of following along with what they WANT to believe. Some want to claim this the work of the devil, I believe it is the work of God and Kent Hovid is was not a messenger of the Lords words or will. you know to talk like that, is to try and know the mind of God, it's also possible that the Lord wants Ken to go into prison teaching about creationism to convert inmates that would not other wise have been converted. I agree that what he did was wrong, so I'm not agreeing with his breaking the law, but God can take something bad and make it something good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIME Posted November 5, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 382 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/17/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/08/1964 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I wonder if it's possible that God's plan has revealed Kent Hovid's message is a fraud. Perhaps God has let him go on until now to show people that they should be more critical instead of following along with what they WANT to believe. Some want to claim this the work of the devil, I believe it is the work of God and Kent Hovid is was not a messenger of the Lords words or will. I don't know what planet you came from, but Kent is used of God!!! Guess you believe in BILLLLLIIIIIIIOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSS of years, huh?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted November 6, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Doing a search if the Internet it appears the evolutionists are having a field day. It seems that some Christians on this board do not believe God Edited November 6, 2006 by Old Timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffnevins Posted November 6, 2006 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 806 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 141 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1973 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'll pray. Thanks for the post. I heard the number of years he'd have to spend in jail far exceeds the average for homicide or manslaughter. 5 years is the minimum for (non-self defense) killing, I believe. There's government & "its" $ logic for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted November 10, 2006 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted November 10, 2006 From CSE Blogs: We have heard from Dr. Hovind. He is faithfully serving the Savior in the Escambia County Jail. He has already lead at least two men to the Lord. The mother of one of the men called to CSE to thank us for an answer to her years of prayer. CSE continues to operate: www.drdino.com. Dinosaur Adventure Land and the bookstore are still open during winter hours. We had about 120 visitors last week. The daily radio program on: www.truthradio.com continues as well, answering live questions on: creation, evolution, and dinosaurs. We may write to Dr. Hovind. All incoming mail to prisoners is subject to screening and censoring. Dr. Hovind will probably not be able to answer letters sent to him. Pamphlets, books, CDs, or DVDs should not be mailed to him. If you would like to write to Dr. Hovind, his address is: Kent Hovind #135733 G2O*O*03 P.O. Box 17800 Pensacola, FL 32522-7789 We request your prayers for Dr. Hovind and the Creation Science Evangelism Team. CSE Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark s Posted November 10, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2006 Oldtimer, Thanks for the address! I most certainly do want to write to this godly man to encourage him! Praise Jesus for the work He is already doing through Kent. This momentary light affliction works a far greater eternal weight of glory! We must stand in pray for Kent and Jo, and all who suffer for their faith! Love in Christ, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingToDie Posted November 11, 2006 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 710 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/16/1984 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Someone mentioned Hovind's tendency to "bend" the facts. I found thissite. Granted, it's on a geocities site, which aren't always the most reliable of sources. Also, I haven't read much of it yet, so I can't vouch for it's accuracy. If nothing else, it can help the YECers here to be more informed about what they're up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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