The Gospel and God's Salvation is not for you IF YOU ARE SINLESS

[Guest]

God told me in conversation one time, when i also believed as most people believe today. that we can continue to live in sin, as long as we are under Grace, claim to be Saved, believe in Jesus, and ask for forgiveness 365 days a year, He said "There is no sin that you do that you can't cease from, therefore be prepared to answer for yourself on Judgement Day, why you did not cease from them" when He told me that, i ran from the Lord in those days, i was not willing to give up sinning. But now, i am His to do with what He wants, i no longer do those things which pleases myself, but do all things to please Him who i serve. ALL things. If then i knowingly and willingly committed sin, then how am i doing all things to please Him. If anyone knowinlgy and willingly commits sin, they are indeed pleasing self, and not the one who they claim to follow. The path that i am on, many will not take, let alone believe. It is a narrow and difficult path that only a very few will find. The world loves to sin and make excuses for them, the Truly Saved, hate to sin and fight it with all their heart, their strength, their mind, and their souls. Today's Christians say they are followers of Christ yet follow the temptations of devils and commit sins, all the while excusing their sins on human nature, or false beliefs. Much more what God has told me can be found on my website, which you can get to by looking at my profile.

Lie Not

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:9-10

And Obey

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare,

I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Romans 3:23-26

And Boast Not

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:27-28

For God Does Speak To Us

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Telling Of A Gift Most Priceless

Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1 Peter 1:18-19

A Divine Blessing Totally Undeserved and Unearned

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

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So Dear One Tell Us About Your Jesus Christ

You Know, What He Can And Can't Do For Those Who Put Their Trust In Him

And About Your Most Holy Book And About Your Teacher

Yes, Please Do Let Us Know Who Told You You Are The Keeper Of Your Salvation

And That You Can Be Good By The Keeping Of The Law And The Feast Days And Such

And About Your Own Self-Righteousness

And We Will Listen

And Lay The Holy Word Of God

Against The Thoughts And Hopes Of Your Heart

To Measure And To See If You Are Walking In The Revealed Will Of God.... Or Not

We Are Honored To Know You

And Thank The LORD Jesus You Came

Love, Joe

[gdemoss]

Googlers have found something in this thread that is drawing hits like mad....5005 views so far. See what ya gone and did Joe...hehe.

Gary

[BlessedByTheBest]

this is essential to the Gospel. the beginning of redemption is the acknowledgement of sin in our lives.

those seeking whom don't believe should realize this isn't a finger pointed at them by the Christian community, as we are all sinners and all fall short of the grace of God if not for the perfect sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[nebula]

The Gospel and God's Salvation is not for you IF YOU ARE SINLESS!

If a sinner, Truly repents of his/her sins, how are they still a sinner? Jesus told a man and a woman to "Go and Sin No More" so then even though all are sinners, they do not have to remain in a sinner state, they can, and should repent and cease to live in sin any longer. ...

I think you are mixing apples with oranges, Dave.

Who is sinless before receiving the Gospel?

No i do not knowingly and willingly commit any sin at all against Him. YES, i HAVE sinned much, and probably more then you, so YES i have sinned and i am not saying that i have never sinned, for i have sinned much. But now, i no longer knowingly and willingly commit any sin against Him, He is my Lord and Savior, why would i sin against Him? He helps me not to sin, He leads me not into temptation, and He gives me the Strength and the power to overcome any temptation that satan throws my way.

OK, but are you clear of unknowingly sinning?

i say the Lords prayer 9 times a day.

i listen to the Bible on my ipod 8 hours a day at work.

i have Jesus stickers all over my car.

i wear Jesus shirts to witness that i am a Christian

i have read the entire Bible over 70 times.

i belong to dozens of message boards.

i use to fast 3 days every month for many years, now health issues prevent me from fasting for Him.

i have hundreds of certificates from Bible studies.

i have no friends.

i have family who thinks i am nuts because i claim i have had conversations with God and that i am a prophet of God.

i love Jesus so much that i will give my life right now for Him, Why on Earth would i knowingly and willingly choose to obey His enemy and commit a sin against the very person i say is my Savior and Lord?

You ask what unknowing sins you could possibly be committing.

As I read this, I have to ask - do you love perfectly?

If you loved perfectly, how could you not have any friends? People flock towards people who give love.

Are you all-patient? all-kind? unboastful? not self-seeking (self-exalting)? not easily angered?

Do you put the needs of others above yourself? Do you weep with those who weep? Do you walk the extra mile? Do you comfort those who mourn?

[Guest shiloh357]

Go and sin no more, our Lord and Savior said. So it must be possible. Now i understand and know how Many are called but only a few will be chosen. The few actually do live in the light of Jesus Christ and not do that which is darkness.

Let us all know when you go even one day without committing a sin.

Would you believe me if i told you the Truth? Nevertheless i will tell you the Truth, i go many days, weeks, months, without sinning at all, three years is my longest stretch of time. Tell me what sin do you convict me of? my normal day is this:

i say the Lords prayer 9 times a day.

i listen to the Bible on my ipod 8 hours a day at work.

i have Jesus stickers all over my car.

i wear Jesus shirts to witness that i am a Christian

i have read the entire Bible over 70 times.

i belong to dozens of message boards.

i use to fast 3 days every month for many years, now health issues prevent me from fasting for Him.

i have hundreds of certificates from Bible studies.

i have no friends.

i have family who thinks i am nuts because i claim i have had conversations with God and that i am a prophet of God.

i love Jesus so much that i will give my life right now for Him, Why on Earth would i knowingly and willingly choose to obey His enemy and commit a sin against the very person i say is my Savior and Lord?

No i do not knowingly and willingly commit any sin at all against Him. YES, i HAVE sinned much, and probably more then you, so YES i have sinned and i am not saying that i have never sinned, for i have sinned much. But now, i no longer knowingly and willingly commit any sin against Him, He is my Lord and Savior, why would i sin against Him? He helps me not to sin, He leads me not into temptation, and He gives me the Strength and the power to overcome any temptation that satan throws my way.

But how many disciples for Christ have you made? How many people have come to Christ because of all of the things you have done. The truth is that you are operating from the wrong standard. You can have all the Jesus stickers and pray hours a day, but that is not what we called to do. We are called to make disciples for Jesus.

If you are not making disciples, if you have no one who even wants to be friends with you, it is clear that you live in your own little bubble which is anti-thetical to how we are to be living in the Kingdom of God. So for all your hard work as listed above, it doesn't mean that you are walking in the will of God. See, Satan doesn't mind you doing all of the praying, and the mail order Bible studies and putting Jesus stickers on your car. He doesn't mind you doing "religious" things, just so long as you remain outside the will of God and that means that you are not making disciples for the Kingdom. You are simply a self-absorbed person who thinks he isn't sinning, but you are only deluding yourself.

[enoob57]

Not that we should ever be settled with our sin but an ever deepening heart of

broken and contriteness to press toward His mark of Love placed upon this world

as He has effected all things by it... Love, Steven

[Guest shiloh357]

And as an aside. Every one of the things you list above have very little, if not nothing, to do with sinning or not, not one.

All those things helps me to not sin., They may have very little to do with you, but for me they help me to not sin. If i am busy doing Bible studies and listening to the Bible for 8 hours a day and saying the Lords Prayer over 9 times a day, then i won't be looking at porn, or thinking wicked things, or looking at half dressed women that are around me. Having all those stickers and stuff on my car, lets total stranger know that i am a Christain and many of those stranger will stop cursing when around me, knowing that i am a Christian. Not to mention it is written that if you profess to others that you are a Christian, Jesus will confess to His Father about you. If someone drives past me on the interstate, i witness to them that i am a Christian, All those things helps me to walk the walk that i am walking, a very narrow and difficult walk that only a few will walk, let alone find that path.

And please understand this is not an attack on you, but purely a personal observation.

noted.

If I "had no friends", and "had a family who thought I was nuts", I would seriously begin looking inwards...

i have no friends, because people don't want to be around a walking Bible, a holy person. When people are around me, they (not by my choice) feel convicted by their sinning. Not to mention if someone is living in sins, i will confront that person, because i love them, and know that if they continue to live in sins, they will not go to Heaven. i have no friends, because Jesus said it plainly "marvel not if the world hate you, it hated me first" and " You will be hated for my name sake" and many other verses. What fellowship hath light with darkness? i think i could have a friend, if that friend loved Jesus as much as i do, and hated all sins, to the point of abhoring any kind of sinning. But as of yet, i have not found this person. My family think i am nuts, just as the town where Jesus was raised in, thought Jesus was nuts, because they knew Him "Is this not Joseph's son, are his sisters not here with us, and they were offended in Him. Jesus said a prophet is not accepted in His own country, in his own house. This i know to be absolutely True. i tell them that i have conversations with God, which is a Truth, and what do they think? same as most people in this last days gerneration when they hear someone say they have heard from God, Crazy. or Listening to devils. (lol devils can talk to people and this generation believes that but God talking to people this they don't believe. Mostly because they don't hear God therefore nobody else can either.)

^i^

I used to work with a man who everyone knew was a Christian and he didn't wear a cross around his neck, didn't pray nine hours a day, didn't have Jesus stickers on his car. People at work knew he was a Christian. They knew he was Christian because of his character and his simple testimony. He had the respect of everyone in the plant and people liked him and liked being around him. He did his job and he did it well. HE was the first to get there and the last one to leave. He was friendly and a joy to be around.

He was eventually promoted to department supervisor before getting promoted to the main office. He was different, but in a good way. He stood out as a man of godly honor. And management took notice of him. He didn't make jokes about the superviors or upper management, he didn't complain about the company. He simply clocked in, did his job and did it right the first time, clocked out and went home and didn't cause anyone any trouble.

[enoob57]

And as an aside. Every one of the things you list above have very little, if not nothing, to do with sinning or not, not one.

All those things helps me to not sin., They may have very little to do with you, but for me they help me to not sin. If i am busy doing Bible studies and listening to the Bible for 8 hours a day and saying the Lords Prayer over 9 times a day, then i won't be looking at porn, or thinking wicked things, or looking at half dressed women that are around me. Having all those stickers and stuff on my car, lets total stranger know that i am a Christain and many of those stranger will stop cursing when around me, knowing that i am a Christian. Not to mention it is written that if you profess to others that you are a Christian, Jesus will confess to His Father about you. If someone drives past me on the interstate, i witness to them that i am a Christian, All those things helps me to walk the walk that i am walking, a very narrow and difficult walk that only a few will walk, let alone find that path.

And please understand this is not an attack on you, but purely a personal observation.

noted.

If I "had no friends", and "had a family who thought I was nuts", I would seriously begin looking inwards...

i have no friends, because people don't want to be around a walking Bible, a holy person. When people are around me, they (not by my choice) feel convicted by their sinning. Not to mention if someone is living in sins, i will confront that person, because i love them, and know that if they continue to live in sins, they will not go to Heaven. i have no friends, because Jesus said it plainly "marvel not if the world hate you, it hated me first" and " You will be hated for my name sake" and many other verses. What fellowship hath light with darkness? i think i could have a friend, if that friend loved Jesus as much as i do, and hated all sins, to the point of abhoring any kind of sinning. But as of yet, i have not found this person. My family think i am nuts, just as the town where Jesus was raised in, thought Jesus was nuts, because they knew Him "Is this not Joseph's son, are his sisters not here with us, and they were offended in Him. Jesus said a prophet is not accepted in His own country, in his own house. This i know to be absolutely True. i tell them that i have conversations with God, which is a Truth, and what do they think? same as most people in this last days gerneration when they hear someone say they have heard from God, Crazy. or Listening to devils. (lol devils can talk to people and this generation believes that but God talking to people this they don't believe. Mostly because they don't hear God therefore nobody else can either.)

^i^

I used to work with a man who everyone knew was a Christian and he didn't wear a cross around his neck, didn't pray nine hours a day, didn't have Jesus stickers on his car. People at work knew he was a Christian. They knew he was Christian because of his character and his simple testimony. He had the respect of everyone in the plant and people liked him and liked being around him. He did his job and he did it well. HE was the first to get there and the last one to leave. He was friendly and a joy to be around.

He was eventually promoted to department supervisor before getting promoted to the main office. He was different, but in a good way. He stood out as a man of godly honor. And management took notice of him. He didn't make jokes about the superviors or upper management, he didn't complain about the company. He simply clocked in, did his job and did it right the first time, clocked out and went home and didn't cause anyone any trouble.

The three C's DON'T 1. Criticize 2. Complain 3. Condemn and put on the shoes and 'just do it'

[Fez]

He was eventually promoted to department supervisor before getting promoted to the main office. He was different, but in a good way. He stood out as a man of godly honor. And management took notice of him. He didn't make jokes about the superviors or upper management, he didn't complain about the company. He simply clocked in, did his job and did it right the first time, clocked out and went home and didn't cause anyone any trouble.

Words to live by.......

"All things work to the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose"

I also know that the "good" describes eternity as well, but they fit the example you gave so well.....

[Bob Carabbio]

The Gospel and God's Salvation is not for you IF YOU ARE SINLESS!

True statement!!! SInless folks haven't "Fallen short of the Glory of God", and so are good to go -

Of course there's just one problem -