Bible Contradictions answered

[Joshua-777]

The NIV is pretty much the most accurate of all translations.

I disgaree floating but then again bible translations don't save you, Jesus does. Another great website for anything Christ related is CARN Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry www.carm.org they have helped me combat in chat because all of their articles are simple format and easliy click and paste. Gospel is sound and uses different translations but mostly NKJV which I like best. Know the Word!

The NIV is an alright version, But it should be taken as a thought for thought, more than a word for word, I would have to say the most accurage are the ESB, and the NKJV, The NIV was written suposibly at an earlier date, but it is missing 40 scriptures, and the wording was written for the thought of the word rather than a word for word, which is why it's not concidered a literal translation.

[Guest LAW]

Dear JOBA:

Wow, do what you want as long as you don't hurt anybody! How simple! How easy to swallow! How did all the great theologians of the past church miss that one! Congrats!

(that was sarcasm, in case you missed it.)

Don't get irked. i just had to say it--couldn't hold it back any longer.

Keep lookin', Bro'. I don't have all the answers and i may be totally ineffective witnessing to you, but i hope that the Lord keeps you hungry for Him and His word. Until then, keep on keepin' on. I believe He does honor us when we truly search for Him.

Jeremiah 29: 13-14: "When you search for me, you will find me; if you seek me with all your heart, I will let you find me, says the Lord..." (The Lord's promise to a disobedient Israel which has gone after soothsayers and mediums rather than looking to the Lord for guidance.)

[Joshua-777]

The NIV is pretty much the most accurate of all translations.

I disgaree floating but then again bible translations don't save you, Jesus does. Another great website for anything Christ related is CARN Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry www.carm.org they have helped me combat in chat because all of their articles are simple format and easliy click and paste. Gospel is sound and uses different translations but mostly NKJV which I like best. Know the Word!

But if you're going to bring Jesus to people and use the bible as the perfect word of god then this is something that's worth sorting out. And it's also what the purpose of this thread is.

Question: What is the message of the Gospel?

Need you to be more specific.

Which Gospel?:

There's only one Gospel.

What is the message of the Gospel?

No, there's a dumptruck of gospels: Could be a book of shadows, a Koran, a Bhuddist Sutra, a Torah, a New Age psudospirtual text, cuniform tablets, or even... A Christian bible. Though each one of these examples has at least 5 versions if not thousands. So since youwon't choose I will pick one... Bucklands guide to Witchcraft. The message there is to explore the spiritual and natural world, show both reverence, and primarialy to do what you like as long as you don't hurt anybody.

Um, no, your confusing it very much so. There is only one Gospel, and any other is a deciever. I noticed you mentioned the book of shadows, lol the book of shadows wouldnt even count as the same, either does bucklands guide to witchcraft, or any other which you have named. Ya see, there is one God, all else is of satan, I'm not going to candycoat my reply to this, to put it the most bluntly, There is one God and one Salvation, all other gospels are of satan to decieve people. There may be many gods, foolish idols that defile a mans heart, but there is only One God who brings life to all who accept him, and who ever accepts him will be blessed, who ever defies him will see, that the God of the most high, is a just God, and his words are righteous, You seem to confuse gospel with a spiritual opening, which is demonic, and will blind the eyes of those who fall into it, it is not a gospel, it is a trick of satan, there is one Gospel, and that is Jesus Christ. He is the Only way to salvation, and he is the Good News.

[Joshua-777]

You need to climb out of your perspective if you're going do your evangelical duity. Sure it's easy to say all that stuff is crazy crap, but If I were a betting man I'd put donw 10 to 1 odds that you haven't read any of them. You probably don't know that the bible has a lot in common with them and has even borrowed from some of them. But if you knew that some of the stuff in those other books ended up in the bible you might not be so quick to call them crazy.

Borrowed from some of them? I believe your sadly mistaken, check your dates from an accurate sourse, I do know that many have borrowed stories from the bible, Would you like references?

So if you're coming from a fresh perspective, where you haven't had one flavor drilled into your head since you were a baby. Then they all look pretty crazy, (actually the bible looks crazier than some of the others, but not the koran). So when you're trying to tell people about Jesus and they say, "why should I believe in Jesus?" and you say, "Because it's in the bible," and then they ask, "Why should I believe the bible," and then you say, "because it's the perfect word of god," and then they say, "I don't know, but I'll have a look at it." Then the next day they come back and say, "I was at the bible store and they had like 20 different bibles, heck some of them were 2 bibles. So I looked into the different bibles and found out that christians have killed each other over believeing in the wrong bible. So I'm going with the pair of mormon bibles, they haven't killed anybody for using the wrong bible and I get to have 5 wives!. Thanks BYe." Then you try and follow shouting, "Wait no, not them you're going to helllll...." Whereas if you would have just said that he needed to buy the KJV bible they would have fallen asleep before they got to any of the murderious/incestious/rape/crazy parts.

Wow you've seriously gotta observe more, 1. Knowing the Lord is about a personal relationship with the Lord, he interacts with us, and we know him personally. 2 why believe? Because we are all sinners, we all fall short of the Glory of God, His plans for us is the better and he is active in our lives, He speaks to us, and leads our steps, there are many different versions of the bible, yes, but the same message, that is why it is important to study the word of God, Compairing it to other bibles, You mixed the koran, well yes it mentions Jesus but was written at a later date around, it was written in 800 ad, when the gospels where written by the same deciples who knew Christ personally, it is twisted, and how the koran was put together was in violence. Heres a link, if you want to you could check, http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-koran-bible.htm 3. Mormon, was put together and proven false over and over and over again, the sacred text that Joseph smith attained when it was properly translated, it turned out not to be egyptian sacred text, but burial documents, the whole thing was a scam, he rewrote parts of the bible to fit his scam by claiming that the prophets got it wrong. There is too much I can say against mormons. 4. There is one God, if someone knows the Lord they know the Lord will lead them, if they want to know him, they have to accept him.

If you can't sell the bible to somebody that hasn't already bought it then what good are you?

And no I'm not Wiccan, the ways of my ancestors wan't totally murdered/tortured into oblivion by Xians

Once again, please check your history, This was during the crusades at the rise of catholism, The King wanted to make everyone Christian because Christians where generaly good people, so started a political version of Christianity, which started early catholism, It was a way to control people, Christians did not kill wiccans, You got that saverly confused, it was bishops, Then they tried to do away with Christians as well, they lased the pages of the bible with poison so no one could read what it really said, there is so much history to look at here, The break of this Govermental Church, was the freedom of Christians, we all suffered loss. When you get a chance, research info on the catacombs, More Christians died over this than wiccans, the war was on both, and it had nothing to do with God, it had to do with control on people. Dont make claims unless you researched it, and do not base your opinion on others opinions, Look at the facts. PEace.

[Ovedya]

The NIV is pretty much the most accurate of all translations.

I disgaree floating but then again bible translations don't save you, Jesus does. Another great website for anything Christ related is CARN Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry www.carm.org they have helped me combat in chat because all of their articles are simple format and easliy click and paste. Gospel is sound and uses different translations but mostly NKJV which I like best. Know the Word!

But if you're going to bring Jesus to people and use the bible as the perfect word of god then this is something that's worth sorting out. And it's also what the purpose of this thread is.

Question: What is the message of the Gospel?

Need you to be more specific.

Which Gospel?:

There's only one Gospel.

What is the message of the Gospel?

No, there's a dumptruck of gospels: Could be a book of shadows, a Koran, a Bhuddist Sutra, a Torah, a New Age psudospirtual text, cuniform tablets, or even... A Christian bible. Though each one of these examples has at least 5 versions if not thousands. So since youwon't choose I will pick one... Bucklands guide to Witchcraft. The message there is to explore the spiritual and natural world, show both reverence, and primarialy to do what you like as long as you don't hurt anybody.

Wrong again. There is only one Gospel. Look it up in the dictionary if you don't believe me.

Quit trying to skirt the issue, JOBA.

[Floatingaxe]

The NIV is pretty much the most accurate of all translations.

I disgaree floating but then again bible translations don't save you, Jesus does. Another great website for anything Christ related is CARN Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry www.carm.org they have helped me combat in chat because all of their articles are simple format and easliy click and paste. Gospel is sound and uses different translations but mostly NKJV which I like best. Know the Word!

But if you're going to bring Jesus to people and use the bible as the perfect word of god then this is something that's worth sorting out. And it's also what the purpose of this thread is.

Question: What is the message of the Gospel?

Need you to be more specific.

Which Gospel?:

There's only one Gospel.

What is the message of the Gospel?

No, there's a dumptruck of gospels: Could be a book of shadows, a Koran, a Bhuddist Sutra, a Torah, a New Age psudospirtual text, cuniform tablets, or even... A Christian bible. Though each one of these examples has at least 5 versions if not thousands. So since youwon't choose I will pick one... Bucklands guide to Witchcraft. The message there is to explore the spiritual and natural world, show both reverence, and primarialy to do what you like as long as you don't hurt anybody.

There is only ONE Gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ. Those things that you are suggesting to be gospels are stories and imaginings of depraved and deluded minds.

Your so-called gospel is an abomination to the Creator, because you choose to worship the created instead of the Creator! He hates that. It is called idolatry. Even nature in all its splendour gives it's glory to God.

Isaiah 55:12

You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.

You need to climb out of your perspective if you're going do your evangelical duity. Sure it's easy to say all that stuff is crazy crap, but If I were a betting man I'd put donw 10 to 1 odds that you haven't read any of them. You probably don't know that the bible has a lot in common with them and has even borrowed from some of them. But if you knew that some of the stuff in those other books ended up in the bible you might not be so quick to call them crazy.

So if you're coming from a fresh perspective, where you haven't had one flavor drilled into your head since you were a baby. Then they all look pretty crazy, (actually the bible looks crazier than some of the others, but not the koran). So when you're trying to tell people about Jesus and they say, "why should I believe in Jesus?" and you say, "Because it's in the bible," and then they ask, "Why should I believe the bible," and then you say, "because it's the perfect word of god," and then they say, "I don't know, but I'll have a look at it." Then the next day they come back and say, "I was at the bible store and they had like 20 different bibles, heck some of them were 2 bibles. So I looked into the different bibles and found out that christians have killed each other over believeing in the wrong bible. So I'm going with the pair of mormon bibles, they haven't killed anybody for using the wrong bible and I get to have 5 wives!. Thanks BYe." Then you try and follow shouting, "Wait no, not them you're going to helllll...." Whereas if you would have just said that he needed to buy the KJV bible they would have fallen asleep before they got to any of the murderious/incestious/rape/crazy parts.

If you can't sell the bible to somebody that hasn't already bought it then what good are you?

And no I'm not Wiccan, the ways of my ancestors wan't totally murdered/tortured into oblivion by Xians.

I don't need to read any of those things. My God is sufficient for me and so is His Word. It is truth. When you've touched God, and had the truth, nothing else satisfies. That is why you go from book to book and from god to god--nothing is true there and nothing will satisfy. Come to Christ, find salvation and satisfaction for your thirsty, hungry soul.

I don't tell people to believe in Jesus because it's in the Bible! I reveal Jesus to them through my life, my love and through His actual Word.

You are very simplistic and young in your arguments. No mormon book is going to be sold along with God's Word.

[billie]

JOBAfunky, from the TOS, in case you haven't read it:

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[Giaour]

What is an "Xian"?

We are not "xians".

We do not follow "X".

We follow Christ.

Hence we are Christians.

Please stop being disrespectful.

[billie]

You think that all Christians are "raised that way"?

Christianity isn't a "religion" you can be born into or raised to be. It's a relationship with Jesus. Each person must decide for him or herself what they choose to do with the Gospel message once they've recieved it. I know many Christians whose parents "raised them to be" a different religion, or no religion at all. I also know many atheists whose parents told them about Jesus, but they've chosen to reject Him.

The only One who can give you a good reason to believe is God. We can't do that for you. We can tell you what we've experienced. We can tell you what the Bible says. We can't give you faith. God can. Ask Him for the truth. He'll show you.

[Floatingaxe]

You are very simplistic and young in your arguments. No mormon book is going to be sold along with God's Word.

Amazon.com Barns and Noble, Waldenbooks, Half Price Books...most bookstores.

Call my me and my arguments simplistic after you can address them.

In the meantime it seems like you are missing what it is that I'm actually asking and that is why go with christianity? Don't get me wrong you're great at selling your ways to each other quoting the bible and whatnot. But that only works if you're raised in that way. For somebody who's outside your religion you sound like everybody else. "We're right 99% of everybody is wrong(% lower if your a member of one of the bigger name brands) Do what we say or else. Our book is right everybody else's book is wrong. Better get with us or else. It all sounds like thuggery. But most religions are saying that exact same thing, so... what I'm trying to get at is for somebody from the outside, Why Xianity? Why when you claim to have the perfect word of god but can't agree on which bible is right. How can one believe you? What's better about Xianity than say Islam or Buddahism. And saying that they are wrong doesn't cut it, cuz they say you're wrong. Give me a good reason to believe you!

There is only one Word of God. It doesn't matter what they say. We have the living God...the only God who says He loves us, and was willing to die for our sinfulness. The only God who rose from the grave and lives! No other God can offer LOVE, and tells you to love your enemies--the Islamic idol tells people to kill unbelievers, that they are pigs. What kind of god is that? Yuck!

No one is twisting your arm! We have all come from sinful lives and found God and His forgiveness and the way to righteousness. Who better to proclaim the realities of God and His love and forgiveness than those who experience it? The bible works for all of us who put our trust in it, so I don't understand what you are getting at in your opening bit there. It doesn't just work as an argument against by saying we were "raised that way." We have all come to Christ out of sinfulness, raised that way or not! Everyone has to come to God on their own.