Divorce/Remarriage

[firehill]

I also think that it's important to begin by defining the roles of Husband and Wife in the marriage. I believe, personally, that it is the confusion of roles that creates tension in marriage and therefore causes much grief and anger.

I think it's important to understand what the bible does and does not say regarding husbands and wives. The Bible never speaks about 'roles' of husbands and wives. This subject is one of my favorites and I could go on for days about it, oh one of the others is the body of Christ.

What is causing so much confusion in the IC is that the traditional view is clashing with the biblical partnership portrayed in the Bible of the husband and wife. With all the knowledge and information spreading it is being realized even within the IC.

[Sherman]

I like you, Sherman! You have great insight and good sense. God bless you today!

Thanks, I like you too!

Sherman

[Guest Biblicist]

I also think that it's important to begin by defining the roles of Husband and Wife in the marriage. I believe, personally, that it is the confusion of roles that creates tension in marriage and therefore causes much grief and anger.

I think it's important to understand what the bible does and does not say regarding husbands and wives. The Bible never speaks about 'roles' of husbands and wives. This subject is one of my favorites and I could go on for days about it, oh one of the others is the body of Christ.

What is causing so much confusion in the IC is that the traditional view is clashing with the biblical partnership portrayed in the Bible of the husband and wife. With all the knowledge and information spreading it is being realized even within the IC.

IC? Could you please clarify your abbreviations?

God's word clearly states the roles of husband's and wives. Although, it would be easier to list the things it does not say about the difference between the male and female role in marriage, since that list would be much shorter.

[firehill]

I also think that it's important to begin by defining the roles of Husband and Wife in the marriage. I believe, personally, that it is the confusion of roles that creates tension in marriage and therefore causes much grief and anger.

I think it's important to understand what the bible does and does not say regarding husbands and wives. The Bible never speaks about 'roles' of husbands and wives. This subject is one of my favorites and I could go on for days about it, oh one of the others is the body of Christ.

What is causing so much confusion in the IC is that the traditional view is clashing with the biblical partnership portrayed in the Bible of the husband and wife. With all the knowledge and information spreading it is being realized even within the IC.

IC? Could you please clarify your abbreviations?

God's word clearly states the roles of husband's and wives. Although, it would be easier to list the things it does not say about the difference between the male and female role in marriage, since that list would be much shorter.

The 'IC' stands for the instituionalized church wherein is much of the body of Christ (the church).

In short, there is not one passage that says that the husband is the leader nor the head of the home. There is a Greek word actualy that is translated as 'head of the home' and it is used many times throughout the NT, never in reference to the husband and actualy once used by Paul who counsels women to 'head the home'. In short, wives are not told to 'obey' to their husbands like slaves and children are told to 'obey' their parents and masters but rather Paul uses a different Greek word translated 'submit' which is what all the body of Christ are instructed to do to eachother.

The only time an actual Greek word is used which means 'authority' in relation to marriage is in regards to both husband and wife having authority over eachothers bodies.

That's all I'll say for now, in short.

Oh yeah, a related word study of kephale translated as 'head' brings to light a very interesting interpretation of what the word means beside a physical head.

[firehill]

I also think that it's important to begin by defining the roles of Husband and Wife in the marriage. I believe, personally, that it is the confusion of roles that creates tension in marriage and therefore causes much grief and anger.

I think it's important to understand what the bible does and does not say regarding husbands and wives. The Bible never speaks about 'roles' of husbands and wives. This subject is one of my favorites and I could go on for days about it, oh one of the others is the body of Christ.

What is causing so much confusion in the IC is that the traditional view is clashing with the biblical partnership portrayed in the Bible of the husband and wife. With all the knowledge and information spreading it is being realized even within the IC.

Im confused firehill.

While the word 'roles' is not present in the text, the 'role' each spouse is to play in the marriage is laid out quite conclusively in scripture. Each gender has specific instruction given....does that not indicate a 'role' each is to take upon themselves?

What do you mean when you say the bible never speaks of the roles we are to play in a marriage?

Neither in marriage or in the gathering assembly is there anything that has to do with 'roles'. There is nothing to play. As much as ones have tried to force God into a box throughout the centries so too is 'role play' forced upon male and female.

[firehill]

...double post, ooops.

[Sherman]

I also think that it's important to begin by defining the roles of Husband and Wife in the marriage. I believe, personally, that it is the confusion of roles that creates tension in marriage and therefore causes much grief and anger.

I think it's important to understand what the bible does and does not say regarding husbands and wives. The Bible never speaks about 'roles' of husbands and wives. This subject is one of my favorites and I could go on for days about it, oh one of the others is the body of Christ.

What is causing so much confusion in the IC is that the traditional view is clashing with the biblical partnership portrayed in the Bible of the husband and wife. With all the knowledge and information spreading it is being realized even within the IC.

IC? Could you please clarify your abbreviations?

God's word clearly states the roles of husband's and wives. Although, it would be easier to list the things it does not say about the difference between the male and female role in marriage, since that list would be much shorter.

The 'IC' stands for the instituionalized church wherein is much of the body of Christ (the church).

In short, there is not one passage that says that the husband is the leader nor the head of the home. There is a Greek word actualy that is translated as 'head of the home' and it is used many times throughout the NT, never in reference to the husband and actualy once used by Paul who counsels women to 'head the home'. In short, wives are not told to 'obey' to their husbands like slaves and children are told to 'obey' their parents and masters but rather Paul uses a different Greek word translated 'submit' which is what all the body of Christ are instructed to do to eachother.

The only time an actual Greek word is used which means 'authority' in relation to marriage is in regards to both husband and wife having authority over eachothers bodies.

That's all I'll say for now, in short.

Oh yeah, a related word study of kephale translated as 'head' brings to light a very interesting interpretation of what the word means beside a physical head.

You Go Girl!

I would really be interested to hear more on this from you. I haven't studied this deeply myself, though my wife and I have a pretty "tradtional" home, it's because what both of us want, her staying home taking care of the kids, and me working to support the family, etc. And it's not in any way because we think that's how it has to be. And concerning authority, our relationship is very much a partnership, with both of us being responsible and serving eachother.

But anyhow, I would be interested in what you have to share on this. Maybe start a new thread on it if you have time.

Cool!

But one thing though, I always do have the last word, even if it is "Yes-Mam"

Edited February 9, 2007 by Sherman

[Smalcald]

Sherman,

Thanks for your response about the congregations.

I see some of what you are saying in scripture but not all of it. However, I believe your solutions and intent may be correct about cherishing marriage, versus hardening the heart.

I guess I was confused about the denominations because most modern Christians pay very little attention to what their denominations or the bible says regarding most teachings which contradict what they really want to do anyway; they just search out a new bunch down the street that will not make them feel bad about their shame.

We just go with our trashy culture. The culture says its okay to divorce for pretty much any reason, the most common being you want a new women or man or that you are

[Sherman]

Sherman,

Thanks for your response about the congregations.

I see some of what you are saying in scripture but not all of it. However, I believe your solutions and intent may be correct about cherishing marriage, versus hardening the heart.

I guess I was confused about the denominations because most modern Christians pay very little attention to what their denominations or the bible says regarding most teachings which contradict what they really want to do anyway; they just search out a new bunch down the street that will not make them feel bad about their shame.

We just go with our trashy culture. The culture says its okay to divorce for pretty much any reason, the most common being you want a new women or man or that you are

[Smalcald]

Sherman,

Thanks for your response about the congregations.

I see some of what you are saying in scripture but not all of it. However, I believe your solutions and intent may be correct about cherishing marriage, versus hardening the heart.

I guess I was confused about the denominations because most modern Christians pay very little attention to what their denominations or the bible says regarding most teachings which contradict what they really want to do anyway; they just search out a new bunch down the street that will not make them feel bad about their shame.

We just go with our trashy culture. The culture says its okay to divorce for pretty much any reason, the most common being you want a new women or man or that you are