HisMindinme Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 255 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/08/1963 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 I find it an interesting observation of both my own behavior and what I see in others as well: We write things based on our own emotional lust feeding, but then an interesting thing happens. When we touch off an emotional response nerve in someone else, we feed on the combative exchange as well. I know I sure do and I am thankful to have this new awareness getting more and more focus in me as I write this. Thanks to you all! I am going to give this special attention from now on. I know there is a godly side to this, but my first step is to see the lust-feeding side of it in me. My first step is to just watch and observe myself doing it. Moreover, when I see that and observe it for a time and get to know it at that level, then to seek the Mind of Christ: What does Jesus think? What is the Mind of Christ? Seeking the Mind of Christ birthed in myself of the Spirit of God so that my own mind can be laid to rest, I can pick up that part of my own cross and take up the Mind and thinking of Christ instead. My flesh and lusts will not be fed in it and I will suffer. A very interesting trail is it not? I am happy to know what you all think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2008 Saints, Please refrain from attacking Mr Robertson personally. You are free to comment on the prophecy in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2008 I started to respond, then realized I could not do so without attacking Pat Robertson personally. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2008 I started to respond, then realized I could not do so without attacking Pat Robertson personally. Oh well. I think we should be able to discuss the relative merits of a person's position without denigrating them personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2008 I started to respond, then realized I could not do so without attacking Pat Robertson personally. Oh well. I think we should be able to discuss the relative merits of a person's position without denigrating them personally Its not a position thats based on objective analyses of current events though, its simply Robertson claiming he has a divinely inspired prophecy. Thus, since his prophecy is purely of personal origin and basis on his part, I am not sure how one can discuss its merits without discussing Robertson personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agape_CTL Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 74 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/04/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/12/1978 Share Posted January 3, 2008 God has appointed leaders in the church. Pat Robertson has a large group of people that look to him as Timithy and Titus looked to Paul. Pat has been anointed by God for the position he is in. Pray for him, Pat effects a lot of people unbelievers and believers. Plus if you speak out against someone that God has choosen, how do you think that will effect your anointing? God, thank you for your grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted January 3, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2008 God has appointed leaders in the church. Pat Robertson has a large group of people that look to him as Timithy and Titus looked to Paul. Pat has been anointed by God for the position he is in. Pray for him, Pat effects a lot of people unbelievers and believers. Plus if you speak out against someone that God has choosen, how do you think that will effect your anointing? God, thank you for your grace. God appoints every preacher? Every pastor claims to be called by God into their profession. I believe that the majority truly were, but not all were. One can be truly called, one can delude themselves into thinking they were called, and one can just out and out lie about being called as well. Just because someone is a church leader does not mean that they were anointed by God to their position. After all, was Fred Phelps anointed by God to his position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisMindinme Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 255 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/08/1963 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 I started to respond, then realized I could not do so without attacking Pat Robertson personally. Oh well. I think we should be able to discuss the relative merits of a person's position without denigrating them personally Its not a position thats based on objective analyses of current events though, its simply Robertson claiming he has a divinely inspired prophecy. Thus, since his prophecy is purely of personal origin and basis on his part, I am not sure how one can discuss its merits without discussing Robertson personally. Yep! It's like trying to keep religion out of politics. Not possible when politics crosses the line into the arena of religion (i.e. abortion, gay marriage, etc). Brother Robertson opened himself to folks looking at and inspecting the fruit of his living. He made the choice to step on to the public stage. Each time he appears on his television show and says, "Thus Saith the Lord," he's put himself in a position for folks to ask questions about what he does in that personal arena. Now -- if we were talking about what he does at home, what he does in his bedroom or some other non-public ministry aspect of his life, then yes -- I agree. Moreover, I further agree with you in this sense: An unrighteous discernment geared towards either the feeding of my own flesh and lusts or mine plus others IS an aggrevated personal assualt NOT based on the Mind of Christ and Spirit of God in ANYONE. So, to where I have perhaps crossed THAT line, I apologize. To where I have not (or others have not) no apology is required. What if I had said, "Thus saith the Lord" and it didn't come to pass? Honestly, I expect folks here to call me on it. I expect to be looked at, given suggestions, corrections -- AND -- I expect along that trail will be folks speaking from their own enslaved minds rather than the Spirit of God. I am not saying it is right, I am saying that I expect it. Better than "Can't we all just get along" -- is -- "Can't we all just be adults?" -- better yet -- "Can't we all just strive for the Mind of Christ in us?" I greatly appreciate the call to calm and to a self-examination of source (either my mind or the Mind of Christ). I VERY much appreciate that reminder. Yet, I balance that call to also give respect to the freedom of expression of people here. Paul said it nicely: Php 1:15 Some indeed even preach Christ because of envy and strife, and some also of good will. Php 1:16 Those, indeed, preach Christ out of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds. Php 1:17 But these others preach in love, knowing that I am set for the defense of the gospel. Php 1:18 What then? Nevertheless, in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached. And I rejoice in this. Yet, also I will rejoice. Are some speaking their mind out of contention, insinceriy, pretense and for the purpose of making other angry or adding to their pain -- YOU BET! For me, the better call to folks is to just remind us to seek the Mind of Christ and -- to find out and become aware of our own brokenness and then come back to the subject at hand. There are plenty of people here who are quite capable of doing so and apologizing along the trail. So, as for me: I think the matter of what Brother Robertson said and did, how he responded and certainly my take on the matter has been fully said. I am quite happy to let the thread stand as is as a reference point and be done with it (for my part only). Others certainly will add as they feel led and want I am quite sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted January 4, 2008 where is my post from a short time ago....oh well I will be back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I await with baited breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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