MorningGlory Posted February 5, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.12 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2008 Spoken from a man who has never actually been crucified. Stating the obvious here. You noticed anyone that has been crucified talking much? Only Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiko Posted February 5, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 211 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/14/2006 Share Posted February 5, 2008 If the spleen is covered by the rib cage, how is it that it is palpable during an abdominal exam.....and what, you think a spear point could not find it's way to a person's spleen???? No reason to get upset, OK? We're just discussing anatomy. All I know is that the pictures I have seen of the human abdominiopelvic cavity show the spleen directly to the left of the stomach and underneath the lower left end of the rib cage. I would imagine palpation being done from the inside (right side of the left rib cage and going in). As for the spear, I just think that a pierce from the left side would be more difficult to hit the spleen, since it is the furthest left of the upper abdominal organs and against the rib cage. But even if you are correct - does not the Scripture state that Jesus was dead before the soldier pierced His side? And where did the water come from? This is according to Lee Strobel's book "The Case For Christ." The sustained rapid heart rate of Jesus on the cross that would have contributed to heart failure resulted in the collection of fluid in the membrane around the heart and lungs (called pericardial and pleural effusion, respectively). When the spear was stuck into Jesus' side, this 'water' came out with the blood. Speaking medically, I believe Jesus died of cardiac arrest (the irregular breathing caused carbon dioxide in the blood to dissolve into carbonic acid, which makes the blood's acidity go up and leads to an irregular heartbeat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted February 6, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2008 Crucifixion "not all that bad"? All i can say is, "Go try it some time!' http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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