Welcome to the cult of Barack Obama

[Guest LadyC]

Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick..... just kidden, couldn't resist....

Now back to Obama....did anyone else watch Fox news and see the little clip from one of his campain (yepp meant to spell it that way) rallies?

Everyone cheering, yelling, waving their arms...and he says...wait, I need to blow my nose....he pulls out kleenex and blows....and everyone cheers I gotta tell ya...that just creeps me out....the man just has to blow his nose and people go nuts...somethings rotten....

i'd use the roll eyes emoticon, but it has a smile on it LOL. that's just bizarre! i'm glad i didn't see it!

ya know, i don't recall any girls wearing sleazy clothes making a video about how they wanted to be reagan's girl, do you? obama is regarded as some sort of sex symbol or something.... reagan, famous as he was for his acting career, never had that kind of following. people respected him, but they didn't worship him.

[refugepsa91]

Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick..... just kidden, couldn't resist....

Now back to Obama....did anyone else watch Fox news and see the little clip from one of his campain (yepp meant to spell it that way) rallies?

Everyone cheering, yelling, waving their arms...and he says...wait, I need to blow my nose....he pulls out kleenex and blows....and everyone cheers I gotta tell ya...that just creeps me out....the man just has to blow his nose and people go nuts...somethings rotten....

i'd use the roll eyes emoticon, but it has a smile on it LOL. that's just bizarre! i'm glad i didn't see it!

ya know, i don't recall any girls wearing sleazy clothes making a video about how they wanted to be reagan's girl, do you? obama is regarded as some sort of sex symbol or something.... reagan, famous as he was for his acting career, never had that kind of following. people respected him, but they didn't worship him.

Honestly, its hard to find the right words to describe this strange behavior....but after the nose blowing clip...I just give up! How do we deflect "incomprehensible" behavior with logic.....

[JustinM]

Michael Savage's "liberalism is a mental disorder" comes to mind. Liberals are atheist/agnostic in nature so they need something to believe in. Hollywood worships itself and barak obama, so naturally the liberal lemmings follow their favorite character. Does the story of the pied piper mean anything to you?

quote forrestkc: "Yet the Democrats have the most inspiring candidate they have had since Bobby Kennedy, and the Republicans are jealous. . ."

Do you really think we are that fickle? Hope, Change, etc. are nice words but they don't inspire us. We aren't simpletons. I could never be jealous of a baby killing socialist. A socialist is not something to be admired by independent minded and motivated human beings and especially Christians and Traditionalists.

Your low opinion of Christians and Conservatives infects your posts and I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago. It's impossible for you to have an unbiased discussion. We talk about the creepiness of Obamania and you bring up Reagan, who is admired by people all across the political spectrum.

His idea of change and hope will lead to socialism and despair. Socialism has been around longer than our democracy, there's nothing new about it. His idea of new things is higher taxes, we suffered through those already, international healthcare, germany, russia, china, cuba even most of europe all have that program, that's nothing new either. Reducing the military was done in the nineties and we see how well that worked, we've been trying to undo the damage of the clinton regime for nearly 8 years now. abortion on demand, that's nothing new either, abortion has been around for over 40 years, at a cost of over 40 million of our children. Child sacrifice has been around longer than the bible, what's new about that? We are still sacrificing our children to our gods, but we are so arrogant as a nation, that we believe we are deists and are sacrificing our children for ourselve's relentless pursuit of recreation and materialism.

Hope? For what? Christians already have hope, it's what we live for. Is barak obama gonna fill in that spiritual vacuum, perhaps one day, when he can call fire down from the heavens or raise the dead.

A social utopia will never exist, how many lives will be destroyed when we finally figure that out. How many people will be sent to hell before we realize that we cannot govern ourselves?

[The Lorax]

we've been trying to undo the damage of the clinton regime for nearly 8 years now.

Bush sure undid that nasty surplus....and then some.

[forrestkc]

we've been trying to undo the damage of the clinton regime for nearly 8 years now.

Bush sure undid that nasty surplus....and then some.

He also managed to cut that Clinton era job creation rate by more than half, actually reduce median income by nearly 1000 dollars since he took office, ruin the nation's reputation around the world, and destroy any competence in government that was left over from the 90s. Its taken a lot of work, but little by little, the Republicans have managed to do that.

On a side note, I had no idea until JustinM pointed it out that I worshiped Obama as some kind of a deity. Its rather ironic to be called a "lemming" by someone that does nothing but spew talking points out of right wing talk radio and right wing books. You can bet that what ever buzz words guys like O'Reilly are throwing around, "traditionalists verses secular progressives" and so on, they will be repeated on here by those that call liberals unthinking lemmings. The day I outsource my brain to Bill O'Reilly and Savage, maybe they will have a point.

[refugepsa91]

He also managed to cut that Clinton era job creation rate by more than half, actually reduce median income by nearly 1000 dollars since he took office, ruin the nation's reputation around the world, and destroy any competence in government that was left over from the 90s. Its taken a lot of work, but little by little, the Republicans have managed to do that.

Did Clinton do the right thing by signing NAFTA? Did you lose your job because of it? I know lots of people who did...although not until Bush was in office...but the company had to wait for its contracts to expire...that took a few years depending on when the company signed them...they knew who to blame...do you?

[Oh Hamburgers!]

A social utopia will never exist, how many lives will be destroyed when we finally figure that out. How many people will be sent to hell before we realize that we cannot govern ourselves?

So society should just stop trying?

[forrestkc]

Did Clinton do the right thing by signing NAFTA?

Yes.

Did you lose your job because of it?

No.

I know lots of people who did...although not until Bush was in office...but the company had to wait for its contracts to expire...that took a few years depending on when the company signed them...they knew who to blame...do you?

Transitional economies always result in worker displacement as old industries are phased out and or outsourced. However, the question is were more jobs created than lost? Economists estimate that NAFTA resulted in a loss of just over 1 million jobs. However, 22 million jobs were created during the Clinton years. Thats 22 million net new jobs. Moreover, median income went up every single year. In fact, the median household income was 8 thousand dollars higher at the end of the Clinton years than it was at the beginning. In contrast, median household income today is a thousand dollars lower than it was the day Bush took office.

Free trade catches a lot of blame, but the fact is you will not find a single economist that would argue against it. Free trade can result in some job losses in some industries. This is because it results in sectors of the economy that the United States is inefficient at being outsourced to nations that are more efficient at them, meanwhile the resources freed up by moving those inefficient industries out of our economy are freed up for use by sectors of our economy which we are much more competitive in. For example, while we have lost a lot of manufacturing jobs, we also gained a huge number of high paying jobs in I.T., Biotech, and Medicine as well as other new economy industries.

I can understand liberals arguing against free trade because they have an ideological objection to it (they are wrong though). I can't understand conservatives arguing against it because free trade is a pillar of the free market.

[refugepsa91]

Tell those that worked their whole lives in those manufacturing jobs that it made good economic sense.... I would venture to say that its way more than 1 million jobs loss....here in MI alone its almost 200,000 jobs lost...although I will say NOT all of them went overseas, some left the state because of our tax happy governor...yepp, shes a dem

To be fair, I'm not a huge McCain fan either.... Le Sigh.....

I would like to add though, I don't give a whit what an "economist" thinks about free trade....those who are not affected have their heads in the clouds ignoring the millions who are....sorry, just how it is.

[OneLight]

Not to be a stick-in-the-mud about your theories, forrestkc, but that outsourcing cost me a $45000 a year job. However, another job market did increase where I did find my new job. A Homeless Outreach Worker, for less then half the pay.

I wanted to use this as an example, not because I dislike my new job. Helping others is what God has me doing and I do have my needs met, but there is no justification for so many jobs lost. It cost many thousands of dollars to become re-educated in order to qualify for these new jobs in high technology, if they do not already have the skills, which most do not.

Finding anyone to argue against it is like trying to find anyone on the republican side to argue against giving tax breaks to the big companies, who, in return, were supposed to pass it down to their workers, but have lined their pockets with huge bonuses, gigantic stock options and unbelievable retirement plans. Nobody will ever bite the hand that feeds them.