AlexanderBrown Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) Well as we all know Karma in a nutshell is "What goes around comes around" and what we also know is most Christians disagree with this theory (Im NOT one). I personally believe Christians believe in it too, just they don't call it Karma. I may be reading it wrong or such, if I am.. tell me. Heres one; Luke 6:378, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged : Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. Sounds alot like what goes around comes around, or what you do to others will be done to you. P.S. I am a Christian im just saying... Alex Edited July 10, 2008 by AlexanderBrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,390 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 It is not at all Christian and is heresy to believe in this(karma) for any Christian. It would seem from your comment that you really do not understand the historical teachings about it, nor the difference Biblically either. Any similarity does not mean it is truth nor full truth nor from the True Living God. There are many differences. It is too long to go into here without several pages of information. The over simplification is inaccurate that you have suggested, both to Christian belief and also to the non Christian beliefs that you are inferring to in a fragment here. ...the doctrine of karma, involving rebirths in the ascending or descending scale, according to the merits or demerits of the present. According to the law of karma (an unbending and impersonal rule of the universe).... Both science and Christian belief rejects this... ...there is no reincarnation of natural laws form the divine that we will be rebirthed at different caste over and over till we get it right. Nor or we equal to demons animals etc. Nor can anything we do work out our eternal life or salvation by mans works alone. Even nature tells us that hope, and not "nothingness", is what it is all about. ~~~~ Jesus spoke of people receiving either eternal reward or eternal punishment according to whether they accept his forgiveness during their ONE lifetime on earth (Matthew 25:31-46; see also Hebrews 9:27). Jesus explained that he came into the world "to seek and to save the lost" (Luke 19:10). He said that he "did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mark 10:45). Jesus showed his forgiving love even while being executed on a cross. A thief on a cross next to Jesus confessed his sin and asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus responded, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43). Only faith in Jesus was required for paradise, not lifetime after lifetime of working off bad karma and building up good karma. As Jesus announced: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). That, indeed, is good news -- for this life and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderBrown Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 It is not at all Christian and is heresy to believe in this(karma) for any Christian. It would seem from your comment that you really do not understand the historical teachings about it, nor the difference Biblically either. Any similarity does not mean it is truth nor full truth nor from the True Living God. There are many differences. It is too long to go into here without several pages of information. The over simplification is inaccurate that you have suggested, both to Christian belief and also to the non Christian beliefs that you are inferring to in a fragment here. ...the doctrine of karma, involving rebirths in the ascending or descending scale, according to the merits or demerits of the present. According to the law of karma (an unbending and impersonal rule of the universe).... Both science and Christian belief rejects this... ...there is no reincarnation of natural laws form the divine that we will be rebirthed at different caste over and over till we get it right. Nor or we equal to demons animals etc. Nor can anything we do work out our eternal life or salvation by mans works alone. Even nature tells us that hope, and not "nothingness", is what it is all about. ~~~~ Jesus spoke of people receiving either eternal reward or eternal punishment according to whether they accept his forgiveness during their ONE lifetime on earth (Matthew 25:31-46; see also Hebrews 9:27). Jesus explained that he came into the world "to seek and to save the lost" (Luke 19:10). He said that he "did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mark 10:45). Jesus showed his forgiving love even while being executed on a cross. A thief on a cross next to Jesus confessed his sin and asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus responded, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43). Only faith in Jesus was required for paradise, not lifetime after lifetime of working off bad karma and building up good karma. As Jesus announced: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). That, indeed, is good news -- for this life and beyond. I guess that DOES make sense.. Im sorry for my being stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,390 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dear Alex, You're not being stupid. This is some of the propaganda of changing parts of ancient pagan religions to so called new age to society and trying to incorporate it into everyday language and beliefs. We hear it all too often. People are mixing up bits and pieces making their own religions these days. Please get grounded in the faith and remember there is research from Christian sources that can be so helpful to you. I am glad that you love the Lord , that is such a great thing! God be your Saviour, constant helper and best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
followerofjesus Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,013 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/08/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 For those who don't understand what karma means it is similar to "you reap what you sew" . It is basically the same just a different theology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,390 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 Follower, it is actually a lot more than that. Anyway, one can do research and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahDavid Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,166 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 It is not at all Christian and is heresy to believe in this(karma) for any Christian. It would seem from your comment that you really do not understand the historical teachings about it, nor the difference Biblically either. Any similarity does not mean it is truth nor full truth nor from the True Living God. There are many differences. It is too long to go into here without several pages of information. The over simplification is inaccurate that you have suggested, both to Christian belief and also to the non Christian beliefs that you are inferring to in a fragment here. ...the doctrine of karma, involving rebirths in the ascending or descending scale, according to the merits or demerits of the present. According to the law of karma (an unbending and impersonal rule of the universe).... Both science and Christian belief rejects this... ...there is no reincarnation of natural laws form the divine that we will be rebirthed at different caste over and over till we get it right. Nor or we equal to demons animals etc. Nor can anything we do work out our eternal life or salvation by mans works alone. Even nature tells us that hope, and not "nothingness", is what it is all about. ~~~~ Jesus spoke of people receiving either eternal reward or eternal punishment according to whether they accept his forgiveness during their ONE lifetime on earth (Matthew 25:31-46; see also Hebrews 9:27). Jesus explained that he came into the world "to seek and to save the lost" (Luke 19:10). He said that he "did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mark 10:45). Jesus showed his forgiving love even while being executed on a cross. A thief on a cross next to Jesus confessed his sin and asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus responded, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43). Only faith in Jesus was required for paradise, not lifetime after lifetime of working off bad karma and building up good karma. As Jesus announced: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). That, indeed, is good news -- for this life and beyond. excellent accurate post elkie love your sister in Christ, Rebekah David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I don't believe in "karma", but I do believe that what goes around comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL_Pond Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 36 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/10/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 Follower, it is actually a lot more than that. Anyway, one can do research and see. I agree Elkie. Good post. Read the Word, and be rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.97 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted July 10, 2008 My karma ran over your dogma. Someone had to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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