Nancy Pelosi attacks the POTUS

[barracuda]

sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/05/21/MNG5F6PP2A1.DTL

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco rejected Republican demands Thursday that she apologize for her strong condemnation of President Bush, as raw nerves over Iraq collided with raw politics on Capitol Hill.

Republican leaders accused Pelosi of taunting the troops, inspiring the enemy and putting American lives at risk by telling The Chronicle on Wednesday that Bush is an "incompetent leader'' who lacks the judgment, experience or knowledge to make good decisions.

Pelosi stood her ground, telling reporters that "the emperor has no clothes." With the violence in Iraq threatening to overshadow all other issues in the coming election season, each party claimed to possess the moral high ground in setting the rules for debate.

What do you guys think of this?

[other one]

Well considering this "war on terrorism" according to the administrations defination may well last 20 to 50 years. With this the case you can't really expect people to keep their opinions to themselves for that length of time in a country with supposedly open government.

She has the right to express her feelings openly any way she desires and is willing to accept the return words and actions of the people of the country. I am sure there will be a price to pay from many for her words.

I personally agree with her asessment of the administration, and I have a right to say so for I helped vote them into office. Think what you will of me for it doesn't matter in the long run, but I am very disappointed in Mr. Bush and friends.

Sam

[Steff]

I think she spoke her mind and was right to do so. I read what she said and it wasn't out of line. She basically put forth that the administration didn't think things through thouroughly before going to war in Iraq, and I quote:

"I believe that the president's leadership in the actions taken in Iraq demonstrate an incompetence in terms of knowledge, judgment and experience in making the decisions that would have been necessary to truly accomplish the mission without the deaths to our troops and the cost to our taxpayers."

She was well within her rights to say so if she thought so. If more politicians spoke their mind we'd be a lot better off.

[Guest yod]

I wish more Democrats would say this!

We would end up with 100% Republicans in government except in San Francisco and Boston were righteousness doesn't matter even a little bit

Thank God my hope isn't in a political party...but the liberal wing of the Democratic Party is taking a bold stand for wickedness every chance they get.

Those darn un-patriotic spawns of Satan!!!

At least the Republic spawns of Satan are patriotic!

[Steff]

Patriotic doesn't have to mean Dumb.

It is not unpatriotic to criticize our leaders, in fact our founding fathers thought it was our civic duty to question our leadership and their motives.

I don't vote for Republican or Indpendant, I vote for the person.

[Guest yod]

I don't have any loyalty just because someone is a Republican.....I'm just hating on the Dems 'cause they is dogs.

How is that for criticising leaders??

And picking on River because I like him (and I'm a meanie)

[Guest LCPGUY]

Patriotic doesn't have to mean Dumb.

It is not unpatriotic to criticize our leaders, in fact our founding fathers thought it was our civic duty to question our leadership and their motives.

Yes,

but not in time of war when the lives and welfare of our troops are at stake!

That used to be considered either treason or sedition.

Nancy and her ilk are just trying to destroy Bush and in the process putting our troops in even more danger. She is one of the "Enemy within." She is against everything decent and moral. She favors murdering babies. She should be behind bars in my opinion. Ditto for most of the alphabet channel news reporters, or traitors I should say.

Bro John

[Guest yod]

Nancy and her ilk are just trying to destroy Bush and in the process putting our troops in even more danger. She is one of the "Enemy within." She is against everything decent and moral. She favors murdering babies. She should be behind bars in my opinion. Ditto for most of the alphabet channel news reporters, or traitors I should say.

How patriotic of you John...to speak out against our leaders

I'm sure our friends here would agree that was a good thing....

[Guest LadyC]

we live in a country where thousands have died to protect our right to free speach... whether your democrat, republican, or anything else.

but with every right comes a HEAVY responsibility to weigh what we say and when we say it.... and how our words might impact the lives of others.

remember right after 9/11? the entire nation was united in grief. the entire nation was united in the determination to put an end to terrorism. little by little our nation became divided again, and becomes more divided every hour that we draw nearer to the election.

nancy had every right to voice her opinion. but she acted very irresponsibly in her timing and her platform, which is typical of the current democratic party. note i said the current one. in generations past, the democratic party was honorable and put the welfare of its citizens and its troops before their political greed. such is not the case anymore.

this is not to say that the republican party has a spotless track record either! but if you examine both parties throughout history, the two seem to have both done total reversals. i still vote according to a person, not according to a party. it just so happens that there are very few democrats i'd bother voting for.... and very few republicans i wouldn't vote for.

zel miller, democrat, would get my vote in a heartbeat for any office he ran for that i had a voice in.

kenny guinn, republican, will never get a vote from me unless it is to be given a one way ticket to syberia. maybe he'd have the good fortune to be seated next to nancy.

[Steff]

Yes,

but not in time of war when the lives and welfare of our troops are at stake!

That used to be considered either treason or sedition.

Sedition or Treason for those acts were only for enlisted troops on the front lines. It is well within her right to voice her opinion whether I agree with it or not.

Nancy and her ilk are just trying to destroy Bush and in the process putting our troops in even more danger. She is one of the "Enemy within." She is against everything decent and moral. She favors murdering babies. She should be behind bars in my opinion. Ditto for most of the alphabet channel news reporters, or traitors I should say.

Fallacy of non sequitur and not even a reasonable argument here. Basically all you said is "she's bad because I don't like her". Sure she doesn't like Bush and neither do I but that doesn't mean we're out to destroy the USA.