ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted November 14, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Finding myself hard-pressed to not conclude that THE LORD GOD is truly ending this. Title of this chain/thread comes from an article by Leonard Ravenhill from decades ago. He was looking for Elijah-like believers who would stand up against this present darkness and the outright hate and blasphemy against God The Father and The Son of God our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Was bad then-much much worse today. The following article is just one small example of there seeming to be little to nothing left of Evangelical Christianity allowed in the world media. Yes, have very been very closely following statements from the magazine "Christianity Today", President George Bush, Pope John Paul II as well as Pope Benedict XVI. As well as Billy Graham Evangelical Association. Certainly seems to be over. Revelation 13: 1. One World Government. 2. One world financial system. 3. One world religion. 2. and 3. seem essentially to be here in practice. Maybe silence is best response as to 1. Titus 2:13 Ron... ******************************************************************************** ****************** You are here: LAT Home > Articles > 2007 > October > 20 > California | Local Archive for Saturday, October 20, 2007 Scholars try to reconcile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted November 15, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 4.99 Reputation: 1,854 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Online Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted November 15, 2008 What in the world is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 16, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wish that was all it was. If you noticed, the article was written 2007 and is old news. The idea of a One World Religion has been around for some time now, birthing The Emergent Church of today. Even though it is not the same as what has been brought forth by the worlds religious leaders, it is an off shot from the basic concept. "Take away what make us different and offensive so we all can agree and live in love." Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance is one group that is trying to break down the differences between World Religions of all kind, and bring them together so we all can live on this earth in peace. By reading their belief statement (linked above), you will read that they believe "In the importance of individual believers determining evil influences and policies within their chosen faith group, and strongly advocate for their correction." This leads me to strongly believe that once accepting all religions living in peace as a goal, they will try to advocate removing what they consider "evil" within their beliefs. Hmmm ... this means that a lot of the Bible will be discarded. It's real and it is here. We just don't discuss it much at all. God Bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemaughan Posted November 16, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 630 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1990 Share Posted November 16, 2008 My my my. That's all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted November 17, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) I wish that was all it was. If you noticed, the article was written 2007 and is old news. The idea of a One World Religion has been around for some time now, birthing The Emergent Church of today. Even though it is not the same as what has been brought forth by the worlds religious leaders, it is an off shot from the basic concept. "Take away what make us different and offensive so we all can agree and live in love." Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance is one group that is trying to break down the differences between World Religions of all kind, and bring them together so we all can live on this earth in peace. By reading their belief statement (linked above), you will read that they believe "In the importance of individual believers determining evil influences and policies within their chosen faith group, and strongly advocate for their correction." This leads me to strongly believe that once accepting all religions living in peace as a goal, they will try to advocate removing what they consider "evil" within their beliefs. Hmmm ... this means that a lot of the Bible will be discarded. It's real and it is here. We just don't discuss it much at all. God Bless! Dear Onelight: Gave that article since it seemed to express what I have been shown happening worldwide. The Holy Bible and God The Father and His Son Jesus Christ have basically been jettisoned by the visible Church. "Dialogue" is the rule . Notice the alJazeera article a few days ago re Saudi King interfaith dialogue? Franklin Graham called Islam "evil and wicked religion" after 9/11. I cheered! Notice not one Evangelical Christian leader supported him? Not one. Be in the whole armour of God-Ephesians 6:10-18. Revelation 13 as well as 2 Thessalonians 2:3- and verses in Daniel describe the "all power" given to the Enemy. One senior believer told me face to face that they had seen an actual kosmokrator [ruler of the darkness of this world]-materialized and then dematerialized. I was shown what I believe were 2 kosmokrators in a vision:kind of in response to my question to The Trinity:how could that Christian leader say that? Those 2 were appearing to be in control of that ministry. So no "accuser of the brethen" Satanic attacks by me here. Just the opposite. Just the opposite. He has clearly instructed me to NEVER judge hearts but judge facts and go on the attack spiritually. The physical war on terror-probably lies and disinformation up the yingyang. Obviously factor that in also. Put yourself in Pres. Bush' place-could you say what Islam truly is? But also remember USA called France part of "the axis of weasels" for not participating in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Then the Danish cartoons "blaspheming" the prophet Mohammad:explosion and churches burned, etc. Notice that the USA "supported" our allies the Danes by having NO newspapers in the USA print the cartoons? Talk about who is the weasel! So we here in the USA could not look to our free and independent press to understand what all the violence was about. Eventually some brave websites published the cartoons. Understand how we here in USA have the luxury of chattering on a message board [note that in the year 2004 one baby was being murdered in the womb in the USA every 20 seconds=abortion=woman's right to choose] and jihadists elsewhere are getting angry and blowing up/torturing/beheading/etc. As I have shared before, the following Scripture came to me somewhat before USA's 2000 Presidential election: Hsa 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind:... Just read the Quran:e.g. Surah 4:157 denies the FACT of the Crucifixion of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ; other Surahs declare belief in God having a Son is blasphemy and will be punished by hell fire. Never mind that Islam rejects substitutionary atonement;they believe that Mohammad was given the final word of God/Allah by the "angel Gabriel". We know what Galatians 1:8-9 teaches and what 1 John teaches. When Our Lord Jesus was battling with Satan/devil for 40 days He did not try to find common ground so they could both get along. He rebuked the Satan/devil and we know the end of Satan/devil. Eternal torment. A smidge of a smidge given. Cannot really share much of anything on message boards. Been on several over the past 5 or so years:rules are tightening as to "offensive" posting. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ:hope The Holy Spirit has revealed just what He has and is suffering for us. How long on the Cross? Notice that the year is 2008 and we believe he has paid and does pay for all our sins. Ephesians 3:19. 1 John 2:2. Agape and peace, Ron... Edited November 18, 2008 by ajesuschrist_mathetes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted December 2, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 This topic had a little activity on Beliefnet>Multifaith Discussion>Apocalypse and End Times. Believe that The Holy Spirit has me posting there [though infrequently] is to share some of His teachings that I was led to and through over the last 27 years. Always all and everything, I pray, for The/our/my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ's sake only. Ron... http://community.beliefnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32165 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted December 9, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Billy Graham Evangelistic Association:I am sorry ... Was convicted of sin re Post #1 and including Billy Graham Evangelistic Association in the list of those going along with the "mush God" apostasia. Very wrong about that and ask all and everyone to forgive me. For probably my prideful judgementalism {i.e. who do YOU think you are, little Ron to judge giants out on the front lines facing war/hate from the Enemy Satan/devil? How well do you think YOU would do in their positions? Huh?} Me being a little guy have been so edified by BGEA and Billy Graham as an uncompromising Evangelist:Jesus Christ and Him Crucified. Come to the Cross. Anyone and everyone. The only way to be saved and eternal life. His blood. Only way to be forgiven. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Jesus Christ and Him Crucified. Come to the Cross. Anyone and everyone. The only way to be saved and eternal life. His blood. Only way to be forgiven. Amen! For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted December 10, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) I appreciate your zeal but I have not a clue as to what you are trying to say. Dear daystar: Tiny bit of background: Shortly after 9/11 The Holy Spirit led me to a mosque nearby me. I thought I knew enough about what Islam was, but wanted to get a Koran and find out for sure. The sheikh there was very kind and gave me a copy. So I generated the following file and started sharing that. By simple comparing Galatians 1:8-9 and 1 John, knowing Mohammad claimed to have received the Koran from the "angel Gabriel", we Christians know the source of the Koran. Christians and Moslems DO NOT worship the same God. Me as an intense student have been collecting articles like the one I started this chain with and carefully studying and praying about them. For years. We can see what is happening worldwide and how the truth of Islam cannot be stated without great damage. Suicide bombings, beheadings, worse. Converting from Islam to Christianity receiving the death penalty. John 8:44. Look at persecution.com [Voice of Martyrs web site]. Horrendous suffering in over 4 dozen countries resisting the Great Commission and the completion of it . Completion?-SOON we hope! Matthew 24:14 "perilous times"["fierce, hard to bear"] But what did Jesus say? Here are a few: ... Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. ... ... Luk 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and [in his] Father's, and of the holy angels. ... Titus 2:13 Ron... ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________ Some of Islam's teachings on:Jesus Christ, The Trinity, Jews, Jews and Christians December 10,2002 Subject SURA References ------------------------- -------------------- JESUS CHRIST : o Not Crucified iv:157 o Not The Son of God iv:171;ix:30; xix:35,88-92 o Not God v:19,75 (Hell fire for belief that He is) o Not part of The Trinity iv:171;v:76 o No more than an apostle iv:171;v:78 THE TRINITY: o "Say not . desist. will iv:171 be better for you" o Blasphemy v:76 o Grievous penalty v:76 JEWS : o Enmity to Islam v:85 JEWS AND CHRISTIANS : o Take them not as v:54 friends and protectors o God's curse be on them ix:30 ______________________________________________________ From "The Glorious Kur'an Translation and Commentary by Abdallah Yousuf Ali" [completed by 'ABDULLAH YUSUF 'ALI November 14, 1937; Preface to Third Edition dated 1938] [Obtained from Sheikh Muhammad Al-Hanooti on September 17, 2001 at: Islamic Center of Capitol District 21 Lansing Road North Schenectady, New York 12304 (518)-374-2364 (518)-395-9866 Islamic Ctr. School Bldg] [Note that the above Subjects come directly from the Index given in this Kur'an under: ...Blasphemy...Jesus...Jews...] *Islam regards the Kur'an as the final Word of God. * A Muslim is a follower of the Islamic faith. ------------------------------------------------------ Sura iv:157 page 230 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Apostle of God";- But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, But so it was made To appear to them, And those who differ Therein are full of doubts, With no (certain) knowledge, But only conjecture to follow, For of a surety They killed him not:- Sura iv:171 page 233-234 O People of the Book! Commit no excesses In your religion: nor say Of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary Was (no more than) An apostle of God, And His Word, Which He bestowed on Mary, And a Spirit proceeding From Him: so believe In God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: It will be better for you: For God is One God: Glory be to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above Having a son. To Him Belong all things in the heavens And on earth. And enough Is God as a Disposer of affairs. Sura v:19 page 246-247 In blasphemy indeed Are those that say That God is Christ The son of Mary. Say:"Who then Hath the least power Against God, if His Will Were to destroy Christ The son of Mary, his mother, And all-every one That is on the earth? For to God belongeth The dominion of the heavens And the earth, and all That is between. He createth What He pleaseth. For God Hath power over all things." Sura v:54 page 259-260 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews And the Christians For your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors To each other. And he Amongst you that turns to them (For friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not A people unjust. Sura v:75 page 266 They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son Of Mary" But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord And your Lord" Whoever Joins other gods with God,- God will forbid him The Garden, and the Fire Will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers Be no one to help. Sura v:76 page 266 They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity: for there is No god except One God. If they desist not From their word (of blasphemy), Verily a grievous penalty Will befall the blasphemers Among them. Sura v:78 page 266-267 Christ the son of Mary Was no more than An Apostle; many were The apostles that passed away Before him. His mother Was a woman of truth. They had both to eat Their (daily) food. See how God doth make His Signs clear to them; Yet see in what ways They are deluded Away from the truth! Sura v:85 page 268 Strongest among men in enmity To the Believers wilt thou Find the Jews and Pagans; And nearest among them in love To the Believers wilt thou Find those who say, "We are Christians": Because amongst these are Men devoted to learning And men who have renounced The world, and they Are not arrogant. Sura ix:30 page 448 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians Call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate What the Unbelievers of old Used to say. God's curse Be on them:how they are deluded Away from the Truth! Sura xix:35 page 774 It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God That He should beget A son. Glory be to Him! When He determines A matter, He only says To it, "Be", and it is. Sura xix:88-92 page 785-786 They say: "(God) Most Gracious Has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth A thing most monstrous! At it the skies are ready To burst, the earth To split asunder, and The mountains to fall down In utter ruin, That they should invoke A son for (God) Most Gracious. For it is not consonant With the majesty of (God) Most Gracious that He Should beget a son. Edited December 10, 2008 by ajesuschrist_mathetes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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