The Anti-Christ and Mr. Obama

[Rick-Parker]

I normally don't post the whole article, but I feel that I needed to with this one.I will post this in the politics politics forum so that more can read it. Sorry for the repetition.

The Anti-Christ And Mr. Obama

This Week's Feature Article by Jack Kelley

Since the election I've been asked a number of times to comment on the likelihood that Mr. Obama could be the anti-Christ. Let me begin by saying that having been elected President he's Mr. Obama now, not just Obama. As for him being the anti-Christ I've discouraged that thought because I don't believe it's time for the anti-Christ to be revealed yet. But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him. And based on the things we know about the anti-Christ there's a fit in several important places. The anti-Christ will have to burst on the scene quickly and powerfully to accomplish so much in the little time he has, so maybe he'll need a head start. If that's the case, maybe Mr. Obama is on his way to becoming the anti-Christ. Let's find out.

We know that the anti-Christ will be a descendant of the people who made up the Roman Empire in Biblical times (Daniel 9:26), and he'll arrive on the world scene as a peace maker (Daniel 8:25). He won't be part of the world's powerful elite at the beginning of his career (Daniel 7:8) but will rise up among them to eventually surpass them and become the leader of the entire world. (Rev. 13:7-8)

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power. (Daniel 8:25)

This means that he'll base his success on a lie, misrepresenting himself and his intentions, but people will want to believe him so badly that they'll disregard his inconsistencies until it's too late to stop him. Initially he'll seem successful, but just when they're saying "Peace and safety", destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains to a pregnant woman, and they won't escape (1 Thes. 5:3).

Deja Vu All Over Again?

Some of us remember when Jimmy Carter was elected President of the US. The country was fed up with Washington and even though he had no national leadership experience, we elected him because he was an outsider who promised change. He said he would never lie to us, but after the election it turned out that he had. He had misrepresented his background and didn't have the ability he needed when it came to governing. He said he was Christian and even orchestrated a land for peace deal between Israel and Egypt, but he proved to be anti-Israel. Soon we had a crisis in finance with interest rates at 20%, an energy crisis with our first gas shortages, and an administration that didn't know how to work with Congress to fix things. The Iranians captured our embassy and held our citizens hostage. Thankfully he lasted only one term.

Mr. Obama could easily turn out to be just another Jimmy Carter, and if so America will suffer through the next four years and then he'll be gone. But if he continues to be successful in convincing people all around the world that he's on the right track even though everything seems to be falling apart, it could be a different story.

If my calculations are correct, American Christians have just voted in our last presidential elections and won't be here to see if Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not. But someone with a lot more experience in accurately predicting the future has some interesting insight into the next few years. His name is Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he's renowned the world over for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events. He accurately predicted the 1987 Stock market crash, the Fall of the Soviet Union, the 1997 Asian currency collapse, the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and one year before the fact predicted what he said would become known as the Panic of 2008, saying that giants would tumble to their deaths, which is what we've just seen in the fall of several of our oldest and biggest financial firms, and with the big three auto makers teetering on the brink. (You can check his track record for yourself at www.trendsresearch.com )

Celente is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

According to his recent Fox News interview, called "Predicting Obama's Impact" (posted on YouTube on Nov. 10, 2008), by 2012 America will have become an undeveloped nation. There will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts.

"We're going to see the end of the retail Christmas

[MorningGlory]

For some time now certain people, Republican and Democrat alike, have been saying that Mr. Obama isn't legally qualified to be President because he's not a natural born citizen of the US. I won't go into the details but the point is that he could make this all go away by producing a legitimate birth certificate, something he's been unwilling to do. A Supreme Court Justice has reportedly given him until Dec. 1, 2008 to do so, and if he does then the Electoral College vote will be certified and he'll be the next President. But lawsuits in a dozen or so states have been or are being filed to prevent the certification until Mr. Obama proves he's qualified. If the courts throw out the election who knows what could happen.

This paragraph tells me about the author of this article.....for the simple reason that it perpertuates another lie. Who writes an article without checking facts? Supreme Court docket No. 08-570 gives Obama until 12/1/08 to respond to the case filing. They then will either go forward or dismiss the suit. The Supreme Court has not ordered that documents be presented nor does the electoral vote hinge upon it. Anyone can look up the actual court documents by googling the docket number. It's amazing that so few take the time to actually read it.

[Guest man]

It's amazing that so few take the time to actually read it.

Why take the time to look up the facts when it's easier to pick up a rock?

[MorningGlory]

Here we go - yet another round of "Pin The Tail On The Antichrist."

Yep....I think it's the first round today.

[Guest]

Here we go - yet another round of "Pin The Tail On The Antichrist."

I'm going to remember that line. Thanks.

[Rick-Parker]

I don't hear (read) anyone disputing the basic tenets of the article. Can we get past the Obama qualification thing and talk about the real subject. (Which is the relation of today's events and the timing of the End Times.)

[Rick-Parker]

I don't hear (read) anyone disputing the basic tenets of the article. Can we get past the Obama qualification thing and talk about the real subject. (Which is the relation of today's events and the timing of the End Times.)

Well, the "End Times" started 2000 (give or take) years ago on a hill outside of Jerusalem, so I would say Mr. Obama really didn't have a whole lot to do with it and I, for one, do not feel compelled to whip myself or anyone else into a Chicken Little frenzy over a highly questionable pseudo-prophetic paranoid fantasy.

And whom may I ask is doing that?

But let me rephrase my statement. "what is the relation of today's events and the timing of the appearance of the anti-christ or the end of the age? Try and be mature about your answer before you refer to a childrens' tale, ok?

[Rick-Parker]

Good enough.

[Axxman]

Oh goody...a bunch of Christians all pretending to know something about the 'end times.'

Your wrong...no, you're wrong...no, seriously, you're wrong...your all wrong, I'm right...no I'm right...no, you're wrong (keep re-reading that line and it will basically tell you how this thread goes)

Rick,

I found it interesting.

[johnnybigfish]

Oh goody...a bunch of Christians all pretending to know something about the 'end times.'

Your wrong...no, you're wrong...no, seriously, you're wrong...your all wrong, I'm right...no I'm right...no, you're wrong (keep re-reading that line and it will basically tell you how this thread goes)

Rick,

I found it interesting.

Dont forget now.....Theres gonna be alot of Christians fooled by the antichrist when he shows up...maybe you....maybe me.... But, regardless, this is how its gonna be, according to prophecy. I'm not a quoter of scripture by any means, but I know what I've read.

Seriously though, I dont think Obamas the one...But, what do I know?

And, another thing.....2012?..Things are sure looking like something crazy might happen, huh?..And, not to mention, as stated earlier. 2012 is when we can re-elect another president...And again,..what do I know?.....I was getting ready for Y2k

Well, there ya have it!

your friend,

john