angels4u Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2008 When Samuel met Saul after meeting with a Seer , Samuel talked to Saul and told him what was going to happen, Saul commited a sin by going to a seer, we know the story..........................could people in the O.T. come back after they died when they were called up by a seer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorywatch Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 692 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/02/1946 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We know for sure that on this one occasion God miraculously permitted the actual spirit of Samuel to speak to Saul and announce Saul's imminent death. (I Sam 28:12;19) Beyond this one example I cannot think of another story involving a witch summoning the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I've heard many interpretations of what happened with this. But one thing you need to consider... That the witch was afraid when Samuel appeared was evidence that what she saw was not what she expected to see. And when she saw Samuel, somehow she knew that the man who came to see her was Saul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 God clearly allowed saul to speak to samuel through a seer. most people think that this was an isolated miracle. i disagree. i believe it was an isolated incident where God allowed it, (but not an isolated incident of it happening without God's permission)... and saul's message wasn't a joyous one. there was another occasion where some of the apostles saw moses and elijah, after they were dead, but they did not have any personal contact with them... they just witnessed it. so i firmly believe that this is clear and biblical evidence of.... "ghosts", as most people would refer to them. however, over and over scripture warns believers about trying to communicate with the dead. and the fact that scripture so clearly indicates we are forbidden to make contact with the dead is further evidence that it is possible to do so.... but i believe in most instances where people think they are communicating with ghosts, it is actually a demon doing an impersonation. in any case, no matter how ya slice it, it's off limits for christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 God clearly allowed saul to speak to samuel through a seer. most people think that this was an isolated miracle. i disagree. i believe it was an isolated incident where God allowed it, (but not an isolated incident of it happening without God's permission)... and saul's message wasn't a joyous one. there was another occasion where some of the apostles saw moses and elijah, after they were dead, but they did not have any personal contact with them... they just witnessed it. so i firmly believe that this is clear and biblical evidence of.... "ghosts", as most people would refer to them. however, over and over scripture warns believers about trying to communicate with the dead. and the fact that scripture so clearly indicates we are forbidden to make contact with the dead is further evidence that it is possible to do so.... but i believe in most instances where people think they are communicating with ghosts, it is actually a demon doing an impersonation. in any case, no matter how ya slice it, it's off limits for christians. hmm interesting, I believe too that God allowed it ones as I know and know its a big NO NO for people to even dig in this, but I believe even if they would go into the occult it would NOT happen and the moders seer or whoever can NEVER talk to anybody who is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymba22 Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 588 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/14/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1967 Share Posted November 24, 2008 God clearly allowed saul to speak to samuel through a seer. most people think that this was an isolated miracle. i disagree. i believe it was an isolated incident where God allowed it, (but not an isolated incident of it happening without God's permission)... and saul's message wasn't a joyous one. there was another occasion where some of the apostles saw moses and elijah, after they were dead, but they did not have any personal contact with them... they just witnessed it. so i firmly believe that this is clear and biblical evidence of.... "ghosts", as most people would refer to them. however, over and over scripture warns believers about trying to communicate with the dead. and the fact that scripture so clearly indicates we are forbidden to make contact with the dead is further evidence that it is possible to do so.... but i believe in most instances where people think they are communicating with ghosts, it is actually a demon doing an impersonation. in any case, no matter how ya slice it, it's off limits for christians. I am in absolute complete agreement with LadyCs post. Particularly the bit about demons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted November 24, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2008 so i firmly believe that this is clear and biblical evidence of.... "ghosts", as most people would refer to them. however, over and over scripture warns believers about trying to communicate with the dead. and the fact that scripture so clearly indicates we are forbidden to make contact with the dead is further evidence that it is possible to do so.... but i believe in most instances where people think they are communicating with ghosts, it is actually a demon doing an impersonation. I completely agree with this, demons have been around for so long how could they not know what has taken place and who better to know about our departed loved ones? I have a friend who believes in ghosts but thankfully he now sees just how these 'ghosts' operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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