Did Jesus die for everyone?

[larryt]

Mt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

1Jo 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.

Just a couple of verses that have bearing on the topic. So what do you think, who did Jesus die for.

LT

[Deepblue]

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

[Guest]

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.

And let him that heareth say, Come.

And let him that is athirst come.

And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17

Of sin, because they believe not on me; John 16:9

[Guest shiloh357]

Did Jesus pay the debt for every sin of everyone?

It cannot be said that Jesus' finished work on the cross could be limited to paying only for the sins of a select few and be biblically accurate in the process. In oder to affect the delieverance of just one individual from sin and eternal separation from God, Jesus had to pay the penalty demanded by God's infinite Justice.

The penalty of sin is spiritual death and according to the Bible this death penalty hangs over the entire human race. The problem is that Jesus was not not just dying to save man, but also to satisfy the Father's justice and bring reconciliation. Thus, when Jesus died, he satisfied God's justice and took upon Himself the penalty for sin which hung over the entire human race. He had to satisfy God's justice against all mankind and paid the pentalty of sin which hangs over all of mankind.

[larryt]

Did Jesus pay the debt for every sin of everyone?

It cannot be said that Jesus' finished work on the cross could be limited to paying only for the sins of a select few and be biblically accurate in the process. In oder to affect the delieverance of just one individual from sin and eternal separation from God, Jesus had to pay the penalty demanded by God's infinite Justice.

The penalty of sin is spiritual death and according to the Bible this death penalty hangs over the entire human race. The problem is that Jesus was not not just dying to save man, but also to satisfy the Father's justice and bring reconciliation. Thus, when Jesus died, he satisfied God's justice and took upon Himself the penalty for sin which hung over the entire human race. He had to satisfy God's justice against all mankind and paid the pentalty of sin which hangs over all of mankind.

OK the premise is that Jesus DID pay the debt on every sin for every human being. Can I assume that even those that never heard about the Lord Jesus Christ, primitive tribes in So. America before Jim Elliot, aborigines in Australia, India, etc, that their debts have been paid?

LT

[Guest shiloh357]

Did Jesus pay the debt for every sin of everyone?

It cannot be said that Jesus' finished work on the cross could be limited to paying only for the sins of a select few and be biblically accurate in the process. In oder to affect the delieverance of just one individual from sin and eternal separation from God, Jesus had to pay the penalty demanded by God's infinite Justice.

The penalty of sin is spiritual death and according to the Bible this death penalty hangs over the entire human race. The problem is that Jesus was not not just dying to save man, but also to satisfy the Father's justice and bring reconciliation. Thus, when Jesus died, he satisfied God's justice and took upon Himself the penalty for sin which hung over the entire human race. He had to satisfy God's justice against all mankind and paid the pentalty of sin which hangs over all of mankind.

OK the premise is that Jesus DID pay the debt on every sin for every human being. Can I assume that even those that never heard about the Lord Jesus Christ, primitive tribes in So. America before Jim Elliot, aborigines in Australia, India, etc, that their debts have been paid?

LT

He paid the penalty that hung over all mankind. God's justice agains sin had to be satisfied. When Adam sinned, that sin was passed down to all of humanity. It was universal. All mankind is born spiritually separated from God.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--

(Romans 5:12)

God's justice was offended at the sin of all mankind and the penalty God's justice demanded is death. All of mankind is under the curse of death, what the Bible calls the curse of the law. Jesus removed that curse by paying the penalty for sin itself.

For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. (Romans 5:17-18)

[larryt]

Did Jesus pay the debt for every sin of everyone?

It cannot be said that Jesus' finished work on the cross could be limited to paying only for the sins of a select few and be biblically accurate in the process. In oder to affect the delieverance of just one individual from sin and eternal separation from God, Jesus had to pay the penalty demanded by God's infinite Justice.

The penalty of sin is spiritual death and according to the Bible this death penalty hangs over the entire human race. The problem is that Jesus was not not just dying to save man, but also to satisfy the Father's justice and bring reconciliation. Thus, when Jesus died, he satisfied God's justice and took upon Himself the penalty for sin which hung over the entire human race. He had to satisfy God's justice against all mankind and paid the pentalty of sin which hangs over all of mankind.

OK the premise is that Jesus DID pay the debt on every sin for every human being. Can I assume that even those that never heard about the Lord Jesus Christ, primitive tribes in So. America before Jim Elliot, aborigines in Australia, India, etc, that their debts have been paid?

LT

He paid the penalty that hung over all mankind. God's justice agains sin had to be satisfied. When Adam sinned, that sin was passed down to all of humanity. It was universal. All mankind is born spiritually separated from God.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--

(Romans 5:12)

God's justice was offended at the sin of all mankind and the penalty God's justice demanded is death. All of mankind is under the curse of death, what the Bible calls the curse of the law. Jesus removed that curse by paying the penalty for sin itself.

For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. (Romans 5:17-18)

OK. Can I conclude that you are saying that Jesus removed the curse on all men by paying the penalty for sin itself.

LT

[raleigh]

plain and simple"YES" reread post #2 (john 3:16.)

[OneLight]

Jesus paid the price for all sins on every man. It is up to those who have heard to believe. Jesus' death is not a free pass into heaven for those who reject Him. Those who never heard of God will be judged by God, for God knows the heart of all men.

I may buy you a ticket to an event, but you have to accept the ticket and the rules that are biding to the ticket in order to use it. If you don't , the ticket does you no good.

[Guest shiloh357]

Did Jesus pay the debt for every sin of everyone?

It cannot be said that Jesus' finished work on the cross could be limited to paying only for the sins of a select few and be biblically accurate in the process. In oder to affect the delieverance of just one individual from sin and eternal separation from God, Jesus had to pay the penalty demanded by God's infinite Justice.

The penalty of sin is spiritual death and according to the Bible this death penalty hangs over the entire human race. The problem is that Jesus was not not just dying to save man, but also to satisfy the Father's justice and bring reconciliation. Thus, when Jesus died, he satisfied God's justice and took upon Himself the penalty for sin which hung over the entire human race. He had to satisfy God's justice against all mankind and paid the pentalty of sin which hangs over all of mankind.

OK the premise is that Jesus DID pay the debt on every sin for every human being. Can I assume that even those that never heard about the Lord Jesus Christ, primitive tribes in So. America before Jim Elliot, aborigines in Australia, India, etc, that their debts have been paid?

LT

He paid the penalty that hung over all mankind. God's justice agains sin had to be satisfied. When Adam sinned, that sin was passed down to all of humanity. It was universal. All mankind is born spiritually separated from God.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--

(Romans 5:12)

God's justice was offended at the sin of all mankind and the penalty God's justice demanded is death. All of mankind is under the curse of death, what the Bible calls the curse of the law. Jesus removed that curse by paying the penalty for sin itself.

For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. (Romans 5:17-18)

OK. Can I conclude that you are saying that Jesus removed the curse on all men by paying the penalty for sin itself.

LT

Once God's justice was satisfied man is no longer under that curse. That does not mean all men are saved, but what it does mean is that there is no such thing as a limited atonement. Jesus did not pay for the sins of a select few, and leave the rest of humanity still imprisoned in sin. It simply doesn't work that way. What I am doing is showing the legal/forensic aspect of Jesus' work on the cross.