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  1. The will of the Father also includes our being baptized for the forgiveness of our sins, so that we can be saved and go to heaven. In Mark 16:16 Jesus says, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned." This is such a simple command to obey in the way the Lord says to do it. Notice the divine order: 1) Believe + 2) Baptism = 3) Saved. Jesus says that both belief and baptism are required to be saved. But men, at the prompting of Satan, are trying to tell us many other different things that are contrary to what Jesus says. Men have taken what the Lord said, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved," and have changed it in every way possible to suit themselves. The following is what Jesus says and also ways in which man has tried to change what the Lord has said. 1) As we have just seen Jesus says in Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." 2) There are those who in reality say that, "He that does not believe and is not baptized will be saved," because they say God is going to save everyone. This is the Universalist who says that everyone is going to be saved and no one is going to be lost. We know this is not true because of what our Lord said in Matthew 7:13-14, that many are going to be lost and only few are going to be saved. 3) Then there are others who essentially say that, "He who believes and is baptized will not be saved." They say that no one is going to be saved. This is the Atheist who says that there is not going to be an eternity and that when you are dead, you are like the dog Rover, you are dead all over. But again we know that this is false. We have already seen that few will be saved, but the majority will be lost. 4) Still others imply that, "He who does not believe but is baptized will be saved." These are those who practice infant baptism, but an infant certainly cannot believe. Of course an infant is not accountable but is innocent and is not lost. 5) Then there are also those who essentially say that, "He who believes and is not baptized will be saved." They are trying to tell us that we are saved by faith only and that baptism is not necessary to be saved, but all that you have to do is believe. Again, like the other three, this is contrary to what the Lord has said in Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved." On the day of judgment we are only going to be judged by what the Lord says and not by what we think. Who are you following? Are you following 1) Jesus, 2) the Universalist, 3) the Atheist, 4) those promoting infant baptism, or 5) those promoting faith only? We can go to heaven only by following what Jesus says and not what man says. The following chart shows what the Lord has said and also the many ways that men have tried to change it. They have changed it every way possible to suit themselves. 1) Jesus in Mark 16:16 says: Believe + Baptized = Saved 2) Universalist says: Not Believe + Not Baptized = Saved 3) Atheist says: Believe + Baptized = Not Saved 4) Infant Baptism says: Not Believe + Baptized = Saved 5) Faith Only says: Believe + Not Baptized = Saved Our Lord said in Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." But there are those who want to ignore what Jesus said in the first half of the verse and only look at the latter half. They do this in an attempt to try to manufacture a loophole in what the Lord has said. They are not willing to accept that Jesus says we must believe and be baptized to be saved. Jesus could not make it any clearer what one has to do to be saved. In the later half of the verse Jesus says "but he who does not believe will be condemned." But there are those who say that Jesus did not say you would be condemned if you were not baptized. People who say this are grasping at straws in trying to avoid what the Lord who is our only Saviour requires. But people are doing this to their own eternal destruction. One who does not believe will certainly not be baptized. One who does not believe could go through the motions and get dunked under the water, but he would not be scripturally baptized. He would only get wet. Since one who does not believe could not be scripturally baptized, it would have been useless for the Lord to have mentioned baptism in the latter half of the verse. People may argue against the Lord's requirement of being baptized in order to be saved, but they will not be able to argue with the Lord when they stand before Him on the Day of Judgment. It will be too late then. When we stand before the Lord on the day of judgment to be judged by Him, there are going to be many who have chosen not to do what the Lord has said. Rather they have chosen to do what man has said to do. Romans 10:3 tells us that people are "Seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God." The choice is ours. Either we have tried to establish our own righteousness or we have submitted to the righteousness of God. Unless we are forgiven the way that Jesus Christ has specified in the Bible then we will die in our sins and be forever lost and forever separated from God in eternal punishment. We make the decision; but we will reap the eternal consequences. Are you ready for those consequences? The Lord says in John 12:48, "The word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day." We are not going to be judged by what man says or by what we think, but by what our Lord says. This is going to be the standard for judgment. For the majority of people, the judgment will be a horrible day, and a day of many terrible surprises. Obedience to our Lord will save any lost person, no matter how evil his past has been, but obedience to a mere human doctrine will not save anyone, no matter how good they have been. Speaking of Christ, Hebrews 5:9 says, "And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all them that obey Him." Yes, we must obey our Lord, if we expect Him to save us. Baptism is not a work of merit that man does. We do nothing for God when we are baptized, except obey Him; but God does something for us. Baptism is God’s chosen way of imparting His saving grace. Baptism is the submission to the command of God that saves. As we read in Acts 10:48, "And He commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord." God offers salvation to all men, but He conditions that offer with obeying the requirements which He has set out in His word. The Lord has commanded us to be baptized. The Lord has no nonessential commands. In Hebrews 5:9 we saw that no man can be saved by the grace of God without being obedient to the will of God. Believing and being baptized to be saved, as Mark 16:16 says, does not nullify the grace of God, but it activates it. The fact that baptism is essential to our salvation in no way reflects upon the wonderful grace offered to all; but rather it honors Christ who commanded it. Baptism is a very serious matter. According to the Bible, baptism is for the purpose of salvation. In the Garden of Eden God told Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God said in Genesis 2:17, "For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." But later in Genesis 3:4 Satan told Eve, "You will not surely die." Satan just added the one word "not" and perverted what God had said. This is what men are doing today. Jesus said in Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Men today erroneously teach "He that believes and is not baptized shall be saved." By adding the word "not" men today are perverting the word of God just as Satan did. Satan does not want anyone to be baptized for the purpose of being saved. Satan tells people that after you think you are saved and your sins are forgiven then you can be baptized. But this is a lie of Satan which will cause many people to be lost. But Jesus promised salvation only to those who believe and are baptized. We cannot afford to be wrong on this vital point. Our eternal destiny depends on our being right with God. n the second chapter of Acts, Peter had convicted the people there of having killed the Son of God. In verse 37 their question was, "Men and brethren what shall we do?" In verse 38 (KJV), "Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins." Here people were told to repent and be baptized for the remission of their sins. Only when we submit to baptism as the Lord has commanded, that is for the remission of sins to be saved, do we show our faith in the Lord. Only then will He save us. Man today has a sin problem. It is our sins that separate us from God. We are to repent and be baptized for the remission of our sins. This is God's instruction on how we solve our sin problem. In the above verse, when Peter told them to "Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins," whatever repentance is for in that verse, baptism is for the same reason. Repent and be baptized are joined by the coordinating conjunction and, which joins words of equal grammatical importance. Certainly Acts 2:38 does not teach that lost people are to repent because they have already received forgiveness of their sins. Neither does it teach that lost people are to be baptized because their sins are already forgiven. Satan would like you to believe that baptism has nothing to do with the forgiveness of your sins. Have you been baptized for the remission of your sins? Again, the choice is yours; either believe what God has said and be saved, or believe what men say and you will continue to be lost. We only have two choices, and the choice that we make will have eternal consequences. But please make the right choice. In the book of Acts we have the account of the conversion of the Apostle Paul. In Acts chapter 9, Paul is traveling on the road up to Damascus to persecute Christians. The Lord appears to Paul on the road and strikes him blind. In verse 5 he tells Paul, "I am Jesus whom you are persecuting." In verse 6 Paul asks, "Lord what do you want me to do? Then the Lord said to him (Paul), Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." The Lord did not tell Paul what he must do, but that someone in the city would tell him what he must do. In Acts 9:9, after Paul went into the city, "And he was three days without sight, and neither ate nor drank." Paul was worried sick and very upset. He had just found out that all the years in his zeal, while persecuting the Lord's church, he had actually been persecuting the Lord. Paul was devastated and broken-hearted in finding out that he had been wrong all these years. Let's see now what Paul was told what he must do. In Acts chapter 22, a man named Ananias, who was sent by the Lord, came to Paul and miraculously restored Paul's eyesight. Notice what Paul was told by Ananias what he must do. Acts 22:16, "And now why are you waiting? Arise, and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Paul was not saved three days earlier while on the road to Damascus, as some people would like for us to believe. Paul up to this point was still lost, because he still had all his sins that needed to be washed away. Paul still had a sin problem. Obedience to the Lord's command to be baptized was necessary to wash away Paul's sins. At the point of baptism every sin that we have ever committed will be taken away, if it is done for that purpose. Have you been baptized for the purpose of having your sins washed away? If you have not, then you still have a sin problem. You are still lost. Paul was not told "to pray the sinners prayer and ask Jesus to come into his heart in order to be saved." This is foreign to the scripture. You cannot find anywhere in the Bible where anyone was ever told to do this. Since God in the Bible has never told anyone "To pray and ask Jesus to come into your heart in order to be saved", who else but men could have come up with such an idea? Forgiveness occurs in the mind of God and not on the basis of man's feeling in his heart. Only when we have done what God has said that we must do, will God forgive our sins. We cannot devise our own plan as to how our sins are to be forgiven. Do not misunderstand. We do not "earn" our salvation by being baptized. Salvation is a gift from God. Even though salvation is a free gift from God, he has laid down certain conditions upon which he will give it. One condition to receive his gift is faith: Hebrews 11:6, "But without faith it is impossible to please Him." Another condition of his free gift is repentance: Luke 13:3, "Unless you repent you will all likewise perish." Another condition is baptism: Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Still another condition is living a faithful Christian life: Revelation 2:10, "Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life." The conditions include doing all "the will of the Father," Matthew 7:21. These are God's conditions. Believing in God and Christ with all our heart, repenting of all our sins, confessing Christ and being baptized are all equally important to our salvation. If any of these are lacking, then we will not be saved. You can't have one without the others. There is nothing that we can do to merit salvation. Whether it be believing in Jesus or being baptized, we can never "earn our salvation". The only way we can show our faith in Christ is if we are willing to accept and obey what He says. But it is in baptism that God has chosen to impart his wonderful grace of salvation to us as a willing believer. According to the Bible, it is at the point of baptism, that we pass from an unsaved state into a saved state. In other words, at the time of baptism, we go from being unsaved to being saved. We read in I Peter 3:21 (KJV), "The like figure whereunto even baptism does also now save us." The Bible says that "baptism does now also save us," but men say that "baptism does not save us." This is very similar to the situation of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. God in Genesis 2:17 told them not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, "For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." But Satan told Eve in Genesis 3:4, "Then the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die." Satan only added the one word "not" to what God had said and completely changed the meaning. That is what men are doing to God's commands today. Who are you going to accept, the word of men or the Word of God? We are told in Acts 5:29, "We ought to obey God rather than men." On the Day of Judgment, the Bible will still say that "baptism does also now save us." Again the choice is yours, but it is very serious. We dare not make the wrong choice. Also, notice that it is baptism that puts us into Christ so that we can be saved. Galatians 3:27, "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." This is the only way a person can get into Christ. The preposition into indicates a change of relationship. You can search from the front to the back of your Bible, and you will find no other way to get into Christ except by being baptized into Christ. Also Romans 6:3 says the same thing, "Or do you not know, that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" So the only way we can get into Christ is to be baptized into Christ. Either a person has been baptized into Christ, or he is still outside of Christ. We are either in or we are out. Have you been baptized into Christ in order to be saved and have your sins forgiven? If you haven’t been, let us notice some of the things that you are missing. 1) Ephesians 1:3 says, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in heavenly places in Christ." This verse tells us that every spiritual blessing is located in Christ. Only those who are in Christ can enjoy these spiritual blessings. Since this verse says that every spiritual blessing is in Christ, then there can be no spiritual blessings for those who are outside of Christ. If you have not been baptized into Christ, you are still outside of Christ, and you are not entitled to any spiritual blessings. The Lord arranged it that way and no man has the right to change it. 2) Romans 8:1 says, "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." On the day of judgment those who are in Christ will not be condemned; but those who are outside of Christ will be condemned. We go from being condemned to being forgiven when we are baptized into Christ. If you have not been baptized into Christ, then you will suffer eternal condemnation. 3 & 4) Only those who are in Christ have been redeemed and forgiven of their sins. Ephesians 1:7 says, "In Him we have redemption, through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace." since redemption and forgiveness of sins are located in Christ, those who have not been baptized into Christ have not been redeemed and still have every sin they have ever committed. The scriptures are so clear that a person needs help to misunderstand it. Are you still outside of Christ? You do not have to stay outside of Christ. 5) Next we read II Corinthians 5:17, "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation: old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." If one is in Christ, he has become a new creation. He has a new beginning in life, and his "slate has been wiped clean" since he has been forgiven of all his sins and has become a new saved person. Although, if you are outside of Christ, you are still an old sinful creature. You still have all of your sins and are without hope. When is it that one becomes a new creation? Romans 6:3-4 says, "Or do you not know, that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore, we were buried with Him through baptism into death: that just as Christ Jesus was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." When is one raised to walk in newness of life? This scripture says that it is when we are raised out of the waters of baptism. At that point we begin our walk in newness of life. Newness of life does not begin until after baptism. In John 3:3 Jesus told Nicodemus, "Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Then two verses later in John 3:5, Jesus tells how being born again takes place: "Unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." Our Lord is very emphatic in what he says. No man has the power or authority to repeal what our Lord has said. Nor does anyone have the authority to rationalize it away and teach otherwise. Jesus said that we must be born of water and the Spirit. Jesus said that being born again must not only include the Spirit, but it must include water. Here we see that when one is baptized in water, he is raised to walk in newness of life, becoming a new creature, and thus he has been born again. Are you still an old sinful creature or have you become a new creature by being baptized into Christ? 6) The Apostle Paul says in II Timothy 2:10, "Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory." Here we see that salvation is located in Christ, and for one to be eligible for salvation, he must be in Christ. If you are not in Christ, by being baptized into Christ, you have no hope or promise of salvation. It will be a horrible thing for a person, who thinks he is saved, when he stands before the Lord on the day of judgment, if he is still outside of Christ. He will have no salvation. He will be lost eternally in Hell. 7) In I John 5:11 we read, "And this is the testimony, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son." So according to the inspired word of God, eternal life is located in His Son, Jesus Christ. Only those in Christ have been promised eternal life. Those who are outside of Christ have no promise of eternal life. So what does that leave them? It leaves them only eternal punishment, which is a sad condition. My heart bleeds for them, because I don’t want to see anyone lost. But how can you get people to wake up to the truth of God’s word? The following chart sums up what we have been discussing concerning the advantages of being in Christ. As we have seen, it is baptism that puts us into Christ (Rm 6:3, Gal 3:27) so that we can enjoy all of these spiritual blessings which are in Christ. Where on the chart are you actually located? Outside of Christ or inside of Christ? Not where you would like to be located, but where are you actually located at this time, depending on whether you have been baptized into Christ or not. If you were baptized for the remission of sins in order to be saved then you were baptized into Christ. But if your baptism was not for the remission of sins and not to be saved, then you are still outside of Christ. If you are outside of Christ, you have no spiritual blessings, no redemption, no forgiveness of sins; you will be condemned on the day of judgment; you are still an old sinful creature; you have no hope of salvation and no hope of eternal life. As Ephesians 2:12 says, "That at the time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world." Could a situation get any more desperate than having no hope and being without God? This is the situation of those who are outside of Christ. If you thought you were saved when you accepted Christ as you personal savior, and then later you were baptized, then your baptism was not to save you. You thought you were already saved before baptism, but you are still lost because the baptism that puts us into Christ also saves us. If you thought that your sins were taken away before baptism, when you accepted Christ as your personal savior, then your baptism was not for the purpose of forgiveness of sins. You still have every sin you have ever committed and are still separated from God. I hope that my explanation above explains everything. And here, is the explanation for the thief on the cross: Those who teach the doctrine of salvation by faith only frequently point to the thief on the cross that appealed to Jesus in his last moments. They claim that the thief was saved by faith without the need of being baptized or of any other work of righteousness. They go on to contend that since the thief was never baptized and that since he was promised a place in paradise that New Testament Christians likewise can be saved by faith alone. Those who claim this fail to realize that there is not one verse of scripture that supports the assumption that the thief was not baptized. The thief knew who Jesus was and that He was innocent, (Luke 23:41). The thief appealed to Jesus calling Him “Lord” and the thief knew Jesus was coming into a kingdom that belonged to Him, (Luke 23:42). This man knew that even though he and Jesus were going to die, there was something beyond the cross for both of them. That is a lot of information for someone who has not been baptized to possess. Great multitudes of people had been taught and baptized prior to Jesus’ crucifixion, (Mark 1:4-5; Luke 3:21). It is entirely possible this man had been baptized prior this event. Scripture teaches that when Jesus died on the cross His new covenant or testament came into force, (Hebrews 9:15-17). Jesus had not yet died on the cross when the thief made his appeal. This was not the first time Jesus forgave the sins of others before He died. In Matthew 9:6; Mark 2:10 and Luke 5:24 we read of Jesus demonstrating His power on earth to forgive sins. This was the account of the man with the palsy who had been let down through a hole in the roof into the presence of Jesus. Jesus not only healed this man but He forgave his sins as well. Hanging on the cross, moments from death, Jesus still had the same power to save a lost individual who had appealed to Him. The thief on the cross, having been saved before Jesus died, was saved under the old covenant, not the new. It is not possible for anybody today to be saved before Jesus died on the cross. Was the thief really saved by faith only? One must ask, would he have been saved if he had never made his appeal to Jesus? Would faith alone in his heart have been enough without anything else? In Luke 23:40 the thief openly rebuked his counterpart saying “Dost not thou fear God”? This man knew who God was and knew he was to be feared more than dying on that cross. That is a demonstration of faith in God. In verse 41 the thief acknowledged that they were receiving their just rewards for their deeds and he further proclaimed that Jesus was innocent. Repentance is contrition of heart that manifests itself in a change of action. The thief knew he was condemned, knew he was at fault and he knew there were consequences beyond the death that awaited him. This man regretted his former actions and this regret compelled him to change the way he was acting towards Jesus. Matthew 27:44 records that, at first, both of them were reviling Jesus. This man repented and Jesus accepted this mans repentance after having earlier been publicly reviled by him. The significance of this cannot be overstated. One of the terms of salvation today is repentance. Luke recorded the words of Jesus in chapter 13:3 (Luke 13:3) saying “unless ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Would the thief have been saved without his repentance? In Luke 23:42 the thief made an appeal directly to Jesus addressing him as “Lord.” In Luke 12:8 we see Jesus saying “Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God”. This man knew who Jesus was and addressed him as Lord before everyone present including the other thief. The thief also asked Jesus to remember him when He came into His kingdom. This man was appealing to Jesus, a condemned man, hanging naked on a cross, gasping out his last breaths on this earth, for help. He recognized the hopeless lost state he was in and he turned to the only source of help alive on earth and found it. He found mercy just like the publican who begged for it in Luke 18:3. Can you imagine how comforting those words Jesus spoke to him at that time must have been? “Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” The thief on the cross repented, he acknowledged Jesus as Lord and asked for mercy. Was he really saved by faith only? Jesus taught in Matthew 7:21, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven”. Jesus further taught that those who do His will are building their houses on a foundation of rock which can not be shaken, (Luke 6:47-48). The thief on the cross knew who Jesus was while he was hanging with him at Calvary. But he wasn’t saved until after he gave the proper response to his faith. Unless you people continue to stubbornly hold on to your beliefs despite hard evidence here, you guys have no hope. To those of you who say you people will never change your heart, you people are fools. I have so many verses to explain that my gospel is the only gospel, yet, you people foolishly cling onto your old beliefs with poorly used verses. GIVE UP! How do you expect me to humble myself and allow the spirit to take work in me? The spirit is taking work in me, that's why I'm here! Instead of being rebellious idiots, read and accept, instead of vainly assuring yourselves with verses that contradict only a little of the verses I show.
  2. Really? John 3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. I would suggest you study with a good companion bible. besides, people usually are so adamant about their beliefs because their church, friends, study buddies believe the same. I can show you your error of 1 Peter 3:2 and you will jump to something else. that's the way people are. I can say that tithing is an act of obedience and someone else will say that tithing is not required. But at the end you will see that everyone is influenced by who they follow or have followed. Anyone that believes in baptism probably has a church night when they baptize others. If one does not believe in that then their church does not. that's the way it is. Here you have, in hard truth and in evidence that you have to be "baptized" to be saved. Instead of providing a counter-example, you have instead rambled on meaninglessly. You, my friend, is adamant in your beliefs. John 3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. These verses are explanation enough. Unless you can provide a legitimate counter-example to these verses, unless you can provide a legitimate explanation to these verses, your ramblings about "people usually are so adamant about their beliefs because their church..." which you have repeatedly said, mean nothing. Assumptions will not convince anyone.
  3. Not necessarily. It is true that while nothing can take away our salvation from him, it depends on what kind of faith we have, and whether we want to keep our salvation. In no scripture have I heard that God "does not take returns on his gift" and you are making it seem like being sealed with the Holy Spirit means that we will have salvation forever. Being sealed with the holy spirit means that you are marked as a Christian and shows that we are saved. It guarantees that we are saved, but it doesn't guarantee that we are saved forever. For proof, Ephesians 1 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, does not show that God "does not take returns on his gift". 1 Peter 3:15, only tells us to: sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear nothing about never losing salvation. Ephesians 1 verse 6 only tells us to: 6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. nothing about never losing salvation. In any case, use the verses more accurately, my friend.
  4. My gosh, had you read anything that I said to you? God was not looking upon the sin that John passed to Jesus. He was looking upon the act of righteousness, he was pleased with his son for "fulfilling all righteousness" (quoted from the verse). And must I explain it again? John 3 Jesus Teaches Nicodemus 1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him." 3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.[a]" 4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" 5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You[c] must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." The sin was passed on to Jesus' FLESH. Not his spirit. Although he is God, he had the body of men, and the temptations of men. Don't make me go over this, I have verses to prove so, and I am sure you people know that Jesus was tempted at at least one point in his life. When he was on the cross, judged for OUR sins, not his, God was "pleased to crush him" (quoted) because it was then that he saw the flesh side of Jesus. HIS peace to YOU
  5. So many false doctrines. So many things that I must explain and counter-explain. In fact, let's start with this. For those of you that have opposed the gospel of Jesus' baptism, have you not read other sermons in the website? They have provided many verses as evidence, I do not even want to go to the trouble of explaining it myself, as it is already explained by other people. Read this: http://www.bjnewlife.org/english/bstudy/faq_25.php Sure, the bible says that whoever proclaims Jesus to be their Lord will be saved, but I repeat (and I hope this will be the last time), it depends which Jesus you are proclaiming. To be saved, you have to believe in the right things. The Jesus that you proclaim to be your Lord may just be a twisted version. The Muslims believe in Jesus, but they think that Jesus is merely a deciple. Are they saved? No they are not. Same goes with you people. Arrogantly, you have been claiming to pray for me. However, I have been praying for you people all along. I pray for you people to repent. You say that Jesus pleased the Lord at the baptism. Yes he did, because he had fulfilled all righteousness. Go back, read the sermon I provided you, 7 posts before this one. I will not explain what has already been explained. As I said many times before and what you guys are not doing, clearly just skimming the sermons, read everything. It is impossible for you people to read and understand and not be changed.
  6. Please read the previous posts. You will see why I have accused him as "not saved". As I said, read everything.
  7. Then you are not saved. As you demand proof, I give you proof: http://www.bjnewlife.org/english/bstudy/sermons_05.php In that page, it will show that John did indeed had that power as he was appointed as the representative of mankind (Matthew 11:10-11) and that he did pass all of our sins onto Jesus (Matthew 3:15). Read the website for the entire explanation. Jesus was sinless, but his flesh was not. When he was crucified, the flesh was destroyed along with sin. Do you have anything else to say? Any questions to ask? Any point to make?
  8. Then congratulations. If you have read everything that I have posted, and agree with everything that I have deplored, than you are truly saved. If so, please spread the gospel that I am teaching. You have stated nothing that disagrees with any Chrisitan teaching I have read or heard (I say "Christian" in separation of false doctrine) I will continue to teach what the Bible states. As you quoted, "I by my works will show you my faith" which is the cruxt of what John wrote. IF one has faith, than they will have works also. Being here, speaking well of JESUS is the work that shows salvation. But do you know what Jesus' baptism was for?
  9. Then congratulations. If you have read everything that I have posted, and agree with everything that I have deplored, than you are truly saved. If so, please spread the gospel that I am teaching.
  10. What you guys are missing is the knowledge of Jesus baptism. By now, you guys should know that faith alone is dead. That you have to be careful in what you believe in, and what you believe in must be supported by the bible. You guys must also know that we cannot obey even one commandment, not any of us.You guys should also know that many the phenomenons (speaking in tongues, prophesying, etc.) that people claim to have experienced are manipulations from the devil, as they do not believe in the right gospel. The devil is deceiving them. And yet, many of the verses in the bible tell us to be perfect, sinless, to strive to be like Christ, even though we can never be and that such efforts are in vain. Verses in the bible tell us to be baptized to be saved, causing much confusion, as people are disillusioned by the verses of the bible. This is what I want you guys to know, after debating so long about salvation. The baptism of Jesus marks the time when John the Baptist sent all of our sins (past,present and future) to him, meaning that we do not have to pray in repentance to every sin we commit to be saved. It means that because of this, we are sinless and holy, free from sin, even if we do sin. What about John 1? you ask. http://www.bjnewlife.org/english/bstudy/sermons_09.php This website here will explain everything about the gospel that I am trying to preach. www.bjnewlife.org From here on out, my work here is done. I ask of all of you to go the the website and read the e-books provided there.
  11. If that was the case, I would have no need of saving and explaining. But look closely at: James Chapter 2 2:1My brothers, don't hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ of glory with partiality. 2:2For if a man with a gold ring, in fine clothing, comes into your assembly, and a poor man in filthy clothing also comes in; 2:3and you pay special attention to him who wears the fine clothing, and say, "Sit here in a good place;" and you tell the poor man, "Stand there," or "Sit by my footstool;" 2:4haven't you shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? 2:5Listen, my beloved brothers. Didn't God choose those who are poor in this world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he promised to those who love him? 2:6But you have dishonored the poor man. Don't the rich oppress you, and personally drag you before the courts? 2:7Don't they blaspheme the honorable name by which you are called? 2:8However, if you fulfill the royal law, according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well. 2:9But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors. 2:10For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he has become guilty of all. 2:11For he who said, "Do not commit adultery," said also, "Do not commit murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 2:12So speak, and so do, as men who are to be judged by a law of freedom. 2:13For judgment is without mercy to him who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. 2:14What good is it, my brothers, if a man says he has faith, but has no works? Can faith save him? 2:15And if a brother or sister is naked and in lack of daily food, 2:16and one of you tells them, "Go in peace, be warmed and filled;" and yet you didn't give them the things the body needs, what good is it? 2:17Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead in itself. 2:18Yes, a man will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. 2:19You believe that God is one. You do well. The demons also believe, and shudder. 2:20But do you want to know, vain man, that faith apart from works is dead? 2:21Wasn't Abraham our father justified by works, in that he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 2:22You see that faith worked with his works, and by works faith was perfected; 2:23and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness;" and he was called the friend of God. 2:24You see then that by works, a man is justified, and not only by faith. 2:25In like manner wasn't Rahab the prostitute also justified by works, in that she received the messengers, and sent them out another way? 2:26For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead. There is much much more to salvation as you think. The websites I have provided, the sermons I beg you guys to watch and read, can explain how to be saved better than me. I am merely a servant of the greater good. Am I a false prophet? Let me tell you what. A false prophet tells you what you want to hear, and make you jump up on your feet. But a true prophet tells you the truth, as the person that loves you the most tells you the most truth, which was why Jesus, Paul and the apostles were persecuted and killed. I don't want to be unpopular by telling people this. It takes a lot of courage to tell other Christians, even those several years older than me, that they are wrong and are going to hell. I'm not old. Trying to preach to your own pastor isn't easy. I'm still in high school, but I'm trying my best to spread the gospel in my own church, across the internet and across the school. Please, go be saved. I'm not saying this for the sake of scaring you. Read John 1 & 2. It will make you fall on your knees and beg for mercy. You might say that God is a God of love, and that he loves us. Yes, that is true. But in the bible, in James, Paul, Revelations, especially John 1 & 2, there is no mention of him being a God of love. Even old testament tells us that God crushed many people without mercy. God is love, right? You will tell me that. But, its because he is love, he hates. For example, I love babies, that's why I hate abortion. It's the same thing. God loves, but he hates sin, and people who ignore/disobey/rebel against him. Even in the Revelations, in his letter to the church of Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22), he threatens to spit them out, to expel them out of his family(salvation) as they believe in the wrong things (lukewarm) and God, who sees this, prefers that they didn't believe in him at all (cold). Many of the verses in the bible state this. That is why many of the self-proclaimed Christians: will go to hell. Verses have double meanings. God says that as long as you believe in Jesus, you are saved. But, what part of Jesus to you believe in? Do you believe that he died on the cross, and because of that knowledge, you are saved? Go back and read James Chapter 2:19. Even the demons know Jesus died on the cross, and they shudder. They are not saved. Same thing. Are you really confessing Jesus among men? The Jesus you are confessing may not be Jesus. The gospel you are proclaiming is twisted and wrong. Do not be stubborn. The fools are stubborn, the wise see and follow. Baptism. Go back and read my previous posts, no. Go read what the website says, they will prove the opposite. This website will explain, thoroughly how to be saved, and provides many verses that support their cause: http://www.bible.ca/interactive/salvation-interactive.htm The sermon that changed my life: *edit Links*
  12. The salvation is not supposed to be a puzzle. But it is, to people who stubbornly refuse the knowledge. You are pathetically, like other users, say, that I am a false prophet with empty words. Let me tell you this. The fact that I am saying that "you must do it this way to be saved" is true. You have to do it this way to be saved. After all, didn't you become a Christian in the same way? After all, you had to PRAY it in THIS way to be saved with OTHER CHRISTIANS. After all, an Indian cannot teach Christianity, I cannot stress this enough. Yes, if you just get wrong part of the doctrine wrong, you are not saved. Wasn't it the same with the ten commandments? If you break just a small part of the commandments, you have broken it. Just by looking at another woman/man, you have already committed adultery in your heart. This IS the same thing. 1 Corinthians Chapter 6 9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. What does the verse mean? It means that people who have spent their entire lives believing the wrong thing, speaking in tongues falsely, prophesying falsely, will one day find themselves in front of God who will declare, "I never knew you." Yes- Christ is the only way to salvation. But what you guys do not know is HOW Christ is the only way to salvation. Go read, and watch, lest you be thrown into hell. REPENT! FOR THE END IS NEIGH!
  13. No you see, go to the link and read everything. Salvation is something that many Christians get wrong, which is the most important thing after all. The website that I have given all of you is for all of you to test your salvation, and see if you are really saved. How can one get salvation wrong if they study scripture? Are you saying that there is a test to take or are we to go through all the lessons to see if we agree with the teacher or not? You need to explain your point better. Sometimes I am amused by the non-sense. IF there is one thing I am absolutely certain of, it is that any church that state "you must be baptised to be saved" is usually going to back that up with "and we are the only church that can baptise you". Something I here from every cult in America. Since I was baptised, it is a mute point to me if you "must be baptised" or not. I do not know anyone who has been saved who rejects the first act of obedience and sign of salvation. I glanced at the sight and at a couple of the posts. That was enough. James, John and Paul all give us guideline to know if we are saved, none of them ever mention baptism as a requirement. "By grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not of yourself, it is the gift of GOD" Read everything the website posts. Yes, people can get salvation wrong even if they study scripture. It doesn't mean that you're a Christian if you just read the book can you? Follow the 25 steps to determine, whether you are truly saved or not. The explanation is the website. You cannot be lazy and abandon your salvation, read everything. Naturally. If lets say you are a Christian, and you want to be baptized, you can't necessarily be baptized by an Indian, can you? And if that is your argument, isn't Christianity a kind of cult too? Only a Christian can teach a Christian, the same way a cult member can lead a cult member. Same goes with this. Yes- no one who rejects the first act of obedience is saved, but the first act of obedience isn't enough. Knowing isn't believing, and yet, you are rejecting the knowledge. Read the website. The reason why I am posting this website is not to be saved, but to saved. Look again. The Bible is big, and there are many verses that support baptism. < 1 Peter 3:20-22 > "A few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. There is also an antitype which now saves us, namely baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him." <John 3:1-6> "There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, 'Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.' Jesus answered and said to him, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.' Nicodemus said to Him, 'How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?' Jesus answered, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.'" These verses are to name but a few. The website names MUCH MUCH more. Study it, read it, and go. (And yes, by the grace of God we are saved, and yet: Matthew Chapter 7 A Tree and Its Fruit 15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' the Lord has no patience for those who believe in the wrong thing. Grace, was when Jesus was baptized and crucified for our sake. But grace does not mean we are saved no matter what.) TO ALL OF YOU THAT ARE READING THIS, I know that this is not what you want to hear. But, Matthew Chapter 7 The Narrow and Wide Gates 13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. from this verse, you should know that salvation is not to be made light of. Once again, I must implore. My mission here is to spread the truth. Just like John Washer is doing: ***Edit inks**** I recommend you to watch his sermon too. May we, the Christians restoring the light, spread the gospel. Let the people hear and be saved.
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