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And now we are back to forgiveness based on if other people can see we are obedient. There are plenty of threads on this, so I guess I will leave it alone. Just been told some things that have gotten in my head about how I am not good enough to even read my bible.

This "literal war", and "believing" vs "BELIEVING", is what i can understand, my question is on how this can be explained, and i use this just for an example, of say an alcoholic accepting Jesus, yet continually struggling with alcoholism. There are threads i read indicating that if one is truly saved, this person would not be caught in the struggle of alcoholism. Discussions of judging ones "fruit" vs what God can see in our hearts, has me all befuddled. Hopefully this post makes some sense!