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other one

No, because I can't get video's on my computer.  I doubt there is anything there that I am not aware of already.  And I don't see how my attitude toward islam leaves Western Civilization at risk.  I know what islam is, and their goal.   The risk of Western Civilization is their turning away from Jesus Christ. 

Don't include me in your walking away.    That is all you.

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ayin jade

Being outspoken doens't mean anything.  You can be outspoken and still present islam incorrectly.     Are you offended?   Perhaps it is you who feel maligned.

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DRS81

I did read on.  Which is why I said what I did.  The commentater touched on it but did not give adequate explaination.  He did nothing but explain more of why Christ is the 'Last Adam'.   Not why He is the 'Second Man'.

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Which means you have nothing to say.  islam is a false belief. 

 

Quantrill

I don't disagree that it is a false belief......   I disagree that you shouldn't care about it.

 

For those of you who think that Islam is just another false religion that shouldn't  be any bother to you at all,  you need to spend a few hours here to find why it matters.....   I do have much to say Quantrill, problem is you don't seem to be in the mood to listen....

 

This video is part of  a three day CLEET seminar  that I attended two years ago.   A CLEET seminar is put on for the continuing education classes for law enforcement...   Basically this is a police training class just in case you decide it's all  just a pile of bunk.

 

 

I would recommend everyone watch it all.....    but especially Quantrill, for what you don't know can hurt you.....   and ultimately usually does.

 

So, we'll see if my ****shakes head and walks away*****    was justified or not......   for you see Quantrill, I do have a lot to say.....   question is.... is it worth my trouble?

 

I know the Truth and thus can recognize the lies.  Such as islam.  Such as those who may portray islam in a more favorable light then they really are.  

You can walk away or trouble yourself.  That is up to you.

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Oakwood

 

I don't ignore islam.  I state what it is.  A heresy as I said.  And yes it is blasphemy also.

 

But I don't really care what islam's views of any movie or anything are because I know they are nothing but a heresy.  A false religion.  Their views mean nothing to me.

 

Am I afraid of islam?  Not hardly.  Im quite willing to argue against and stand up against any islamic belief.

 

Quantrill

 

That's good, but some of us do things differently. If you check my profile you'll find that I studied Islam before I was saved so I'm familiar with how evil it is. It is a pet hate of mine. I like to know what it is doing. Not everybody feels the same.

 

Amen brother.

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Adam became the first living being.Christ is the life-giving Spirit.The natural Adam came first on this earth and was made from the dust of the earth.Yes,Christ has existed from eternity,He is still called the second man.Christ came as a human baby,but He did not originate from the earth,He "came from heaven".

But why is Christ called the 'Second Man'?   When He numerically wasn't the 'Second Man'.   And as Head of a new race He is not the second but the Last.

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DRS81

Concerning the 'Last Adam', I believe the commentary hit on it in the second paragraph when he said, " is the last that shall rise up as a common head and representative of the whole, or any part of mankind;..."

Adam represented his race as the first Adam. The first head and representative.   Christ represents another race as the ' Last Adam'.  In giving Christ the title as the 'Last Adam' God is showing us that there will never be another head or representative of the race.  Thus He is not called the second Adam.  He is never the second Adam for to say there is a second implies there will be more.  Thus there will always be only those in Adam or in Christ.

Concerning the 'Second Man' the commentary touches on it when he says, " ...these two are spoken of, as if they were the only two men in the world;..."   But that is as close as he gets.  Which leaves the question, why does God call Christ the Second Man?

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Oakwood

That is true.  And note how when a country turns away from God, that all these other false religions flood in.   Be they islam, buddhism, or spiritism.   They don't want God yet they recieve the lies.

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Oakwood

It is a sad testimony.  A people who used to be Christian have turned from God to idols to the point that now a Christian chaplain is not wanted.

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Oakwood

I don't ignore islam.  I state what it is.  A heresy as I said.  And yes it is blasphemy also.

But I don't really care what islam's views of any movie or anything are because I know they are nothing but a heresy.  A false religion.  Their views mean nothing to me.

Am I afraid of islam?  Not hardly.  Im quite willing to argue against and stand up against any islamic belief.

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EnochBethany

You say Christ is the first transformed man of a new creation.  But Christ is not called the second Adam or the first man.  He is called the Last Adam and the Second Man.

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DRS81

Im looking for why Christ is called the Last Adam and Second Man.

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oakwood

Indeed, freedom is more important. 

Isn't it ironic that Obama/U.S.  doesn't recognize the vote of the Crimean people for seccession from Ukraine and unity with Russia.  Yet years ago that is what Ukraine did to secede from Russia.  And the U.S was extremely forceful in their approval.

What a bunch of hypocrits the U. S. has become.

Quantrill

I believe in knowing the enemy. I want to know what Muslims are up to. We are told to look out for signs and ever-strengthening Muslim activity is a sign (to me) that evil is growing in this World. If we hadn't kept tabs on what Hitler was doing we would have never have known to stop him.

Islam is a heresy born out of hell.  What else do you need to know? 

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other one

Which means you have nothing to say.  islam is a false belief. 

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other one

Sorry, I dont care one iota what a muslim thinks or believes.  As it is all false.

Your are 'privy' to nothing.   No matter what country the muslim resides in, it is his goal to place that country under Sharia Law.  A Law from hell.  Big deal.  We all are 'privy' to that.

Islam is a heresy and born out of hell.   That is all the Chlristian needs to know.

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Drs81

You have answered nothing.  Please reread.

Quantrill

The Koran is full of lies about  God and the Bible.  It is nothing but heresy. 

Christians should not care one iota what muslims think of the Bible or the movie Noah. 

In fact, becaue the muslims are so 'outraged' leads me to think it is worth watching. 

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Izzel

If you don't have anythng to offer, start your own topic.

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Kingdomwitness

Yes to what Jesus did.  But why is Jesus called the Last Adam?   Why not the Second Adam?  Why is He called the Second Man when in reality there were many born before Him?

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Adam was the first man created by God and multitudes of people were born of Adam and Eve to populate earth but because of sin, die. 

Jesus the second Adam, the Son of God who died and was the first who rose from the dead. Because of Him and His redemptive act, we who believe in Him will live forever.

Except, Jesus is not called the second Adam.  He is called the 'Last Adam'. 

And, though Jesus was not the next born after Adam, He is called the 'Second Man'.   Why?

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Used to be, that the biggest conflict for a chaplain was to minister to both Protestants and Catholics.   As both are Christian.   But now as the country gets farther away from God, we have every religion under the sun represented and the chaplain , which is supposed to be Christian, is many times expected to try and accomadate, and compromise his Christian views so as not to offend. 

So, that the Chaplain doesn't preach Christ the One and only way to eternal life.  And he doesn't preach that all others are false religions and those involved in them need to turn to Christ.

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EnochBethany

You have explained what the Last Adam and Second Man did.  And I agree.  But , no, you havent explained why Jesus is called the Last Adam or Second Man.

For example, in those same verses, Adam is called Adam and the first man.  He is Adam and he was the first man.  But Jesus is not called 'another' or the 'second'  Adam.  And He is not called another Man.  He is called the Last Adam and the Second Man.

How is Jesus the Last Adam?   How is Jesus the Second Man.  Because Jesus was not the second man as Adam was the first man, as Cain was the second man.  Many men had been born prior to Jesus Christ.

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EnochBethany

True.  But why is Jesus called the 'Last Adam' and the ;'Second Man"?

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Drs81

You are telling me what Jesus did as the Last Adam and the Second Man.  I am asking why is He called the Last Adam and Second Man.  As far as your answer goes, the term 'Last' or 'Second' didn't have to be there. 

Why is it there?

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