jamesdyson

I have the evidence that proves the Israeli's were the "first" to use terrorist acts to further their unjust cause. But by now you know you do not want to see the truth. It is best you leave this discussion and go back to where you came from. I say this for your sake, not mine

Where the Israelite's buried their great leaders says a lot. Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him [Israel] in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ; Genesis 50:14 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre. Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ; Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah. Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: Genesis 50:14 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre. Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father. You bury your great leaders in the land you call home so their graves will not be disturbed

NOTE: If the [text] is to small to read, just hold down the [CTRL] key while rolling you mouse roller up or down MOST of those links? You jest of course or you are lying to yourself. I have seen this kind of behavior before. Now we have Trump as our "President", the master of lies But why remain in the past, here is an update------ Google "IDF shooting children" Five children who got longer sentences for throwing stones than Israeli ... www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East Feb 22, 2017 - An 18-month jail sentence handed down to an Israel Defence Force (IDF) recruit for the killing of a wounded Palestinian has prompted widespread criticism for its apparent leniency in light of the severity of his crime. Then 19-year-old medic Elor Azaria was found guilty of manslaughter for fatallyshooting ... Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child | World news | The ... News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's global edition | The Guardian › World › Israel Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing. Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314... May 14, 2016 - UNICEF warns of excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead. ... the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". 2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade | News | Al ... www.aljazeera.com/.../2016-deadliest-year-west-bank-children-decade-17010314502... Jan 5, 2017 - "Israeli soldiers employ a shoot-to-kill policy. They have the green light to kill Palestinians, and the fact that they can do so with impunity and no consequences builds the foundation for such shootings to take place," Ayed Abu Eqtaish, Accountability Programme Director at DCI-Palestine, told Al Jazeera. Israeli security forces 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months ... www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/25-palestinian-children-killed-in-3.../7415256 May 14, 2016 - UNICEF cited the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". "Israeli authorities said that she had attempted to stab a policeman, however an eyewitness stated that she ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under attack

I disagree with the statements above. First: Israel was the name of a person, not a place. Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Second: the Israelite people were not warring people and had no armies. (Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers. (Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen. (Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers. Third: and last: The “promised Land” was not the land now claimed my the Israeli's today--- Promised Land “Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly. Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west. The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.” http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab Folklore is one thing, history is another---

I found another photo proving your point once again. This time the men in the tank jumped out and ran away

Google "IDF shooting children" for updates

ask and you shall receive 12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000 http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html Gaza girl said killed By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents, and Haaretz Service Thu., October 28, 2004 IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765 An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank In March 2003 12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom. Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF) http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed. http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/ Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends. 5 June 2004 http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die September 8, 2003 The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza. http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother. 28 July 2003 She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying, 'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other. She was still in my arms and she died." http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread. Tuesday December 23, 2003 http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112055,00.html Israel Baby is born then dies September 11, 2003 Birth and death at the checkpoint http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy Siege off Nablus January, 2004 15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper. http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends. 5 June 2004 http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml 15 year old boy & Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper. http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead Tue., October 05, 2004 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html “I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html http://tinyurl.com/8rmn2g3

I do believe the boy knocked out one of the machine guns on that tank. So I admit you are right and I was wrong. thanks

I was baiting you to make just such a request. I will give you a warning, make this request again and I will be forced to comply

You are posting an article that claims this and that with no supporting facts. In some circles this is called propaganda

The Palestinian government has no arms and Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian government. Whereas the IDF sharpshooters who shot children in the head while sitting at their UN sponsored school desk were/are "government" officials This is a big difference

I don't believe I brought up the term "Palestinians". As I said in the opening this is about verses in the Old testament concerning the verses where God was talking to the Israeli people. What He said and what they did in response.

The Palestinians have no arms. Except for small rocks. Just a few days ago the IDF shot (murdered) 15 kids because they threw a few rocks. I must say, those IDF sharpshooters are brave souls indeed

I am not sure where you are coming from? I want to discuss/debate verses in the Old Testament & comparing them to today's events. If this topic is over your head, just don't participate it's that simple

What is sad about being inquisitive? just asking

This has nothing to do with Israel’s neighbors. The is about the Lord & the Israeli’s and none other. God set out things they must do to get His grace and God stated what would happen if they failed to follow His commandments. History has shown us that they ignored His teaching over and over and continue to do so. It has been spoken, Israel will be removed and no more remembered; end of story. But all is not lost, there are over 15 million Jews who do not live in Israel and nor do they care to. They will be saved; but “Israel” will not. It is written and so it will be done.

it seems no one knows why they are here, except me; sad indeed

no one knows why they are here?

Why I am here I have a personal attachment to the Old Testament and the verses contained therein. This includes the verses where the Lord talked directly to the Israelite people. In this one-way discussion the Lord laid out directives for them to follow and the blessing they would get if they followed His suggestions. I took these directives and compared them to historical events and found them wanting. Personally, I would like to see the Israeli people change their ways by embracing the stranger (Palestinian) and treat them as one of their own just as the Lord instructed them to do. I truly believe this “example” would create a wave of peace across the middle east. Is this a waste of my time and yours?

Thanks for the advice. If I do, do you think I will be labeled a troll for the double topic?

What surprises me the most is the lack of comments on a Christian site. You would think believers in spiritual biblical verses would be happy to accept evidence of biblical events that strengthen the verses contain therein. But no, I don’t. Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Yown, Say something. Just flip a coin, heads you agree because & tails you disagree because?

Below is evidence that the Great Flood did indeed occur. What do you see and do you believe this is evidence of the great Flood?