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preacher, teacher, she beats her competition on this forum by a landslide!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was not aware that sound teaching of God's Word was a "competition". As I said above, when you question women preachers their supporters get very angry. I am trying to help you move away from false teaching and your throw insults. sw And what group does not throw insults when their own pet doctrines are brought into serious question? This is the nature of the beast which every man (and woman) is who has not yet overcome their own flesh as Christ overcame His

Like many other doctrines this is 'clear' to some but obviously not to all. Women being in a submissive carnal role is different than what women might be in a spiritual role. There is neither 'male nor female' in Christ. In Christ, any person, male or female naturally may be called by God to do what He desires. Who is any man (or woman) to decide that another person is or is not in God's will when he or she says God called them to a particular ministry? If God is in it who can stand against it? If on the other hand it simply a thing of the flesh it will come to naught. I see a spiritual side to Paul's writings about women's role versus men's role. The women's role is that of the Church. This is the submissive one and it will include both natural men and natural women. The men's role is that of the active ministry. This active role will also include both natural men and natural women. Even a male pastor will be in the submissive role of woman when he not the preacher, but merely, in effect, another member of the congregation (Church) listening and learning from the one who is preaching or teaching God's Word at the moment. Jesus teaching His sermon on the mount was the active male minister. All of the listeners: men . women and children, were the Church, the silent ones, the 'spiritual women' in submission to Him.