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pilla replied to Aleksander's topic in Have a problem? Looking for advice?
[ Maybe I dwell too much on the past and should just get up, dust off the failures, and keep going with reneved faith and determination? -
Esther pray for your friends and that God will reviel the truth. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about all the damage that this person's actions have caused. There is no excuse!I'm still shocked. There is an awesome article the is called"TO Judge of not to Judge." found at www.pfo.org/notjudge.htm I thank God for leading me to it. It expresses my reasoning 100% for doing what I did. My husband got a call today from one of my brother- in -laws and he said to my husband," What is your wife trying to do...Distroy our church!!" My husband (ALex) replied," Your concerned about my wife speaking the truth with facts,but yet you accept an ovious lie as truth and you defend the Pastor,his wife and that evangelist to the death. Since when have you know my wife to be a lier?You and I both know that she is one of the most honest people you have ever met." My husband said," We both will stand on facts and truth.Where do you stand?" May God help us. In the past it has been seen the pastor ostrosize people at our church until they left and then he would preach about how God would give the church 10more members to replace the rebellious and deviders that left. My husband and I have decided that we will not be ran out. Believe me,I want to go. I do. I'm tiered! I don't want to care..but I do. I care for all that are being decieved. It causes me,literally-physical pain,oh it hurts deep.It makes me sick to think that the body is soo quick to accept anything that is said to us as long as it is said from the pulpit. There is obious sin in the body,but yet we ignore it and then call it GOD"S WILL> What the HECK>>I"M I LOOSING ME MIND OR WHAT? Sorry, please forgive me outburst : I'm really thankful for all of your replies. Ilook forward everyday to read them. They truly strenthen me. I haven't been able to seek spiritual advice without feeling that people are not willing to reason with us. Thank you all very much and God Bless. I'm going to write a letter to the board and add a copy of the acticle that I mentioned above"TO judge or not to judge" I hear that the Pastor had called a meeting and that he is talking negatively about the fact that I had showed the gold teeth picture to people in the church. Please keep my husband ALex, My self and my 3 kids in your prayer. Pray can do great and awesome things. God speed!
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....But your saying that if I would have asked your permission and had done these things it would have been ok?! But since I can here and spoke truth and showed a picture,but I did not have your blessing then now I'm sinning?" He would not respond but say that he was not going to play my games. I told him that the Lord put it in my hard to be honest and speak the truth regardless of what would happen. I have a clear conscience. I'm saddened though b/c he and his wife are saying directly and indirectly to the other people from the church that I'm a lier, divider, satan is using me and for people to stay away because all who say these thing are a cancer in the church that can distroy it. They say I know longer have the spirit of God,but instead the devil is using me and others that had concern. The wife said from the pulpit while she played the piano( she is the worship team leader) " People don't let the devil say things to you that will still your miracle and your blessing..Don't listen to it or be part of it!!" Please keep me in your prayers and my God be gloryfied in everything..Always..Thanks
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I appreciate everyones replies. I am aware about what the word of God says, but it's difficult to stand sometimes when the people that are suppose to be guiding you spiritually put the soul of their shoe on your face and make comments that hurt and are unfounded. That is what led me to seek help here. I'm not unresonable and or proud. I'm not perfect,but I try daily to live according to God's will. I can except when I'm wrong, but at least reason with me for goodness gracious. Here is an update on the matter: There had been a board meeting a few days after the event. That pastor brought up the matter of this person and what people had concerns/complaints about. The board is made up of deacons that were elected. My husband is one of them( a good Godly man that deserves the best husband award. I'll share another day about him) When the pastor started talking he began to say that some people went and him to make this" great man of God" stop. He said they should be ashamed and repent of their sins. I'm husband them confronted him and said"If your refering to me and my wife. We don't deny taking with you..What happened was wronge and it was wronge you allowed it to continue. He fooled many that came looking for real help and with real needs." The pastor relpied.." So, people gave their life to the Lord during those days. What does it matter." My husband replied," It was based on a lie and that is a sin." Another deacon lady there got upset and started to rebuke my husband and said that she got gold filling and that it was true. Husband said," ok, sister please show us your God so that we too will be edified." She refused and the pastor stepped into conversation and said,"She does not have to prove any thing to you. The miracle is based on her faith wheather you can see it or not." We are not going to play you games anymore or discuss it. No one else spoke up even thought some there had mention to him b4 that they too did not believe it. He felt terrible. That next Sunday that pastor preached that all those people that spoke about or speak about any man of God will be condemed and should repent of their sins,immediately. That monday at work I had a patient with real gold fillings, Wow. they are beautiful( they are called inlays--look them up if you've never seen them. They are unmistakeable) And I took a picture and sent it via phone to the pastor. After praying about it, I felt compelled to let other see if the wish too. I took a picture to my womens group and at a time when we are allowed to make petition and comments, I Said.." God is all knowing truthful. We have an obligation to be honest with each other. For anyone who would like to see what Gold filling look like I have a picture and I showed I to them. All of a sudden the pastor barged in and began to say that I was out of line and that I was abusing his pulpit(not pulpit around)another lady bagan to pray that God would forgive us judging the men of God. It was unbelieveable. After, I went to speak with the Pastor and inquire why he was upset. He said to me b4 have a DDS verify the claims, when I told him that I had one that would for free. He said he was not playing my game?! He said that I was out of line. I then said," ok, I never calimed something that was not true. Did not asked for any offering...
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Ok, here it goes. I need other mature christians advice with this!!! I went to a christain conference. It was free. There was an evangelist there who is very knowledgeable in scripture. He spoke for over 2hrs and he had 6helps for audience that word read. if one word was looked over or miss-said he knew and would correct. He had the bibile memorized. He was there for 4days. He calims to have the gift of miracles. OK. He began to pray for God to give people GOLD teeth and other for flat feet to be healed. I had never heard of this..why?know special reason. He also said at the end to everyone.."dry off your hands..God is going to send an angel to place gold powder on your hand as comfermation. I and many others "obeyed" the "man of God." OK. The first night I was like wow my hand and shinnery..wow.. and for many others there. He had also told several people they had "gold fillings" in there mouth. He call all who wanted to see to go up and look in the persons mouth. I was called to go up by my pastor.. I went and I saw...NO GOLD FILLINGS!!!!!I was distured to say the very least. Why because I am a dental hygienist in Wa state and yes I have seen many times at work gold in the mouth..There were people the crying and shaking due to the excitement that God had given them gold. He did this for all four nights and I never saw a single gold filling that he calimed was there. Others would go up and look and smile and walk away..After the second day of this, I approached the pastor and asked him to stop was has happening because it was wrong. I said he's caliming there gold when there is not. At the end of ever night, I would pik up his own offering and have people go up and place it into his carry on ludgage and say as you come up to bless me ..make you request known to God and he will give it to you.This had never been done b4 in the church. They would pick up all offering for the ministers and register it in the church and write a check. AM I THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS THIS IS WRONG???? i KNOW SCRIPTURE AND THIS SEEMS WRONG. I have been told terrible things that I am going to be condemed by Gold for questioning what was happening or wanting clarification.Waht do you all think? He did these thing the entire 4 days.