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Warrior - A for almost... Adstar - you are even closer (but it is QRR - not QPR - unless you know something that I do not... ) This was immediately followed by by a quote from Micah 7:6. The purpose of Jesus to say this becomes a little clearer...try again.

Genesis 1:24 has animals first Genesis 2:18,19 has man first Ready, set.....go!

To any who reads after this - know this... RC is correct and wins - I will add a new thread about the twelve tribes, later. I will leave you with a silver bullet, RC... :thumb:

So far, everyone gets a N/C as a grade - if you say that they sinned at the same time, then you are not basing their spiritual condition on a watch or calendar - you must then say that creation did not occur according to a watch or calendar - you must then say that salvation is not based upon a watch or calendar - or are you merely making your idea fit when you can't understand it any other way? Please do not close your eyes and hope it all goes away.

Perhaps a symbolic title of those who Jesus chose? O but that is such a tease - because right afterwards he talks of more than 500 - so would he change his mode from using an ordinal number to using a cardinal number (not grammatically clean according to English syntax?) Add one more thought - is there a parallel to these twelve and the twelve tribes of Israel? (remember Levi and Joseph)...

hey Traveller - let's just bury the hatchet and not make any more cutting remarks... anyway - I don't see "poor" here, but they were growing in size - I see where you can pull a prosperity message - - but I don't see how it applies today unless you say that God will always miraculously provide for what you borrowed. Why a stick thrown in to make the iron float? Why the method in verse 7? I know I'm seeming to draw at straws, but there's always more than just a fishing expedition when you search the Scriptures.

If we are talking about fathering, we see recorded that Abraham had more than 2 (Genesis 25:2) - if we talk about promises, then he only had one - Isaac - and if we talk legally, he had sent Ishmael away at the time of offering Isaac, and so it depends on when you are speaking.

In context, 'their' is children - my question is if this is guardian angels specifically designed for such a task on a one-to-one basis or a group of angels meant for such duties or something else?

We can see a prophetic stance here, but why would Jesus say that he did not come to bring peace?

I was serious, but I suppose far too vague for you. Ephesians 2:12 - for the "unbeliever" they have no God in the world - the answer to them is that they cannot see God. When and if they become believers, then they can only see God through the Word - Hebrews 4:12 - 16 with the hope of seeing God face to face - 1 Corinthians 13:12.

Remember, Judas hung himself and Matthias had not yet been chosen.

I have a better response, but until then all I can say is thank you RC for your pleasant answer.

We are to walk by faith and not by sight. Yes, I have seen God and No, I have not seen God.

C.D. sounds as though he is speaking from personal experiences - yes, people can be cruel and the Lord does not want us to stencil the word WELCOME on our backs. However, I don't think this situation applies. tjw had some very good words to remind you that the church is more than just the pastor and just the elders. I think you should stand still and allow the Lord to fight your battles. Yet, why should there be a battle within a church. You would do better to resign than to be the cause of political conflict - James 3:15. Ministry is determined by God not by experience on a job application.

That is the all to which I referred.