vrjenny

Hey all...i said that i'd come let you all know that Tracey and Mike are gonna have a child. She is 5wks pregnant.

Blessings.

Hello...it has been a long standing invitation that whenever the chat goes down that you could come to "the restoration house"...but we have changed the name...if you want to come to a back up... here is the link

http://www.thinkhope.com/login.php?redirec...24bf9551c6fc189

feel free to come...thanks and G-d Bless.

P.S. sorry to hear chat is down...i will pray about it.

I know virtually nothing about him so I'm just going of his "Issues" page on his website. If I don't mention something it's because I generally agree with him or don't know enough to comment.

1 - He opposes all tax increases and wants to simplify the tax code with a flat tax. It seems unrealistic to think that there is never a need for raised taxes so I don't like that part of his platform.

2 - He says he will tackle energy independence and reduce oil consumption by 2.5 million barrels a day in 10 years. To do this he will use a "market-based approach." My question is whether he would put his foot down and use the force of law if necessary. If not, there will hopefully be more environmentally-friendly candidates.

3 - I don't support his will to ban gay marriage.

4 - His concerns about "activist judges" seem unfounded. By and large our judges do a good job. I fear he will put judges on the bench who will inhibit civil rights as we now know them.

5 - The blurb on religious liberty seems to be pretty paranoid. Our religious liberty seems to be right where it should be.

6 - It seems his stance on abortion is pretty absolute, i.e., every abortion is wrong. I doubt I would be in agreement with him on this issue. I also wonder what his stance is on stem cells since he claims to value life at every stage. If he is against research involving embryonic stem cells then that is another turn off.

Nothing is really knocking my socks off with this guy.

Wow...i am shocked...these are all the reasons I will be voting for him. okay...on your #3...i personally don't know any christian that is against the ban of gay marriage. How can we be for it if God was against it???

Okay...to me...your stance raises a lot of alarms to me. Seriously...i am so over the gay and lesbians going about all this civil right junk. They were not born this way...it is a LIFESTYLE...do alcoholics get civil right protection...what about drug users...hey...how about ppl who like to pick their nose while we're at it.

Come on...this is just too much...it totally trashes what civil rights is...and who it is for...it is for the blacks...the hispanics...etc. I see it as a degrading of those who truly went through tough times for things out of their control...(i.e. their skin color.) Those it protects...fights for are those who endured many things...many hardships...for who they were...not because of their lifestyle choice.

This is becoming such a sad world to live in...I am joyfully waiting for the Lord to come back. I do not agree with abortion either...the Lord can take ANYTHING bad and use it for His good...every child...every person is planned ...maybe not by us...but definitely by the Lord.

I do not support stem cell research...i do not support cloning... there are many things i am against...many you and i will not agree upon. This thread was not started to discuss that...and i have gone into all of this too far already... I will close for now.

You are truly in my prayers! ....sorry for getting off the original topic...

God bless.

hmmmm...I serve a God who can do anything...especially take a little nobody and change a nation. God has a way of taking the "underdog" and changing things...look at David...i am sure people said "there is no way he is gonna win" about him also...the odds didn't look good for a young man up against a Giant...but with God...all things are possible!!!

Phl 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

The one thing i do know is that God has a plan...and whom ever He has appointed for this time will be the President.... I also know that no matter who is in office...some will love him and some will hate him....some will think he is doing a great job and others will won't to burn him at the stake. Most will not stop long enough to realize that we are in the end times...and prophecy is being fulfilled. okay...i will shut up about all that before i get some long debate started...that is not my intention.

This is my stance... prayer MOVES God...it opens up the heavens....it is powerful enough to help Sam...the "underdog" win! I ask that many don't simply say "it's a long shot...he won't win..." and give up on him before he even gets started. The power of the tongue is a mighty thing....let's use it in a positive way. With our prayers and support...he DOES have a shot...with God on his side...He is a Victor!

Am i a hopeless optimistic??? I don't think so...i just take my bible and the promises within it at face value.

God Bless, Jenny.

Here is the link to Sam Brownback if anyone wants to check him out.

http://www.brownback.com/s/

This is the man we need to be praying is elected for President. I believe this is the man appointed by God for this new season for our nation. We need to pray for him daily...and start NOW! Let's pass this to as many as we can...get this guy's name out there and get him known...He needs our support and our vote!!! Let's do our part...we will be held accountable by the Lord for ALL our actions. Let's not "drop the ball" on this. We, as the body of Christ, need to speak up and be heard.

God Bless, Jenny.

17-year-old Brian Moore had only a short time to write something for a class. The subject was what Heaven was like. "I wowed 'em," he later told his father, Bruce. "It's a killer. It's the bomb. It's the best thing I ever wrote.." It also was the last.

Brian's parents had forgotten about the essay when a cousin found it while cleaning out the teenager's locker at Teary Valley High School . Brian had been dead only hours, but his parents desperately wanted every piece of his life near them-notes from classmates and teachers, his homework.

Only two months before, he had handwritten the essay about encountering Jesus in a file room full of cards detailing every moment of the teen's life.. But it was only after Brian's death that Beth and Bruce Moore realized that their son had described his view of heaven. "It makes such an impact that people want to share it. You feel like you are there." Mr. Moore said.

Brian Moore died May 27, 1997, the day after Memorial Day. He was driving home from a friend's house when his car went off Bulen-Pierce Road in Pickaway County and struck a utility pole. He emerged from the wreck unharmed but stepped on a downed power line and was electrocuted.

The Moores framed a copy of Brian's essay and hung it among the family portraits in the living room. "I think God used him to make a point. I think we were meant to find it and make something out of it," Mrs. Moore said of the essay. She and her husband want to share their son's vision of life after death. "I'm happy for Brian. I know he's in heaven. I know I'll see him."

Brian's Essay: The Room...

In that place between wakefulness and dreams, I found myself in the room. There were no distinguishing features except for the one wall covered with small index card files. They were like the ones in libraries that list titles by author or subject in alphabetical order. But these files, which stretched from floor to ceiling and seemingly endless in either direction, had very different headings. As I drew near the wall of files, the first to catch my attention was one that read "Girls I have liked." I opened it and began flipping through the cards. I quickly shut it, shocked to realize that I recognized the names written on each one. And then without being told, I knew exactly where I was.

This lifeless room with its small files was a crude catalog system for my life. Here were written the actions of my every moment, big and small, in a detail my memory couldn't match. A sense of wonder and curiosity, coupled with horror, stirred within me as I began randomly opening files and exploring their content. Some brought joy and sweet memories; others a sense of shame and regret so intense that I would look over my shoulder to see if anyone was watching.

A file named "Friends" was next to one marked "Friends I have betrayed." The titles ranged from the mundane to the outright weird "Books I Have Read," "Lies I Have Told," "Comfort I have Given," "Jokes I Have Laughed at." Some were almost hilarious in their exactness: "Things I've yelled at my brothers." Others I couldn't laugh at: "Things I Have Done in My Anger", "Things I Have Muttered Under My Breath at My Parents." I never ceased to be surprised by the contents.

Often there were many more cards than I expected. Sometimes fewer than I hoped. I was overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the life I had lived. Could it be possible that I had the time in my years to fill each of these thousands or even millions of cards? But each card confirmed this truth. Each was written in my own handwriting. Each signed with my signature.

When I pulled out the file marked "TV Shows I have watched", I realized the files grew to contain their contents. The cards were packed tightly, and yet after two or three yards, I hadn't found the end of the file. I shut it, shamed, not so much by the quality of shows but more by the vast time I knew that file represented.

When I came to a file marked "Lustful Thoughts," I felt a chill run through my body. I pulled the file out only an inch, not willing to test its size and drew out a card. I shuddered at its detailed content.

I felt sick to think that such a moment had been recorded. An almost animal rage broke on me. One thought dominated my mind: No one must ever see these cards! No one must ever see this room! I have to destroy them!" In insane frenzy I yanked the file out. Its size didn't matter now. I had to empty it and burn the cards. But as I took it at one end and began pounding it on the floor, I could not dislodge a single card. I became desperate and pulled out a card, only to find it as strong as steel when I tried to tear it.

Defeated and utterly helpless, I returned the file to its slot. Leaning my forehead against the wall, I let out a long, self-pitying sigh.

And then I saw it.. The title bore "People I Have Shared the Gospel With." The handle was brighter than those around it, newer, almost unused. I pulled on its handle and a small box not more than three inches long fell into my hands. I could count the cards it contained on one hand.

And then the tears came. I began to weep. Sobs so deep that they hurt. They started in my stomach and shook through me. I fell on my knees and cried. I cried out of shame, from the overwhelming shame of it all. The rows of file shelves swirled in my tear-filled eyes. No one must ever, ever know of this room. I must lock it up and hide the key. But then as I pushed away the tears, I saw Him.

No, please not Him. Not here. Oh, anyone but Jesus. I watched helplessly as He began to open the files and read the cards. I couldn't bear to watch His response. And in the moments I could bring myself to look at His face, I saw a sorrow deeper than my own.

He seemed to intuitively go to the worst boxes. Why did He have to read every one? Finally He turned and looked at me from across the room. He looked at me with pity in His eyes. But this was a pity that didn't anger me. I dropped my head, covered my face with my hands and began to cry again. He walked over and put His arm around me. He could have said so many things. But He didn't say a word. He just cried with me.

Then He got up and walked back to the wall of files. Starting at one end of the room, He took out a file and, one by one, began to sign His name over mine on each card. "No!" I shouted rushing to Him. All I could find to say was "No, no," as I pulled the card from Him. His name shouldn't be on these cards. But there it was, written in red so rich, so dark, so alive. The name of Jesus covered mine. It was written with His blood. He gently took the card back. He smiled a sad smile and began to sign the cards. I don't think I'll ever understand how He did it so quickly, but the next instant it seemed I heard Him close the last file and walk back to my side.

He placed His hand on my shoulder and said, "It is finished." I stood up, and He led me out of the room. There was no lock on its door. There were still cards to be written.

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."-Phil. 4:13 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

I may have posted this in the wrong place...but i hope this will be okay posting here. I don't know if you have read this before...it seems old..ten years i believe...so it may have come to you through a email...it was one that asked to be forwarded. I think this boy's essay puts a different view on a beautiful act of love. I am a cry baby....lol...so yes..i cried when i read this...i hope it touches you also.

God Bless, Jenny.

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Thanks for the poem...it is wonderful...i'm gonna share it if you don't mind.

God Bless, Jenny.

I was born in Lyons, Kansas

then lived in...

Sterling, Ks; Pratt, Ks; Broken Arrow, Okla. ; Owasso, Okla.

Anthony, Ks; back to Owasso, Okla.; Valley Center, Ks. ;

Kingman, Ks; Hays, Ks.; back to Kingman, Ks.; back to Valley Center, Ks.;

Park City, Ks.; Newark,Tx.; Roanoke,Tx.; back to Park City, Ks.; Valley Center,Ks.;

Wichita,Ks.; Kingman, Ks.; Newark,Tx.; Ft. Worth, Tx.; Kingman, Ks.;

Married Fred(vrspock) moved to Knoxville, Tn.; Crossville,Tn.

Wow...i've done a lot of moving..and i'm only 28 yrs old...lol...

Okay..the places i have visted... all states surrounding Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming,

Montana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,Kentucky, Illinois,

North Carolina ... I have never been out of the states..the closest was while in California..was only fifteen min. from the border..

ppl i was with didn't want to go...they said it is dirty over there...maybe another time.

I would love to go to some places but that require getting on an airplane..lol..

okay...enough from me... God bless, Jenny.

i think this is a wonderful post...thanks Marnie...

I would like to make a comment....i think that alot of ppl make the mistake in saying "if it be Your Will" when it clearly is His will...like health...the Lord desires us all to be of good health...sound mind...etc... so why say something we already know...I think you just tie His hands when you add that to the end...(on certain requests...prayers)...it is like a scapegoat...that way we can blame God if it doesn't come about....we can say..." well..i guess it didn't come to be cuz He didn't want it to..." now...Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.

Verses on His Will...

Luke 12:28-32 "If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more [will he clothe] you, O ye of little faith? And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

3Jo 1:2 "Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers." (you will notice he does not say...if it be God's will...)

I do agree there are things to say..." if it be Your Will..." for instance...direction in your life...job issues of any sort...daily decisions...investments of any sort..be it financial or otherwise...I myself...have prayed about serving the Lord...and i say, " i want to serve you...let Your Will be done.." or...If it be Your will Lord...that i go to...or do...you will provide the way...the provision..."...but we must get into the Word and know what He desires...that way we do not pray amiss and bind Him. It says...Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We are told to come to Him boldly...as Marnie has said... the verses i like are these... Jam 1:6-7 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord."

Okay...these is just my humble opinion...again thanks for the wonderful post.

God Bless, Jenny.

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

just out of curiousity...does this not give an idea of when his return is??? if so...where does it say the body is perfect...is God not soverign??? Does He not have a day set??? does our actions change the day of His return???? if so...then what happened to him being Soverign???

Just wondering.

God Bless, Jenny.

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okay... backontrack...i am reading this and i am trying to grasp what you are saying...let me see if i understand...

What you are trying to say is that as a unified body...the bride...we are not ready...we are not fulfilling all that the Lord has for us to do...we are not operating in one accord...the "foot" is still trying to go one way...the "arm" do another thing....etc.. is the point that God is seeing a "church" that has waxed cold...blended in with the world to degrees...we have been slothful in who we are and the power we have through Christ...

you are saying that we are not mature in that possibly....we as a body are still found lacking... Mar 16:15-17 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;..."

that we still have a ways to go to being more "Christ-like"...to walk in the authority given to us...the love within us...the "church" needs to step up and come to the ends of our selves to a point that all that is seen is Christ...the Light becomes so bright that there is not a place you can go to escape it.

we are still inmature in the fact that the lines of denominations are still seen...and a hindrance to degrees.

maybe this passage speaks of what you are saying:

Matt 25:31 "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the *holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.'

37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.'

41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'

44 "Then they also will answer *Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' 45 Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

I do believe we are seeing the Lord doing a little "house cleaning" among His church... He has seen us "conforming to this world"...He has seen ppl being hearers of the word but not doers...as it is said...to much is given...much is required...i think an example of some house cleaning is what happened in Colorado Springs...with Mr. Haggard (let's not go into debate on that issue). Like i said...to whom much is given...much is required...so i am thinking this...with us having a church practically on every corner...how many t.v. programs...Christian magazines...etc...and we are seeing a lesser move by the church here..with all that...than with those ...other nations...that do not have even a small portion of it. There is an apathy here. I read a book that had a conversation in it that puts what i am saying into light. It was said.... This man told an Ethiopian pastor, "Brother, we pray for you in your poverty." This humble man turned and said to him, "No, you don't understand. We pray for you in your prosperity."...the Ethiopian pastor explained, " We pray for you Americans because it is much harder for you to live at the place God wants you to live in the midst of prosperity, than it is for us in the midst of poverty." Taking in account what we have for resources...and the power of God...why do we have an adulteress nation...i do believe that we will be judged as individuals..but as a corporate body also...God wants to move in us...through us...but in the natural...how effective is the body if the left leg wants to go one direction...and the right leg wants to go another....now apply that spiritually.

I also see another parable that is applicable:

Matt 25:1-13. "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.

6 "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom *is coming; go out to meet him!' 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' 9 But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

11 "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!' 12 But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.'

13 "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

we must live each day to the fullest...we are not promised tomorrow...we must strive to daily go about the Master's business...we are His hands and feet...i myself sometimes wonder what souls do i have to account for...and their eternal destination...how has my obedience...servitude...to my Lord...effected the Kingdom...was it a positive...did i get myself out of God's way...

Might this be some of what is trying to be said...

1 Th 5 "But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. 8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.

11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.

12 And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.

14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all.

16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.

23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it.

25 Brethren, pray for us.

26 Greet all the brethren with a holy kiss.

27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the *holy brethren.

Okay...with that all said...i will close for now..whether you agree or disagree...this is my humble opinion...and i think might be partly what the op is trying to say...i could be wrong...I say the best action is to pray without ceasing...and live by the examples of Christ...and live to the fullest.

God Bless, Jenny.

Has anyone 'never' craved chocolate?

Does the time while your sleeping count?...wait...nope...do it then too....never mind.

I always make my quota in that food group.

How did this go from tigger's husband feeling comfortable in a suit & tie in church to what we should wear to church?

I say we take up a collection so tigger can get her husband some nice suits so he can go to church and not feel awkward or out of place. It's about what makes him feel comfortable, not what is acceptable.

So glad he does not feel most comfortable in a toga.

I hope that my post was not misunderstood...the point i was trying to make is that is acceptable to go in whatever he finds comfortable ...the Lord will not be looking at what he is wearing...I don't see the Lord focusing on the outfit...He will be looking at the heart of a person.

I myself was raised that we had to wear the finest...and to me..that was uncomfortable...it made feel awkward...at the time though..i also had no true relationship with the Lord...i felt He was a far off God sitting on this big throne that was unreachable...or you had to at least have some formal invitation to speak to Him. He was a God to me...but not my Lord. Now that i have a deeper relationship with HIm....see Him a living and personal...I am comfortable in wearing "the nicest i have" which does not include a dress..or dress slacks. Now...all this is just for me...how i perceived things...I am not in anyway making reference to the condition of tigger's husbands relationship with the Lord...or anyone else's for that matter.

I am truly happy that her husband is wanting to go to Church...PTL! Tigger...dear...if i had any money...I would send ya some...actually...if a collection is taken up...i would like to know...i wanna help...bless someone...as i have been blessed.

God Bless, jenny.

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So is it okay to visit a funeral home on behalf of a DEAD person and meet his family and business associates, etc, in crumpled jeans or cut-offs (weather permitting), unkempt hair and muddy work-boots? Or should a guy put on a business suit, and a woman a dress & heels? or Only asking, because a DEAD man's in the funeral home - and the LIVING, vibrant Son of God, KING Jesus, meets us & ministers to us in His Church, "There am I in the midst"!

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Okay...as i see the point you are trying to make...and i agree in the fact that if you are able to dress up to go pay respects to someone that has passed...then you should give the Lord the same level of respect ...if not more...but i must ask ...are you totally ignoring the op...her husband DOES want to dress in his finest...they just don't fit...he is stuck in the mind pattern that he can not go to church because of this issue...he is saying that he CAN'T go to church because he doesn't have some "sunday best" and they can't afford them at this point in time...you know...the Lord is not going to truly care if it is not a thousand dollar suit that he is wearing or some dress slacks, shirt, and tie....i am sure the Lord will be pleased and feel respected with the best in his closet which may be a pair of jeans..and they might even have a small hole or two in them....lets think about this... what did the Lord have to say to the Pharissee...those that dress to the tilt...had on their Holy garb...but nothing more than that...especially on the inside...lets then think about how He sat with sinners...He ministered to sinners...do you suppose they had on their "sunday best"....I don't see the Lord having a dress code check at His entrance...just a heart check.

And for those that dress their best for church...do we not realize that Christ is within us...WE are the church...it is not a building..."where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." sooo...for those that say you have to wear "Sunday Best" to church...to honor Him...are you saying that God only shows up in a building on Sunday mornings??? If not...then why are you not dressed up in your "Sunday Best" at every moment of the day. A church building does not make up the church...just as a suit or dress doesn't make you a Christian. My husband cracks me up when he uses the phrase..." going to "church" makes you a Christian just as much as going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger."

We need to get serious...quit putting so much focus on the outside and care a little more about what's on the inside...the place where Christ truly dwells.

P.S. Christ does not MEET us there...we take Him with us!!! and you are totally right about how he ministers to us in HIS Church...of course that is with the understanding that we are the church...the temple.

My humble opinion... please take no offense. God Bless, Jenny.

Okay...i will admit that i have not read every single post on this thread YET...so forgive me if i copy what someone has already said...but i want to make a comment about peole being born homosexuals...

Okay...those that say this is part of their design...is saying...when God created them...HE created them to love the same sex as them...Hmmmm...where has God ever contradicted His Word???? Are we/they saying a perfect God has created something flawed(according to His own Word)??? It is just not true...there is no way to see it as something you are born with...sorry. God created all things perfect...we with the power of choices...have become flawed by our own design...not Gods. God does not make mistakes... i don't see Him saying..." oops...I used to think it was okay for men to be with men..or women to be with women...but i think i will change my mind...i better write that new rule down in the Word...that way they will know that i have changed my mind." Seriously... that would mean that His first mistake..or unneeded creation would be woman...and he would have made a way for men to produce..to create life without a woman. Think about it...sooo...how many mistakes are we saying our perfect God has made???

Okay...in my humble opinion..this is what i see...too many of us...who claim to have God's love in us don't always operate in it...we say we are Christ-like...

then we pick up the first stone we see and get ready to chuck it at the sinner...we need to do as Christ did... LOVE THE PERSON...HATE THE SIN. It seems as though we have a tendency to get so caught up in seeing the sin and the person so intertwined that we can't look far enough past the sin to see that there is a real live person under it...and they are hurting...lost...in need of some light in their darkness... let me give you an analogy... say you are stuck in this room that is dark...you can't find your way to the light switch...you can't see a thing...you keep stumbling and getting tripped by objects you didn't even realize was there...then....all of a sudden...you see someone coming...they are holding a lit candle...a light...you aren't sure what to think ...you are waiting to see if they will help...you may even be trying to call out to them...to ask them to help you find the light switch...they stand in the door way of this room...they stand there with the light...it lights up this huge room enough for them to see you...to see you need help...so what do they do...they stand there and ask you why in the world you are standing in the dark...why do you like standing in the dark...can't you see it is not good for you...it has caused you to get bumps and bruises...they simply say.."i can't understand why they want to stand there...why don't they want help...why can't they get smart and walk over here and flip the switch." They are so busy putting you down...focusing on what you are doing wrong..that they can't see that you are stuck...unable to come and turn on the light switch for yourself...or...they are so focused on the darkness you are in...that you become one with the darkness...they don't see you...

Does the person take their lit candle...go up to you...guide you to the source of light...help you flip the switch. Love YOU enough to help cast the darkness away.

Sooo i ask you...are you the one standing in the door way...looking at the darkness and missing the fact that there is someone stranded amongst it...or you do you see the person and love them enough to grab their hand...and help walk them through the darkness and into the light?

God Bless, Jenny.

I am a music freak who listens to about seven hours of music a day... kudos to you on doing God's work over the airwaves! I'm a teen in the Midwest. And, to ward off misconception, I do not live on a farm, nor do I own overalls... XD

1. What's your favorite type of music?

I like anything from Christian Rock-Metal and some Contemporary here and there. Only rapping I like is done by Toby Mac and KJ-52.

2. What are your favorite bands?

That's hard. O_o Skillet, BarlowGirl, Superchick, Hawk Nelson, Relient K to name the most prominent.

3. Do you like to listen to a mix or just your style...the new top 10 songs...or a mix of old and new songs?

I'm open to listen to almost anything. The biggest thing I can say is as long as you play a variety and don't play Top 10 songs 24/7, I would tune in any day. Add in a little of everything, and play old AND new.

4. Think about the station you listen to all the time...or the majority...what makes you like it so much...what keeps you tunned into that station?

It's one of the only Christian radio stations around here. I like it because it sends a positive vibe and I like the music (though the repeating songs sometimes make me want to scream). XD

5. What would you change about your favorite station if you could and why?

*see above*

6. What kind of programs would you like to see in your ideal station...call-in programs...prayer hot lines...?

Prayer hot-lines would really be nice. It gives a sense of community, like you're connected to someone else in the world just because of their music (think Chris Rice's "The Other Side Of The Radio") Some contests would be fun.

7. If it was said that a Christian radio station was coming to your town...what would you like to see it do for the community...in the community?

Our radio station does some roller-skating nights. It'd be cool if we could get this information out to the public; maybe get some non-believers turned on to Christian music. Make them see that it isn't hymns.

Thank you for all your wonderful feedback...just as all the others...you have been very helpful and we enjoy hearing from you...yes...we are definitely listening to the Lord...i know that teens in our area don't "get into" church...they feel as though they can't relate to these "holier than thou" old people...who listen and sing hyms that try to get a message said in some "foreign" language....there is a generational gap there...it is where they say..."they just don't understand us"...and the adults are saying..." they just don't want to understand...things can't be THAT different". We all know that God does not change...but i think He is willing to work within the changes of the generations...He will use methods of that time that will best reach His children...and the "lost". For instance...do you go up to someone that is ...let's say japanese...who does not understand english...and try to witness to them in english...just tell them...i don't know how to speak your language...so you are going to have to learn my language so that i can witness to you...no...that isn't too effective. To many teens...their language is these newer styles of music (secular and Christian).... so...through a "language" (style) they understand or will be able to ...we are going to minister to them. We are going to use music to bridge a gap.

You know...i totally agree with you on your answer to the last question...that is the thing...many of the lost want to stay that way because they don't want to give up what they have...they just don't realize what God has for them.... they think it is all rules...and no fun...or they think that God is some far away...ancient being sittin on this big throne that can't be touched...can't be reached. They think that you have to be boring...no "life"...dead. They don't realize that they are the ones dead...that life is wonderful when you start actually living. As i have said...music is a big one for teens...young adults..it is their way of expression...release...even therapy, so to speak(not that it is a good thing). You know...kids listen to music because it makes them feel like someone understands them...the artist "gets them"...after all...parents don't understand..times are different...(i've said that to mine...lol..).... " mom/dad, its different that when you were a kid"..sound familiar anyone? Well...we want to offer them something that isn't soooo different...just way better. Something they will be willing to listen to...that might actually "get them"...show them that God is very real...and very much a part of today as He was generations ago. Songs that speak to them about the issues they may be going through...and show them God is the way...the answer. For instance..there is a song out by a Christian Rock group called Plumb.. the song is called "Cut"...it is hitting the top of the charts...it is becoming very popular because of the impact it is making on the people....it is ministering to those with the issue of cutting. That is the thing we are wanting to do for the Lord....glorify Him...make an impact...one that will help bring in the harvest.

You know...i had to giggle when you mentioned the roller rink...why? well...we have a friend that is a part of our ministry...He was given a vision many years ago...it was of a roller rink... a christian roller rink.... a roller rink that only played edifying music... we have spoken with him many times about this...and we know that in God's perfect timing the roller rink will be birth and our ministry will work together in it all. We have spoken how the music will come from the radio station...and many more cool ideas involving the two ministries. Our town does have roller rink..but it is one that not many people will let there children go to due to the things that go on there and the music that is played. People have expressed a desire to have the very thing that our friend was given a vision of. We are sooo excited to be found worthy and qualified to do all these things and be a servant to our community.

Again...thanks everyone!

God Bless, Jenny.

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hey vrjenny,

A link to this thread was posted in a forum, and I wish I could be of more help. However, I listen to any of those kinds of music becuae I just listen to ... well, what people seem to call "Traditional Christian music"... aka.. just hymns and things like that. I don't do comtemporary or "Christian" rock, rap, hip hop, etc... sorry. Why not put on some traditiional music? I love it so much and how wonderful it is to sing praises to God

Hope thsi helps,

Crystal

Thanks Crystal... I appreciate all you have said...i thought i would answer your question...these are the styles we will be playing because ,simply, we have been led by the Lord to do so...in our immediate area...that is what the kids...teens...young adults are in to...we are trying to give them a better alternative to what they listen to...if it isn't the lyrics they are after...but the style...we are wanting to give them something similar that is full of God. It is awesome times around here..we are seeing a lot of teens saved....we all know music is used by the enemy to try and destroy...well...we want to take it( meaning the Christian side of music) and use it for good...for God...these teens are used to listening to secular music...so we want to give them something so that the old stuff isn't a stumbling block for them...take away the foothold the devil thinks he has....

We do have stations around here that play the hymns...the people we are targeting just aren't into that...not that it is bad...or that they are bad for being that way...they just don't seem to be able to relate with the music...it is a new generation...and we are seeking to connect with them in a way they will be receptive...to most teens...even young adults...they find the hymns don't speak to them in a language they understand. Please do not think that i am putting anyone down that enjoys hymns...i enjoy them myself...and some of the music kids like...i find it hard to listen to...i suppose that is how Fred and i will balance each other out in this...you know...going into this...we knew that not everyone is going to be satisfied...because after all...we are humans with our own likes and dislikes...not programmed robots...we just know and trust that the Lord has a perfect plan...and that His ways are perfect.

Okay...i keep talking about teens...as i have said...our target audience with be 12-35yrs old...but i believe the main focus will be the teens..and ppl in their early to mid twenties...that is the age we are seeing a major move of God in our area...i have spoken with the leaders of our teens in my church...they all have said...if you're gonna reach the kids...its gonna be through the styles i have mentioned. I do want everyone to know that we have taken all of this into careful consideration...and lots and lots of prayer...we are not being hasty in this...no matter what anyone might say or think...we know this is what the Lord wants...after all...this is not Fred and Jenny's radio station...this is God's ministry. We are just the servants He chose to use.

I know many of you may not know us...but then...many of you do...and some of you know us even more...those of you who know us closely and even just a little...hopefully you know and take comfort in the fact that we are all about serving Him and doing His Will. It is a Kingdom...not a democracy for us....we don't vote...we say "yes Master".

Once again...i thank you Crystal...you are a sweet person and i appreciate your response. I am sure others have been wondering the same thing...so you gave me the opportunity to get that answered for everyone...i just hope i was able to present that without offending anyone...i said everything with love....hope you receive it as so.

God Bless, Jenny.

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okay folks...i am bumping this cuz i would like to have more feedback...

Again...we thank you for all your help, prayer, and support.

God Bless, Jenny.

Thanks PBob and Leonard...

God Bless, Jenny.

Thanks for the replies...

God Bless, Jenny.

Okay...this is a poll to get feedback for our ministry. As most of you may know Fred and I have been called to operate a Christian Radio Station here in Tennessee. It is a much needed thing here in our immediate area. We are projecting to have a 50 mile listening radius. Eventually we will have it online also. When?...in the Lord's perfect timing. This all is moving fast for us...the Lord is really at work. We know that our target age range is 12-35. Sounds like a large range, right? well...we would like to hear from everyone here to help us...give us feedback...let us know what you...hopefully in that age range...are looking for in a christian radio station. We know some of the things the Lord has planned for the station...but we want to hear from you too.

1. What style of music do you like...

Contemporary: Big Daddy Weave, Jeremy Camp, Casting Crowns, Chris Rice, Tree 63, etc.

Christian Rock: Audio Adrenaline, Barlow Girl, Shaun Groves, 7Thunders, Skillet, etc.

Christian Modern/Alternative Rock: Jars of Clay, Newsboys, Sanctus Real, Switchfoot, Third Day, etc.

Christian Metal/Hard Rock : 12 Stones, Disciple, Jonah33, Kutless, Pillar, P.O.D., Relient K, etc.

Christian Rap/Hip Hop : The Cross Movement, GRITS, KJ-52, Lil

I agree that he is the best option...i like him being a former kansas girl...

One thing we must remember...nothing is a longshot with God...we must come together...the church...and we must pray...we know that prayer is what opens up the heavens...it is powerful...we must begin now...can't wait until July to get it on our prayer list... as we all know...our prayers are a doorway for God...we must be tenacious. Pray for the Lord's will to be done. The Lord has someone appointed for that postion for that season...His ways are perfect...His thoughts are perfect...so like i said..I will pray His will be done.

We also must remember...just as others who said that Bush was the best man for the job and possibly now are looking down on him and all he has done...we are to be prayer warriors...intercessors for our leaders...and if we look at the Word...we know that things going on have been documented to happen for thousands of years...so don't hate the man in the postion...they are not the ones with the real power...they are just a man.

Remember...God uses the good and the bad within His sovereign plan. It is not like God says..."oops..i didn't think about them doing that...saying that... I better change what i was doing...or...oh man...why didn't I see that coming." , right???

This is my humble opinion...Okay...i will step off my soapbox.

God Bless, Jenny.

This is really neat... mine is July 20

Ecclesiastes 7:20 NIV

There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.

Fred's (vrspock) is June 24

Ephesians 6:24 NIV

Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love.

God Bless, Jenny.