Tinky

They are spirits, yet they have spiritual bodies.  When you consider the account of Jesus with the disciples, particularly Thomas, who had to physically touch Him for his own acceptance, then we understand that even a spiritual body has physical characteristics.  The major difference between a spiritual body and a natural body is that the spiritual body is eternal.  So how the war occurs between them would be different than what we think of war.  They cannot kill each other, so there would really be no need for weapons.  I don't know if that means they simply wrestle, or something more, but it is important to note that spiritual beings are imperishable already.

Some angels are described in the Bible as having swords (like the angel guarding the entrance to Eden.) 

It's been boggling my mind lately as to how they actually battle.

So,  if other networks in your part of the world debate Global Warming, Big Foot or even evolution, is that not too lunacy?

 

It would be interesting to know how many programs you watch of the BBC 

 

 

Or is this a let's bash the BBC  thread 

I watch a lot of BBC programs. Before I was a Christian I was a huge fan of "Absolutely Fabulous."  

It just seems that over the years the BBC has made it's mission to be bashing Christ and Christianity. American networks do it as well, but not on the scale of the BBC.

I guess I'm thinking of the "war in heaven" passages, (and to a lesser extent, the ones about Danial's prayers being hindered for weeks until the archangel Michael came to help). Can they somehow physically fight each other even though they are spirits? Can they be wounded and suffer pain?

I know the fallen angels will indeed suffer torment in the Lake of Fire - so it makes me wonder.

Just how do they battle each other? 

I have never known any network work harder at discrediting Jesus.

Too bad they don't have the courage to try it with Mohammed.

More lunacy from the BBC.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/were-jesus-and-buddha-aliens-bbc-program-debates-the-idea-133806/

 

 

When you reject the authority of Scripture, you reject any claim that it has over your life. 

So true, Shiloh! 

Always......

OWWWWWWWWW!!!!! 

If Jesus could have sinned, he would still be able to sin. God cannot sin. 

But like Shiloh said, 

 

 

 It is not a sin to be tempted, so there is no reason to believe that Jesus didn't feel temptation the same way we do.

The New York Times.....the communist/atheist paper of choice.

Muslims claim that any land once dominated by Islam remains Muslim forever. The NYT, by making the claim Muslims were here first, gives Muslims the "right" to say the United States is Muslim land. They are now obligated to fight until the country is "back" in the House of Islam.

No Christian would praise any other religion. All other religions lead people to hell. To defend other religions is to encourage people into hell. By his "fruit" alone, it is easy to judge that Obama is no Christian. Also, no Christian would encourage abortion and homosexuality as he does

 

 

God doesn't use His Son to declare us righteous

I guess you missed this verse:

"Therefore, since we have been declared righteous by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 5:1)

 

 

He uses His Son as the measuring line against which we will be weighed.

If that is the case then we are all doomed. No mortal man, through his own efforts, can ever measure up to God.

I think future historians will look back on the Obama years as one of the darkest times in American history.

God requires sinless perfection for one to enter Heaven. Scripture teaches us, that on our own, we can never be perfect enough to gain salvation. That's why Jesus had to come and die in our place. Only His sinless, perfect blood could blot out our sins. His righteousness is placed into our account - through repentance and faith - thus insuring our acceptance before a Holy God.

 

 

I put in another drive in the second slot and whacked the old one really hard with a screw driver. 

That really made me laugh! 

I'd suggest to Nat Geo that perhaps they might make a film with anyone playing the role of Mohammed, but I'd feel bad for making them all faint in terror.

In theory tinky your right however the threat to lose tax exemption is indeed a real one that's been thrown around.

I think the government is fearful of revoking tax exemption for churches because they wouldn't want unrestrained preaching against "certain" politicians and party. 

Praying! 

Great article! Thanks Fez! 

The government has no authority to tell preachers what to preach, nor whom they can marry. Tax exemption has more to do with a church endorsing politicians. 

NPR featured a surprising story for last week’s Weekend Edition Sunday about a pastor who has same-sex attraction but married a woman. Rachel Martin of NPR interviewed Allan Edwards and his wife Leeanne, who are expecting their first baby in July. Allan pastors Kiski Valley Presbyterian Church in Pennsylvania, a congregation in the conservative Presbyterian Church in America denomination.

Allan explained how he wrestled with attraction to men in high school, but he waited until college before he opened up about it. Although he expected his friends at his small Christian liberal arts college to ostracize him, he experienced quite the opposite: “I actually was received with a lot of love, grace, charity: some confusion, but openness to dialogue.”

When Rachel asked why he didn’t just join a Christian denomination that welcomes same-sex relationships, he explained that he really considered it. But his interpretation of the Bible compelled him to do otherwise. “The center of Christianity is the Bible,”he proclaimed, and starting from this premise he studied whether the Scriptures permitted homosexuality.  He concluded that he could not simultaneously follow the Bible and his same-sex attraction, “I studied different methods of reading the Scripture and it all came down to this: Jesus accepts the rest of the Scripture as divine from God. So if Jesus is who he says he is, then we kind of have to believe what he believes."

Key paragraph: Allan provides a noteworthy example not only to believers wrestling with same-sex attraction but to any Christian who has desires that conflict with Scripture: and that’s all of us! First, he opened up about it with other believers who could provide encouragement and grace. Second, he resolved to follow God’s Word even if it clashed with his desires. And third, he determined to define himself not by his desires but by how God defines him: a redeemed disciple of Christ.

The Full Story: http://www.christianity.com/christian-life/marriage-and-family/pastor-defines-his-identity-not-in-his-same-sex-attraction-but-in-christ.html

Until our government can call Islam what it is, a terrorist ideology, we can never hope to win against it. 

Was that referring to Paul's time, is it generally for all time or is it specifically as we approach the End Times?

I believe that I can see many examples of it now.

 

In context:

 

¹⁰ And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

¹¹ And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

¹² That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

(KJV)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it applies to Paul's time and ours. There has always been a spirit of antichrist around, and for people of any time who reject Jesus, they are open to any and all delusions and lies. 

In this day and age, God speaks to believers through His word - the Bible.

Praying! Hope you feel better today!