AI will be used in 5th generation warfare. It might make preacher's jobs easier maybe I'll get on chatgpt and see what kind of sermon comes up. 

On 12/13/2023 at 4:26 AM, FJK said:

baht chain

Did you mean block chain?

On 12/12/2023 at 8:01 PM, other one said:

The problem I see in metals is finding someone to buy them if the economy really goes down.

That is true, there is a shop in my town that charges a little over the spot or you can send it to one of the gold companies like SD Boullion or KITCO.

On 10/21/2017 at 5:57 PM, CSLJ said:

The more wisely you shepherd the resources you have been entrusted 

the more you can give. It's pretty straight forward.

We aren't taking anything with us, but investing in the Kingdom allows us to send it ahead, "building treasure in Heaven where moth and rust do not corrupt."

best wishes

Yep, because satans system is trying to milk every dime we have. Plus precious metals tend to hold value as the system lowers the purchasing power of the dollar.

On 10/21/2017 at 3:58 PM, hmbld said:

While I do have a retirement account, I've been pondering how increasing wealth has any effect in the "to increase for His kingdom" when His kingdom is not wealth?  

For there are those who hunger now. 

The way I see it is a broke Christian can't bless others in need.

John 10:10 "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy" 

Two years ago when I sensed something wrong with covid, especially the way the media tried to fear me. I started looking to get healthy thru youtube. I was shocked to find that most diseases are reversible and the science has been out for 10 years. Not to mention the food cabal. I regret not knowing sooner because my 92 year old mother would have had a better quality of life with her great-grandkids. 

It wasn't till then I realize satan was attacking my health and finances because I was distracted by petty issues against my neighbor. So I decided to steal back my health and my children's inheritance and live an abundant life. We mustn't forget the Ukraine bio lab is in a war zone! I pray that all my neighbors are in health, in Jesus's name! Reverse my diabetes/wife's blood pressure and it works. 

Trigger Warning: Some statements may affect your tribal stance in the bible, mine was evolution.

And I thought fasting was a spiritual thing. Peace

5 hours ago, Jayne said:

I guess I haven't made myself clear on what you are claiming here.  What does the last twenty years have to do with people my age taking the SOLE blame for the sins of the world?

This is what you have been claiming, right?  That the devil has run amuck because of people born between 1946 and 1964.  That no other generation has any sin? 

 

 

We happen to be a large generation of Christians and I can only speak to what I've observed and I can't pawn blame on anyone else. When did the media start its rash of lies?  Now openly lying politicians and media with no Christian organization holding them accountable. Or maybe were too dumb to recognize the lies. BTW, we are all sinners. Peace

3 hours ago, TheBlade said:

Lol I like this and agree "It's the article here  - "the".  You said in your title that us boomers are "THE" lukewarm generation.  That's insulting and a lie."

See when we read Rev 1-3 we just don't see "generations". "If" I believe it is, the last days then "we" are the lukewarm "if" we look at the seven Churches in "ages". Since we don't know its just speculation.

Who doesn't like to read Christ praising some Church and thinking "yep... I knew that was my Church, its me He's talking about" haha. 

Tell me how we aren't before calling me a liar. What issues are we Hot with? No man with a rational mind as a Christian can say we are moving society in a Godly way. We have kids in their 30s cant you imagine 20 years from now if we continue sitting on our hands? I can see the future just by the way we are acting today. You'll have to do your own study in the last days. I find it fast approaching. Peace 

13 hours ago, farouk said:

I guess I don't strictly take the historicist view of the Letters to the Seven Churches of Asia; after all, while Laodicean lukewarmness is certainly around overwhelmingly today, yet it was there also in Laodicea in the first century............

Yes, there were always fence riders. It matters today to me in a spiritual sense how could I be so cold in resisting the devil's lies. This lunacy didn't start overnight. Peace

Just now, farouk said:

@Believer112 Congrats. on your new found grandchildren! I'm sure you keep praying for them.

It's a trip! God has given me a glimpse of Agape, Praise the Lord! 

10 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Inheritance? An inheritance  is a nice thing to receive. Doesn't much matter how it gets used it is still a nice thing to have received.

Regardless of any earthly source of gain, my own prefect provision comes from God alone. God's provision is always perfect for me. It may not be what I may have thought I needed or wanted, but as has been shown to me, in the light of the history of my own personal awareness, it has  always been perfect.

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/four-truths-about-gods-provision

10 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hebrews 1 is a great exposition of the theme of inheritance....

I'm just trying to imitate the Lord and He wouldn't expect me to love my kids any less. After all a Good man leaves an inheritance to his grandkids. Knew about it but didn't realize it till I had grandkids. Another thing I realized was my ignorance of health and the economy. Research you'll find the enemy.

6 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Believer112 This was the title or similar to a book by Torie Clarke, who served as an Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the US Department of Defense. It basically described what she thought of journalists, but also underlined the need to be nice to them publicly.....

As of late, I've learned to love my neighbor. So I think every human being or creation deserves genuine love. God is helping me identify my tribalism in beliefs. The information we receive shapes us and can confuse us thru propaganda. It's not the person's fault for who they are but the evil system of information creating this confusion. Peace

7 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @Believer112 FYI...................poll started, above.

Seems like a lot of Christians find a tattoo an effective way of expressing a Bible verse that is close to their hearts. Like Willa's family does, for example.

My wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure other conversations have ensued as a result also.

I believe anything to draw curiosity and hopefully draw a conversation. The Word is being hidden as time marches on. But the conversation can't happen till we lose our tribalistic nature. 

10 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Believer112 John 17.12 speaks of 'the son of perdition'.

Judas repented the wrong way by paying back instead of going to the only One that could save him. Don't we all have the sons of perdition nature in us? We just need to overcome. Peace

13 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Here's  my problem with your multiple posts showing your disdain for people my age.

It's the article here  - "the".  You said in your title that us boomers are "THE" lukewarm generation.  That's insulting and a lie.

Each generation has its good points and its bad points.  For every one of your slams against boomers, I could list 100 wonderful and Godly things people in  my generation have done for the cause of Christ and aid to humanity.  We aren't perfect ....... but ........

 

......we are NOT the the SOLE generation that is sending the world to hell in a handbasket.  And I can't figure out why you blame us all for the sins of the world?

I'm sorry if you were offended but you can't deny the last 20 years. I will not put lipstick on a pig. An honest reflection on history will show you the truth. How did lies become normal? Peace

5 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Some years ago, I wrote a dull primer on the secular history and progression related to a part of your OP topic. Few are interested or concerned about why and how we reached this greedy complex financial global banking system.

I call this generation “the NOW generation,” consumed with consumerism. People today want instant gratification, living beyond their financial means in deep debt and keeping up with the Joneses and their friends and peers.

Hindsight is 20/20. I took a hard secular and biblical observation of how we arrived at where we are today fiscally if anyone cares to read it below.  It all boils down to greed, control, power, the human heart, an aversion to labor, and, most importantly, rebellion against a righteous God.

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THE HISTORY OF MONEY and WHERE WE ARE HEADING

A Brief Primer:

July 2010

Our predicament may have been delayed or avoided if Aaron Burr had dispatched Alexandar Hamilton several years before their dual. Hamilton was an ardent supporter of big banks and had President George Washington's ear.

Since the creation of man, gold, and silver have always been and will continue to be the only real money. Its rarity and labor in mining, refining, and smelting make it extremely valuable. Any other representation of gold and silver is pseudo currency. Money represents work and stored labor; money is a medium of exchange for goods and services. How did the world get to where we are today? More importantly, where are we heading, according to the Bible?

 Barter and the need for a medium of exchange and the division of labor and the creation of currency:

Miles down the road from me, Douglas has a surplus of beef, cows, and milk. In the other direction from me, several miles away, Larry and Geraldine have plenty of corn; they also operate a grist mill. I have an abundance of chicken, hens, and eggs.

One morning the "Queen of the Roost" wakes me up even before the rooster crow. She hungers for steak and eggs, cornbread, and milk for her breakfast. I hook the horses up to the wagon to the Douglas ranch to barter for beef and dairy, but how many chickens and eggs will it take to get what the Princess wants?

I then decide to go to Larry & Geraldine's grist mill first to get some ground-up corn while I ponder upon it, but I again get the same question: how many chickens and eggs do I need to trade for?

I changed my mind and decided to go to the Douglas Ranch first. I loaded up 100 chickens and 25 dozen eggs to see what I can barter for. Douglas, being a fair and honest man, says; that is too much for what I want. For just 50 chickens and ten dozen eggs, I can have one of his milk cows and a side of beef.

I load up the beef into the wagon along with the extra chickens and eggs and hook the cow to the wagon and start my three-hour trek home to make my Queen for a day happy. On my journey home, I can only think of how inconvenient and time-consuming all this was for some beef and milk. Now I must do the same thing for some corn flour after I unload at home; there has got to be a better way; that wasn't very efficient. I also think I need to borrow a couple of the Nanney's goats to mow my lawn to keep up with the Jones's. I wonder how many eggs I will need for that?

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Work was never intended to be burdensome or miserable. Work was designed to be productive, a blessing, a joy, and give satisfaction until the fall of Adam & Eve, with God's curse of the land. Man can be inheritable lazy and will look for ways to make a living and profit from others' manual labor.

 The creation of money as a divisible medium of exchange for taxes, goods, and services:

Creating "money' solved the issue and made it efficient and convenient for the division of labor and stored wealth from work. But like all other inventions of man, it will be used and abused.

Proverbs 16:11  A just weight and balance are the LORD'S: all the weights of the bag are his work.

Man is lazy by nature; given the opportunity, he will do his best not to make a living by the sweat of his brow but make a living on the backs of those who work and are productive and invent ways and means to accomplish that. [ii]

From the beginning, gold and silver were money traded for taxes, goods, and services by weight. Eventually, the precious metals were hammered, stamped, denominated by size and weight, and legalized as legal tender. It was an efficient and convenient way and method of bartering and paying taxes. Initially, these precious metal coins did not have reeded edges. To finance the King's war, the King decided to 'shave' off bits of the edges of the precious metal coins. Thus, the coins grew smaller and of less value. Others noticed what the King was doing and got into action, thus further devaluing and shaving the coinage. The wise King said I'd show them who's boss and more innovative, I'll reduce the coin's silver content from 90% to 40% and keep the 50% for myself. That is called debasing the coinage/currency; others followed what the King did by counterfeiting the coinage.

Next, the King decided to do away with all precious metal in the coinage and create fiat money representing the real thing with no backing other than a promise to pay, an I.O.U. Sound familiar?

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

The history of the world is replete with doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ A. Einstein

Globally, particularly the United States, for example, started with a just, fair, balanced, stable, and sustaining economic and trade system. That was until Congress delegated the Constitutional authority away granted only to them under the Constitution of the United States, Section 7. To a private banking institution run by greedy private and foreign bankers such as the Rothschilds titled; the United States Federal Reserve System. There is nothing federal about them, and they have no reserves; they are a conglomerate of privately owned banks. They dictate American economic policy and establish everything monetary instead of the negligent Congress, as our founding documents require.

At this point, I would like to inject we have only three legal and binding documents, the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States of America, and the Bill of Rights. As we see and hear today, our government masters are subverting the Constitution and the laws of the land. They openly claim our Constitution is outdated and inadequate in the modern times in which we live.

Since then, they have done away with the 'gold standard,' currency of silver and gold certificates backed by gold and silver. At one time, you could go to most banks and exchange that bill for the equivalent of gold or silver, but not anymore. Today, look at your dollar bill and read what it owes you. It owes you 'nothing' and is worth nothing but the good faith and 'credit' of the United States. Look at all the "Trillions" of good faith and credit debt we are in today. Fort Knox gold has not been seen nor audited in decades, even though powerful Congressmen have tried. Where is the gold?

In 1965 the United States stopped making 90% silver coinage for all legal tender, public and private, and went to a less expensive clad coinage, thus devaluing and debasing our coinage. In 1982 they debased the one-cent copper coin because it was more costly to produce than the value of the cent itself. The base metal used since 1982 is now zinc, which many call Zincons. At this writing, those pre-1982 copper cents are worth three cents, three times their face value in smelted copper. Naturally, Congress passed a law-making smelting and selling this coinage copper illegally.

Our entire national and global monetary system is now dependent on the good faith and credit of the United States of America. Soon the U.S. Dollar will not be the world's reserve currency, and buying oil with the U.S. Dollar will cease to be another form of payment. It will devastate the US. and contribute to our economic house of cards falling.

The banking system:

One day a striving entrepreneur named Joe Schmoe saw an opportunity to make a living off the sweat of other laborers' brows. He bought a colossal well-made, secure safe and said he would secure and protect the public's valuable gold and silver if they entrust it to him. By doing so, he would give them 1% yearly in interest.

Now Mr. Schmoe was no dummy and knew how to bilk his customers out of everything they had. He would loan twenty percent (fractional reserve) of his precious metal coinage money at a 5% annual interest rate, secured by something tangible, such as homes, property, horses, etc. Many started to fall into hard times, could not make loan payments on time, and defaulted. So, Mr. Greedy Joe Schmoe, by force of law, immediately took possession of their collateral. Mr. Schmoe was now the wealthiest citizen in town; now, he wanted to be the wealthiest citizen in the state.

Then another greedy thought occurred to him; I'll lend out 1,000 percent of what I have stored in the safe, backed by nothing, and make a massive profit in interest loans. I will call it fractional banking, and these debit loans will be counted as assets on my books. I will accomplish this all on paper, just paper entries, and become wealthy beyond imagination. More and more people fell into hard times, and Joe Schmoe and the bank collected more and more homes and property and resold them for even more significant profit margins. (The Great Depression).

One day there was a bank robbery, and all the town's money was stolen. The town found out about it, and there was a run on the bank to get their money out. There was nothing in the safe but hundreds of I.O.U.’S. The people lost all their hard-earned savings stored at the bank and were desperate. They ran the banker out of town, but of course, he was filthy rich and did not care; he moved on to another city where he wasn't known and started his scheme all over again. The town was financially destroyed, and there was no money to spend on food, employment, and commerce, so it became a ghost town.

So, what does all the preceding have to do with the Book of Revelation? There is nothing new under the sun; more and more people nationally and globally want to make a living off the backs of others, and it's called handouts, welfare, and socialism; and it's spreading like wildfire. Bankers, the elite, and globalists are as greedy as ever and want to control the world.

A government does not produce one barrel of oil or one wheat bushel; they derive wealth from taxing, borrowing, or printing it. In all cases, the individual citizen is legally liable for all debts, public and private. We now have a global government and banking institutions (World Bank, International Monetary Fund, W.E.F., etc.) ready for the New World Order. We were just one major crisis away from implementing this system and God's timing. [iii]

Edit March 2023: A digital currency and a cashless system are about to be implemented (the Great Reset, Agenda 2030).

 

Fractional Reserve Banking:

We are known to have what is called "a debt-based economy." Did you know money does grow on trees? Fractional reserve banking requires that a bank or lending institution have a certain percentage of deposits to back up loans. Over time, this percentage has dwindled lower and lower, and I believe it stands now at 7%.

That means 93% of the money you borrow from a bank does not exist, it is created out of thin air, and the deficits are recorded as assets on the books. That money representing stored labor never existed until you borrowed it into existence. Then they have the gall to charge you usury up to the legal limit of 25% of that money you borrowed that never existed.

That is how money enters the system and the debt-based economy operates. Spending and debt are our measurements of growth and success. When the news and government talk about economic growth or stagnation, they measure how much the government and public borrow and spend. If the public does not borrow and spend it, the government will. The more we borrow into indebtedness and spend, the better our prosperity and outlook. Such a system where savings and personal financial responsibility are discouraged, and commercialism and consumption are our survival.

A government reflects its people and represents them. Each American citizen is legally liable and bound for all public and private debt incurred by their government. To date, every U.S. citizen, every man, woman, and child in this country is indebted for well over $100,000 individually on what the government owes and has borrowed and printed [think inflation]. The more of something there is, the less valuable it becomes. With the existing responsibilities of entitlement programs, much less the proposed government programs of free healthcare, social security, college education, and socialist programs, giving billions to many nations to influence them, we are already doomed.

Ever notice when Congress legislates, or by President by Executive Order, that dramatically affects the well-being and lives of their constituents, they permanently exempt themselves from that law? The elite rulers do not want to be under the taxing statutes and programs they pass. There are many, but two major ones are Social Security and Obamacare. They are the only group who get raises unless they vote it down. Look at all the poor people who have become Congressmen and became multi-millionaires. How do you do that with public servant pay? Recently Bernie Sanders came to mind. 

This 'free bread and circuses' cannot last forever; there is a point and crisis where we pay the piper. China and other countries own many assets and businesses in the U.S., and our bonds and treasury notes can be called in at any time. We have borrowed hundreds of billions from foreign countries through bonds and securities to finance our lavish lifestyles. A time is coming when they will demand immediate payment. One economic event can cause our fragile house of cards to collapse. I believe this will happen soon, and there is a system in place to replace this one, and the system and person will be the New World Order, followed by the Antichrist.

 

 

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Grossly paraphrased from: Constitutional Income: Do you have any. Phil Hart, 3^rd Edition.

[ii] The LAW, Frederic Bastiat

[iii] The Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin

 

 

 

 

I am ashamed of myself for being ignorant and not looking for the schemes of the devil. I kinda knew but after all I was a lukewarm Christan. Steal, Kill, and Destroy we were warned to identify satan, and yet satan currently is stealing finances or gifts for your kids, killing you through the foods you eat. I spiritualized satan and dropped the ball.

8 hours ago, AnOrangeCat said:

"I pretty strongly believe this too. A lot of our food is nutritionally subpar at best and slowly damaging us at worst. Diet isn't everything but it is a very important element for sure."

A week or two again Jerome Powell was testifying before congress and they gave him so low grade scolding, near the end basically accusing him of enabling some of the problems and exploitative practices in our banks. But they also really wanted to know how it was possible that in his past testimony he said things were under control and then two days later we had banks going under and everyone was blindsided by it. But despite the scolding and the calls for accountability it seems actual accountability isn't desired and things just go on.

Food is the problem! God has made an amazing spirit house. Just watch some videos on fasting, how your body switches fuel sources, homeostasis (maintains balance), need for stressors (starvation, physical activity, heat/cold). 

Would you believe me if I told you the Federal Reserve (400 PhD. ?) doesn't know what they are doing?  Watch a few episodes of eurodollar university and you'll be convinced because they use lagging data. It'll also piss you off about our neighbor's suffing because of their misjudgment. But the antichrist will need more money to amass power in this world. Father of Lies has to do it the worldly way because he's no God. Peace

4 hours ago, JimmyB said:

I am truly sorry that life is such a disappointment for you.  I am slightly older than the "baby boomer" generation, but close enough (born 1943).  I have loved life, especially since becoming a Christian in 1977.  Although the US has had its share of problems -- what country hasn't? -- I can't imagine living anywhere else (and I have traveled to Europe many times, as well as Central and South America.)  

I'm am comfortable leaving my grandkids in this social environment.  In fact, they are visiting right now and are having a wonderful time.  They go swimming with their friends and tomorrow my grandson is going to camp.

Like most older Americans, I interact with healthcare and am satisfied 95% of the time.  From triple bypass surgery to cataract surgery to general care, it has been excellent overall.  It is most definitely not designed to kill you. 

And I fully intend to leave an inheritance to your grandkids.

I am very sorry that your outlook on life is so very dismal.  I suggest reading your Bible, praying, and thanking God for your blessings.

Dude, you got me all wrong, life hasn't disappointed me but I disappointed Christianity. All the lies allowed today are a reflection of my and others' Christianity 15+ years ago. Do we have to have a triple bypass? If you research today's science on diseases most can be reversed, metabolic syndrome. Youtube "reversing diabetes," tell your neighbors because the evil one never quits till he gets caught.

3 hours ago, Sower said:

Boomer generation is the lukewarm generation

I disagree. Read your American history book if you can find one that has not been changed/censored to suit the political left's government run schools. I just missed the silent generation one year, and there was a huge change in the American economics, and not even lukewarm.

Greatest Generation: Born 1901-1924.

Silent Generation: Born 1925-1945.

Baby Boomers: Born 1946-1964.

Generation X: Born 1965-1980.

Millennials: Born 1981-1996.

Generation Z: Born 1997-2012.

Generation Alpha: Born 2013-2025

Me too. Thanks

1 hour ago, warrior12 said:

What does scripture teaches us how to stand against the devil ?. Could you find any that does this and how we are to react ?.

Yes, we are to be salt. How do you view this approach ?. Is it by letting your changed life radiate by living the gospel in truth and spirit ?.  

You did not bring your grandchildren into the world, they are a gift from God to you, this is the way you have to look at them.  Yes, the world is in turmoil, and you are to be that salt that you spoke of to occupy, teach, and be like that candle that is not hidden under the bed, but is put on a lampstand to radiate its light.

We do not fight against flesh and blood, but the spiritual host of wickedness in hight places. Ephesian 6 as you so mention as the armor of God has to be in the forefront of the believer mind or he will choose to war in worldly manner.

Praise God for my grandchildren! It's the devil's scheme into setting up his governmental system. I am old enough to remember when the lies started creeping in. The armor is there for fighting there's no spiritualizing that away. 

Don't fight against flesh and blood but we do! This is the main distraction.

Wickedness in high places isn't out there somewhere but right where the ruler of the world resides or his spirit. Our real battle is against the lies in biology and in science in general, it all depends on what tribe you belong to. Lies in the media, Lies about your health, lies about the global economic crisis, lies if Ukraine..... In other words bring light to darkness. I don't see any Christian organizations suing the government for allowing misinformation. Stand up for the truth! Peace

A verse popped into my head last year about leaving grandkids an inheritance and it made me think. What have I left them? Financially more if I would have educated myself 10 years earlier. But today's lunacy isn't normal and it's continuously evolving. I'm not comfortable leaving my grandkids in this satanic environment of confusion. No one is demanding truth and now science is distorted, especially biology. We became complacent in resisting the devil. Honest reflection (I call it my pre-life review) on your history and you'll find this lunacy has happened on our watch. We didn't catch the wiles of the devil but it's not too late to show God we are not cold and we understand Eph. 6. Your grandbabies depend on it. 

I also learned the devil's tentacles in Healthcare and macroeconomics that the system is against our neighbors and ourselves. Kill, steal and destroy feared me into believing them. 

The healthcare (caused by big food)cabal is designed to kill you. Because of the media's fear of covid, I started to look up videos on immunity. I was shocked that there has been science out on reversing diabetes and many other common diseases for 10 years. The Liar doesn't want you to leave an inheritance to your grandkids. He wants the nursing homes to get that property. I pray that all of you will be in health to live another 30 years to watch them babies have your great grandbabies. Fasting repairs the body. Our brains are finally learning God's handiwork in this wonderful machine.

Macroeconomics: In 2022 my 401k went down and it shocked me. I started listening to small-time fund managers like Steven Van Metre (news), David Lin (host), Lance Roberts and many of their friends taught me how to protect myself and the seriousness of this Global debt bubble. It was naive of me to think the politicians knew what they were doing in fiscal policy.  If you research you'll find the federal reserve caused pretty much every recession which has caused thousands of Americans to lose their jobs and some never recover (homelessness).

I blame myself for my ignorance and now I learned that Jesus didn't want us to be ignorant, period! 

Lukewarm= Hot on the issues that go against our neighbors, serving gay weddings, abortion even debating atheists, its all part of our flesh and our tribal nature. God knew our nature that's why He commanded us to love our neighbor. 

Cold on the lies of the devil thru organizations and media. You know how impressionable kids are maybe that's why the youth are acting out. Look what's spewed on the media. 

10 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Do what every believer is supposed to do.  Be a witness in your walk in life and when the opportunity arise, not forgetting to be gentle as a dove and wise as a serpent, so said scripture.   

Remember, you are not sure to be here tomorrow, not particularly because of the rapture and such, but by circumstances that just happens .  

Aren't we supposed to oppose the devil? Seems we a lukewarm in attacking satans system. Aren't we supposed to be the salt? We are definitely not attacking his lies. I'd like to know where we are. When I look into my grandchildren's eyes I'm ashamed of the world I brought them. I am from the church of Laodicea maybe cause of waiting singing Kum Ba Ya. Most of us boomers have thrown the armor of God in the closet. I didn't polish mine till last year shamefully. Peace

3 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

NDE may be right may be wrong what could i say how should i know.

With a biblical base and some critical thinking, you can make a decision.

1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said:

They must not be bad enough because they are overcome by their enemies 

Elijah never lost a fight

Mosus never lost a fight

The two gentiles in revelation 11 lose.They must have just wanted to be bad.

The Revelation prophesy is told and I'm not going to question it. Everything we say about a future prophesy is conjecture until it happens. God knows! Critically thinking also it will not be unrealistic to have advanced weapons by then. Look at how AI is exploding! Peace