Biscuit

I sometimes play the audio Bible at night. I often wake up to a certain Bible verse or there may be a "quickening" to a certain Bible verse? It can sometimes be something that makes me feel bad like "you will be repaid evil according to your wickedness".

We had gone to a couple of people for prayer/deliverance. And were planning to go to another healing room/deliverance ministry. I also woke up to these verses last night.

"So the Lord said to the children of Israel, "Did I not deliver you from the Egyptians and the Amorites and from the people of Ammon and the Philistines? Also the Sidonians and Amalekites and Maonites oppressed you; and you cried out to Me, and I delivered you from their hand. Yet you have forsaken me and served other gods. Therefore I will deliver you no more."

Has anyone else encountered this? Do you think this is from God or the enemy? Would God be upset about this (maybe seeking man more than God) or is the enemy trying to mess with our heads to prevent us from going anywhere else?

I wanted to ask what some of you think about "deliverance ministries". Is it seeking man instead of God? Or is it the Holy Spirit working thru the vessel of a man? I know some of these ministries seem "out there" but there are others that seem more legitimate. (i.e. look on Facebook for DeGraw Ministries - Healing and Deliverance). Is this a gift of the Holy Spirit? Or do some of these people have gifts such as discernment or word of knowledge (or prophecy) that enables such a ministry.

I feel like I am in bondage (I think due to some old hurts). I have not been baptized with the Holy Ghost and do not hear His voice as some people hear. It seems it would be an advantage if the Holy Spirit is able to legitimately talk or work thru a person. Thoughts? I am close to the DFW area.

I'm asking for prayers. There is a spirit of some kind that is messing with my sleep. It may be a thorn in the flesh. Also, fiery darts steadily coming. I am now on nerve pills and sleeping pills. I really hate to do so, but am supposed to go to a psychiatrist next week. Someone at church has been praying hard for me. He said the Lord told him that my heart is not right. I have some very ungodly thoughts, including some sexual and some against the Lord.

I lost my Mom, wife, dog, job, Dad in 2012-3. I have an adult son that needs help that I am trying to care for.

I am listening to audio Bible a lot and pray. Would appreciate prayers that God will be merciful and let me make it thru this and that He will remove any wickedness from my heart and mind. I don't do anything I can think of as far as external sin but I do have the bad thoughts. Not sure if they are from my flesh or from the enemy. I'm also not sure if I have forgiven myself and God about my wife's death, but have prayed about this. My heart seems hard so I don't feel much anymore.

Would appreciate prayers for God's mercy, healing, deliverance, getting rid of the thoughts, and that my heart be tender again (and be made right in God's sight).

I've reached a point where there is not a lot of sin in my life (especially compared to the past). I'm not certain if it is due to sanctification or just the fact that I don't do much anymore. Lately, I watch one episode a day of something like Dr. Quinn or A-team. The rest of my time for a few weeks now has been listening to audio Bible, Christian music, etc.

However, I have a lot of ungodly thoughts of various kinds (bad thoughts against God, bad sexual thoughts, etc.). I don't know if these thoughts are my own or if they are "fiery darts" from the enemy. How would I know the source of these thoughts? If these thoughts are my own, how would I eliminate them? If I continue to listen to the Bible, would there be a point at which I would be cleansed of these thoughts? It concerns me because I know Jesus spoke about how it is sin just to have certain thoughts. I am also concerned about purity.

I lost my Mom, wife, job, and Dad in a one year period in 2012-2013. I was not close to my Dad. I have not gone back to work yet but hope to soon. I do not hear God's still small voice, so really have no way to communicate with God other than prayer and via things that are spoken at church.

Does anyone else have this problem or any insight? Thank you.

I've been going thru a storm for several months now. It's still not over, but God has given me so much more peace now than when it first started and I just about lost it. I am learning to trust Him more and am growing in faith and patience.

Job was a man he was able to take a lot.

I am just a woman ...and now with age , not healthy either.

I am with a heavy heart and load, crying all the time about the burdens.

To the end of having to constantly taking this beating from God or the devil He created.

Where is the restoration He promises for me, while living here on earth ?

Read Foxes book of martyrs and you tell me... Loved one we all have had

hard roads! To take our eyes off Christ to examine the lives around us as to who

has it the worst~ I think a mistake... For the life of Christ here- WAS- the hardest of

all! So We all bear to some measure according to His Will that fellowship of suffering

as His children

Love, Steven

Yes .. i know that people experience hardships , burdens, and tribulations .

But, that is why I am asking ...

is it all the time ? Like I am experiencing .

Love Songs,

I will be praying for you. I have had a lot going on too. I have had problems but it seems like God only "enlightened" me or took the scales off my eyes recently. Since June, my Mom died, my wife died, I lost my job, night terrors/panics. The day of my Mom's funeral, I even lost my dog and my brother tried to start a fight with me in the church parking lot over some pictures. I'm now taking antidepressant and anxiety meds. Now my son (who has Chrohns) said that he has an "impression" that his next colonoscopy is going to show bad results (i.e. cancer).....something that is going to change our lives. Anyway, God is communicating with us at times and I am just taking one day at a time. I believe He wanted me to grow up and focus much less on the world. I am getting older too (almost 50), so this can tend to wear u down a little easier. I hope and pray that this is only a season you are going thru and that things start to ease up soon. There are a lot of people hurting now. Hang in there and keep looking up.

James

Thanks so much for that info, GE. They actually meet in my town each week. I will check it out further.

Joi and BlessedByTheBest,

My son said that God told him that I haven't forgiven my wife (passed away in August) and that I need to think good thoughts about her. She had mental/spiritual problems for years and was hard and insulting toward us at times (especially our son the last 2 or 3 years). This may be true. I have tried not to think of her much since the funeral. Maybe we need to look at more old photos or videos. I know I have no right, but may also have bad feelings toward God over some things that have happened recently.

Biscuit

Sounds like you've been through a lot brother. Sorry for the loss of your wife. Praying.

Have you considered going to a Biblical/Christian Counselor? Some thoughts of encouragement for you from God's Word.

Psalm 23:4 Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

Psalm 34:8 Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.

Psalm 34:19 The righteous person may have many troubles, but the LORD delivers him from them all;

Psalm 37:4 Take delight in the LORD, and he will give you the desires of your heart.

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

Matthew 11:28 Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him who have been called according to his purpose.

Philippians 4:6-7 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 16:3 Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and he will establish your plans.

God bless,

GE

Thanks, GE. I have 3 more sessions set up with a Christian counselor before the end of the year. I don't know if I can go any after December. I lost my job in September. I think I can keep the insurance via COBRA, but probably won't pay the $6000 deductible that starts over in January. I also have a time set up to meet with my pastor. Thank you for the verses.

Joi and BlessedByTheBest,

My son said that God told him that I haven't forgiven my wife (passed away in August) and that I need to think good thoughts about her. She had mental/spiritual problems for years and was hard and insulting toward us at times (especially our son the last 2 or 3 years). This may be true. I have tried not to think of her much since the funeral. Maybe we need to look at more old photos or videos. I know I have no right, but may also have bad feelings toward God over some things that have happened recently.

Biscuit, it is sounding like you might have an endocrine imbalance? Perhaps do a search on hypothyroidism and see if you express the symptoms listed? Or something like that? I know low thyroid can result in depression feelings, or lack there-of.

I wish it was something that easy. I feel that God is revealing to me that my heart is very hard. I am not in touch with my emotions and cannot figure out why. I don't know if it is due to unforgiveness, bitterness, or what. And toward whom. Am I unforgiving toward God? Toward my deceased spouse? Deceased mother? Someone else? I can't shed a tear. I play my audio Bible at night and just woke up to Romans 2:5-8 (not the first time). I can pray forgiveness (say the words) but am I not truly forgiving? I don't trust my heart and have no emotions, so I do not know. How is this "fixed"? There is a block. Please pray that God would give me a tender heart, but especially that He would restore my emotions and teach me how to TRULY repent (not just say the words) and what to repent for. How do I get out of this prison? Also, my ears ring very loudly. Thank you.

Hi Biscuit -

I'm preaching to myself with this, but I am thinking something that would help is to get into the habit of being thankful. Every morning, thank the Lord for what you have - even if you aren't satisfied with these things (i.e. my car is very old and has some issues, but it runs well, so I can be thankful for my car).

I'm trying to get into this habit myself. But I am thinking it would benefit your heart as well.

Amen Nebula, I do this everyday beginning with my morning shower where I thank God for soap, hot water, indoor plumbing etc. I take time to thank him for the difficulties in my life and the power he gives me to overcome them or the knowledge of the upcoming deliverance from all that ails. I end up on fire for God when I am truly thankful for ALL things.

A tender heart also comes from recognizing the truth about that which my heart is hardened against. Especially when it comes to people who also have hard hearts. Interceding for them in prayer that the Lord might soften their heart or create in them a clean heart so they won't be so miserable helps me to see them differently. Praying against the principalities and powers, the rulers of darkness in high places also helps me to place the blame where it truly belongs, and that on those who distort the truth through lies without our ever being able to see them.

You sound blessed, Gary. I hope I can get to the point that I am "on fire". I took a walk today and was thanking God for the pretty trees, nice weather, flowers, etc. I also thank Him for meals, roof over our head, that my son is doing better, etc. At times, I feel like I am merely saying the words without a lot of emotion behind them.....hard to explain.

God will not fail you Biscuit. You shall arrive soon . . .

Joi,

Wanted to add that God was really moving in a recent church service. There were 3 interpretations and I can only recall 2 of them.

(1st one) If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves, pray, seek My face, if they will turn from their evil ways, I the Lord will hear them and will heal their land. Call upon Me, worship Me, Magnify My glorious Name sayeth the Lord of Hosts, and I will respond to your need.

(2^nd one) “Do not doubt in your heart for u have said I have tried this but the way seems too hard, I say to you, the way of the transgressor is hard, if u will walk in obedience to my word on a daily basis, I the Lord will be your provider and your protector, I will meet your needs and I will supply them, sayeth the Lord.”

I feel the 2nd one was definitely directed at me, since I had almost given up at that point and was mostly laying around on the couch during the day. Something changed recently when the pastor laid hands on me and prayed. I feel different and have trouble going back to sleep in the morning, even if I try....kind of like a heaviness lifted. The pastor discerned something and said that I would be having more good days/stretches. He also said that I have the knowledge in my head but it has to get into my heart.

I am going to keep trying.....I just hope and pray that I get more emotional. I feel like a robot at this point. I also hope I can keep from drifting toward becoming more worldly.

I have hardly any sin in my life at this point (I don't even watch TV or movies any more), other than my thoughts. I have sexual thoughts which I can't seem to control at times. These thoughts are sometimes against God. I don't know if these thoughts come from the enemy or the flesh. You may be right in your PM that I may be bitter.....I may have some unresolved bitterness toward God, or one of my relatives who recently passed away. I hope not. I am going to pray for Him to help "redefine" these emotions since I don't trust my heart/emotions any more and to help me get over any unresolved bitterness.

Hi Biscuit -

I'm preaching to myself with this, but I am thinking something that would help is to get into the habit of being thankful. Every morning, thank the Lord for what you have - even if you aren't satisfied with these things (i.e. my car is very old and has some issues, but it runs well, so I can be thankful for my car).

I'm trying to get into this habit myself. But I am thinking it would benefit your heart as well.

My pastor recently preached on praising more and thanking Him more. I have been trying to do so. It is difficult when, most of the time, I am emotionless and feel nothing. I see people at church who are full of joy and their praise and worship is effortless. A song is not needed to "prime" their praise and thanksgiving. I feel I took a wrong turn somewhere in life. I now feel (and am thankful) that I will survive these trials/chastening, but I feel so empty and worldly. And my heart still seems hardened. These recent events helped me to realize how spiritually void that I am, and maybe this is what God wanted me to realize. I will keep trying.

Biscuit, if you hold on to any bitterness about things in your life you will be hardened.

It will not go away until you tell God what you are bitter about and ask Him to help you let go of that bitterness.

Like other one I now find myself crying in places others would think I am crazy for. God has given me a heart

that is tender and sometimes the tears come at the least desirable times, nevertheless I am grateful to Him and

can never get enough of His filling.

I pray that where grace can find a way that you find love, forgiveness, compassion and a tender heart, for Christ's sake.

[[hugs]]

Thank you, joi. I lost my Mom, wife, job recently and some other things happened. You may be right. I tried to forgive everyone (including God). It's hard to tell if I am bitter. I don't trust my feelings or my heart, so maybe I am.

My heart is hard and I can't even seem to cry. Life events I guess. Besides praying to God, what can I do so that my heart will be tender again? I sometimes want to pray fervently, which is difficult when you can't shed a tear. My son and I are supposed to be going to a counselor soon, but is almost 3 weeks away. He seems to have a hard heart also. Was wondering if anyone has gone thru this or has any advice.

Hello Biscuit, it seems like you have gotten pretty good advice! Sorry I am so late on a response, with that being said how are you doing currently?

God bless you

Hi Jacob,

You are right. Good advice. No real changes that I can tell. Maybe it will come with time. God bless.

not really, this wasnt the government governing it-it was a private care system, and private businesses have the right to hire and fire as they please if you ask me. I mean serious, would you want to go to the doctor, and worry about geting the flu from it? If a private employer, especially one in the health care business, wants to require flu shots for their employees if they want to keep their job, thats their right. If it was the government requiring them, then I would agree with you, but its not its a private business, if the employees dont like the policy, then they can go work somewhere else.

I would assume businesses like that got along just fine before there were flu shots. Also, flu shots are based on the best guess as to what strain of flu will hit that year. Trampling on my freedom for the sake of a guess is not acceptable.

Good point. The flu shot only hits 3 or 4 strains out of the dozens and dozens of strains out there.....sort of like Russian Roulette. Flu shots and vaccinations can contain such ingredients as thimerosal (mercury), aluminum, propylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde (embalming fluid), foreign monkey protein, fetal cells, etc. I would prefer to trust the immune system that God gave me. A company such as this one should have no problem signing an agreement that they will be responsible for any adverse effects caused by the injection. There are many parents and physicians who think that autism is "triggered" by vaccinations. It would be wise to ask the nurse or individual who administers such an injection for a list of ingredients contained in the injection.

It is possible that I simply heard wrong or misunderstood and judged too quickly. I will pray about it.

Biscuit, it really sounds like you are in the wrong place, no matter what others have told you. The thought that someone would try to cast out the Holy Spirit speaks loudly about the place you are at. There is no mimicking the Holly Spirit in a persons life. When you accepted Jesus as your Savior, He sealed you with the Holy Spirit. Satan can disguise himself as an angle of light, but God would never allow him to enter you while claiming to be the Holy Spirit.

This is some of the most ludicrous things I have heard someone who calls themselves Christians try to do to another believer.

Thanks, OneLight. I am honestly not sure what he meant by "false anointing". He said he did not recall that when I questioned him. I may have heard him wrong or it may have been the other gentleman. One of them did have a lot of discernment. We are going to a general worship service this morning and then leaving. My son can hear God's voice at times and He said we should not stay for the next deliverance service. The people there are from different places. I get a good feel about some of them. I hope I have not done anything too wrong or which has offended God. When my son questioned God, He said "Nothing bad happened. You worry too much. Fear not." Please pray that any ties between my son and I and these men be broken. We have had enough problems without any new ones.

I have another concern. I am a mess and hope to get my life straightened out one day.

I am currently at a "deliverance ministry". The ministers were discerning a number of things to attempt to "cast out". I recall one of them mentioning 'false anointing'. I thought he was talking about applying oil to the forehead. I was looking and it could also mean the filling of the Holy Spirit. Can a person 'cast' the Holy Spirit out of you? It concerns me if this man was trying to cast the Holy Spirit out of me. I don't hear God's voice, but it does not mean that the Holy Spirit is not in me. If he had cast it out, would i even be concerned about it like I am now? Is it possible for man to remove the Holy Spirit against God's will? I asked the minister about it tonite and he said he could not recall anything about false anointing. I don't think I am going back after that.

James my dear brother, sorry to hear that this is still going on. I am praying God will stop this immediately but while we wait know that I share your pain. I still have a spirit of fear who tries to come upon me and get me to believe things which are not true but I am able to deny him by the power of the word of God. Lately I have been rebuking anything and everything that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. "Get thee behind me Satan, thou are an offence to me" has become somewhat of a mantra. The fiery darts that come are aimed directly at your weaknesses. Make sure that you are still asking our Father to completely fill you with his Spirit as in his presence is the fullness of joy. Continue asking him to show you what to do and when as when we commit our works to the Lord we are told that our thoughts will be established. Make sure your reading scripture regularly and I suggest praying that which know back unto God in praise. When I talk to God about what he has accomplished here in the world and praise him for the creation itself, I find that I continue to fall deeper and deeper in love with God and form a great reverence for his person. We must exercise ourselves unto godliness if we are to be in good spiritual shape. The fountain from within of living waters must be uncapped and caused to flow and give us drink in times of greatest need. And above any and all things....obey....obey every single command you know God has ever given for us as Christians to be obedient unto, and be thankful in all things. You can call me any time you wish too and I will spend whatever time you need on the phone encouraging you as well. God bless you in all things. I have prayed and will continue to pray for you as the Lord leads me too.

Gary

As always, thank you friend. Gary, I don't want to get in the trap of seeking man more than God. It seems like my symptoms have gotten worse lately.

I am debating about taking my son and going to a "deliverance camp" in Hot Springs during Thanksgiving. I think something is on us. I have a physical spirit of fear on me and physical symptoms. I went to the ER last night for something but tests were OK. I also seem to have quite a bit of confusion. I know that the Lord is the true deliverer and not man. When my wife was sick, we ran all over the country seeking man/pastors for her deliverance, and she was not set free. I just wonder if I am making a mistake in considering going or if anyone has any views on deliverance. Should we go or should we keep going to church and wait on the Lord? Or cast this thing out myself? I know this sounds crazy but would appreciate any advice.

Do you have a Church that you go to?

The Lord did not give you a spirit of fear, He gave you a spirit of son ship, and set you free from being a slave to fear. There is no need to travel from TX to Hot Springs, AK to be set free, for you are free already. You are a child of God and a slave to no fear or sin, you can call out to your Father from where you are. Abba Father, will hear you and He will send comfort to you if you open your heart, Trust and Believe in Him. .... You can step forward with confidence knowing that God gave you a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline. In Love God predestined you to be adopted as his son through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and Will—

Rom 8:15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."

Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,

Rom 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

(Joh 8:33) They answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?"

(Joh 8:34) Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.

(Joh 8:35) Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.

(Joh 8:36) So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

The best part about all of this is that Jesus already paid the price for your sins and for setting us free. There is not one going to charge you 20, 30, or 50 dollars for a book, or to be prayed over. Believe and you will be set free.

ICL~~~Dennis

Thanks, OldShep. That makes sense. It seems like I am getting more confused in my thinking lately.

Biscuit, keep in mind that Satan is an already defeated enemy. Greater is He that is in you (the Holy Spirit) than he that is in the world (Satan). God is, and always will be, on His Throne. Nothing about you escapes His notice. Prayer and time in the Word is the best remedy for fear. God, in fact, tells us not to fear or to worry. It's a waste of time. We fear and worry when we are not trusting in God and His providence.

Give your burden over to the Lord. You are safe in His care. Rest in His salvation. Nothing can snatch you from His hand.

Biscuit, keep in mind that Satan is an already defeated enemy. Greater is He that is in you (the Holy Spirit) than he that is in the world (Satan). God is, and always will be, on His Throne. Nothing about you escapes His notice. Prayer and time in the Word is the best remedy for fear. God, in fact, tells us not to fear or to worry. It's a waste of time. We fear and worry when we are not trusting in God and His providence.

Give your burden over to the Lord. You are safe in His care. Rest in His salvation. Nothing can snatch you from His hand.

Tinky,

It is frustrating to me that I cannot hear God's voice and feel a need to ask others for help.

I suspect that I will regret it if I go, and I will also regret it if I don't go.

Biscuit

Have you considered fasting and praying through these issues? I would also ask God where He is directing you to go and do, not any of us. Some will swear by places like these and others will call them crazy. The question is, what is God saying?

OneLight, I will pray about it, but I am not able to hear God's voice (i.e. prompting). God has communicated with me other ways, but not that way.

I am debating about going to a "deliverance camp". I think something is on us. I have a physical spirit of fear on me and physical symptoms. I went to the ER last night for something but tests were OK. I also seem to have quite a bit of confusion. I know that the Lord is the true deliverer and not man. I just wonder if I am making a mistake in considering going or if anyone has any views on deliverance. Should we go or should we keep going to church and wait on the Lord? Or cast this thing out myself? I would appreciate any advice.

When I sleep at night, I play my audio Bible. I sometimes wake up to certain verses that sort of "quicken" in my spirit. Even when I take nerve medicine to help me sleep, I still wake up to these verses. Here are some of the verses (that are similar) that I have woken up to recently:

Psalm 94:23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the Lord our God shall cut them off.

Proverbs 5:22-23 His own iniquities shall entrap the wicked himself, and he shall be caught with the cords of his sins. He shall die for lack of instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.

This concerns me because the verses are similar in context. I don't know if God considers me wicked, or if the enemy is messing with me. Even if the enemy is messing with me, it couldn't happen unless God allows it to happen, so I don't understand.

I have also been tired/depressed lately and seem to sleep more during the day. Then I heard the verses in Proverbs 6:4-11.

I feel sort of condemned when this happens and it makes me almost not want to play my audio Bible. Has this happened to anyone else?