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See Israeli-Palestinian peace talks kick off with Iftar dinner at State Department

All negotiators know that understanding the culture of a people is paramount to the process of treaty negotiations. A business deal or a cease fire can be undone because of a cultural snafu. The Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations just took a significant turn within the cultural context of those two countries yet few have recognized the prophetic importance of what just happened.

This past Monday evening, the Israelis and Americans both came into covenant with Allah by eating the food dedicated to Allah on Allah’s Ramadan holiday! Most westerners will view this as just a nice gesture toward peace because we don’t understand that the Bible is written in light of ancient near east context which the two countries still uphold in these modern times. Just a few days before, Obama had hosted a fifth Iftar dinner at the White House during Ramadan. Americans have gotten used to this “muslim stuff” in the White House, so what is the big deal and big difference between those other Iftar dinners and this one? Those other dinners celebrated Ramadan, but they were not related to the official business of making a treaty between two parties.

What happened to the Children of Israel when they made covenant with Peor (Num 25:1-2)? YHVH exercised His right to destroy them under the terms of their covenant agreement with Him! A plague killed 24,000 of them came because they ate the sacrifices of Peor (meat dedicated to Peor) and committed fornication with the Midianite women. We may believe that this ancient near east context no longer applies, but we would be wrong. YHVH does not change. His definition of what constitutes a covenant is still the same. Eating a meal with people who are engaged in the celebration of their god with meat dedicated to that god constitutes making a covenant with that god according to every definition given by YHVH in scripture.

Furthermore, the people of the near east still live in a culture that honors the ancient near east context. Nothing has changed there. This understanding is thousands of years old. The peace treaties of the past several decades were always sealed with a dinner but never before have the treaty negotiators eaten a meal with the enemy on that enemy’s holiday with meat that was dedicated to their enemy’s god.

Joshua / Yahoshua 22:18 Now then, are you turning away from following the LORD today? If you rebel against the LORD today, by tomorrow he will be angry with the entire community of Israel.

Yes, on Monday, July 29, 2013, both Israel and America became muslim nations in the eyes of YHVH. Israel is no longer just a Jewish nation. She is Israel in covenant with YHVH’s enemy, Allah. America is no longer just a Christian nation. She is a nation in covenant with YHVH’s enemy, Allah. YHVH views this as idolatry and treason!

Did the participants of this dinner know what they were doing? Yes they did! Why else would they fly the PA flag next to the Israeli flag in the Knesset a day and a half later for the first time every in history!? That flag flew in the Knesset BEFORE the dinner was held! Oh yes, my friends, Tzipi Livni and Saeb Erekat knew exactly what they were doing! John Kerry’s blind and insane desire for fame makes him culpable, too.

Palestinian flag out in honor as PA officials visit Knesset
Two flags are displayed during Knesset Caucus on Ending the Israeli-Arab Conflict; former PA parliament member at meeting tells ‘Post’ that Israel’s flag may fly in Ramallah soon when Knesset Caucus visits.

Spiritually, Jacob just made covenant with Esau and Esau’s god, Allah! The players all knew what they were doing. They understand the ancient and modern near east cultural context of this. And now, in YHVH’s eyes, it appears as if the WHOLE House of Jacob is converted to Islam.

Jos 22:18 Now then, are you turning away from following the LORD today? If you rebel against the LORD today, by tomorrow he will be angry with the entire community of Israel.

Not satisfied with the Iftar covenant meal in Washington DC, the Israelis and Palestinians took a further step to seal and celebrate the newly made covenant with Allah before and in the face of YHVH by engaging in another Iftar meal. Some 40 Palestinians and Israelis shared an Iftar feast in the West Bank on Wednesday in a show of solidarity. Iftar for peace: Palestinians break fast with Israelis in West Bank. Yes, you read that right. Israelis officially approved the covenant made in Washington with a covenant meal IN the Land of Israel! Another step in the new covenant will be the Islamic Beast’s image on Temple Mount directly after the shut down of the Altar.

Scripture tells us that a husband can cancel the oath of a wife. It may be that YHVH could have cancelled the oath of Israel with the Palestinians, but we must remember that this is more than an oath. This is a covenant with another deity. And this covenant is just another reason why the Bitter Waters trial is coming to His people. To misunderstand or not believe the importance of this will be to miss the prophetic significance of it.

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Please Pray with me!  Abba, we stand in the gap and we repent on behalf of the house of Judah and the house of Israel. Abba, we are the people of Jacob, and we have done very wickedly in sitting in a covenant meal with the people of Esau. We have come into alignment with another god, Allah, whose root and origin is BAAL.  This covenant meal was done to kick off “piece talks” to divide YOUR COVENANT LAND, and those at the table were in agreement to DIVIDE your land.

Abba, in your eyes, this is spiritual adultery.  Truly we have provoked you to anger, we have betrayed you and broken your heart in aligning with the god of BAAL and ALLAH.  Abba, we deserve your judgment. Abba, we humble ourselves before you.  We repent of this grievous sin. Abba, in the midst of your judgment, would you please have MERCY on your remnant people? Would you mark those of us whose hearts are torn, who weep before you because of this treachery, this unfaithfulness?

We repent on behalf of our people, Ephraim and Judah, and we ask your forgiveness. Help us to return to YOU,

please wash and cleanse our hearts, Abba, that we might be found to be a FAITHFUL bride and not an ADULTEROUS bride. In Yeshua’s name,            amein and amein

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/30/catholic-priest-beheaded-in-syria-by-al-qaeda-linked-rebels-as-men-and-children-take-pictures-and-cheer/

 

Syrian Catholic priest Francois Murad killed last weekend by jihadi fighters was beheaded, according to a report by Catholic Online which is linking to video purportedly showing the brutal murder.

http://www.newssum.com/40-tons-of-gmo-crops-torched-in-america-media-blackout-147#VsJxBSpE2fcK11kb

Here’s what happened — 40 Tons of GMO Sugar Beets were set ablaze in Eastern Oregon, yesterday. FORTY TONS — the entire acreage of two full fields of crops IN THE GROUND were set ablaze over a THREE NIGHT PERIOD OF TIME. That means ARSON.
Read more at http://www.newssum.com/40-tons-of-gmo-crops-torched-in-america-media-blackout-147#gI4p0KK4YlVYriYs.99

 

Note: Salty language near end of article.

 

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Qatar's ruler formally handed power Tuesday to his 33-year-old son, capping a carefully crafted transition that puts a new generation in charge of the Gulf nation's vast energy wealth and rising political influence after the upheavals of the Arab Spring

33 year old son, what an interesting age, and Iran supports any move that brings "peace and tranquility" to the region.  Interesting similarities here.

http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-ruler-hands-power-son-mark-era-095014447.html

On youtube you will find a great presentation of the Gospel, by Erik Ludy.  This is one of the best I have seen.

To search it: Erik Ludy - The Gospel

http://youtu.be/jDUiuk-12Zg    About 3 1/2 minutes or less

Mods, if this belongs in another forum, please move it there.  Thanks!

http://www.openheaven.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=43511&PN=1

http://www.timesofisrael.com/assad-plans-to-open-resistance-front-in-golan-says-report/

According to a Lebanese report on Friday, embattled Syrian President Bashar Assad plans to open a “resistance” front on the Golan Heights and thinks such a move could unify the various factions in Syria.

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http://enenews.com/official-leaking-tanks-nuclear-site-produce-altogether-new-elements-theyre-reactors-generating-little-world

John 10:³⁰ I and my Father are one.

This one speaks for itself.

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From out of the Shadows

The meaning of this next verse is quite obvious when you come to it with confidence in knowability.

 

Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

 

Revelation 3:3

The meaning is cloaked in a grammatical construct called a double negative. While our eyes were too dim to see beyond the veil, this passage was perplexing, seeming to come somewhat short of declaring that the time He would come like a thief was indeed knowable. Something seemed just beyond our grasp. However, once the veil obscuring the knowability of the time has been removed we can understand this double negative like we understand every other valid double negative construction. These are interpreted as meaning the affirmative, like this: If you wake up, I will not come to you like a thief, and you will know at what time I will come to you. Only if they remain asleep will the Lord come to them like a thief. Only if they remain asleep will they not know at what time He will come to them! Will no one know, my dear friend? Will no one be awake?

 

For those of you who understand typology and know Elijah as a type of the Bride and Elisha as a type of 144k sons of Israel, this prophetic model should speak volumes. When Elijah was taken up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah himself and certain others knew the day.

 

And it came about when the LORD was about to take up Elijah by a whirlwind to heaven, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.
2 Elijah said to Elisha, "Stay here please, for the LORD has sent me as far as Bethel." But Elisha said, "As the LORD lives and as you yourself live, I will not leave you." So they went down to Bethel.
3 Then the sons of the prophets who were at Bethel came out to Elisha and said to him, "Do you know that the LORD will take away your master from over you today?" And he said, "Yes, I know; be still."
4 Elijah said to him, "Elisha, please stay here, for the LORD has sent me to Jericho." But he said, "As the LORD lives, and as you yourself live, I will not leave you." So they came to Jericho.
5 The sons of the prophets who were at Jericho approached Elisha and said to him, "Do you know that the LORD will take away your master from over you today?" And he answered, "Yes, I know; be still."

II Kings 2:1-5

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The Simple Pattern: Noah Knew - and so can You!

Now, let's consider the parenthesis.

For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. What does this mean? Two things are compared. One is an example for the other, a pattern. To understand the one we simply look to the other. How do we compare the two? In what way are they alike? In every way? No, obviously not, because the rainbow remains as a sign of the Lord's promise never to destroy the earth again by water. In what way, then? Let me ask you once again, what's the subject at hand? Take a step back and remember where this parenthesis has been set in the context. The subject has not changed. This passage is still about knowledge of what day the Lord is coming, about knowing before that day comes. If we look to the context to supply the point of comparison we find this single very obvious theme. So then, because the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah, we compare the two on the point of advance knowledge of the time. If the day the Flood came was known in advance, the day the Lord will come will be known in advance! If day of flood - knowable, then, day of coming - knowable. The knowability of the day of the coming of the son of man depends simply on whether the day the Flood came was knowable.

The answer to the big question comes down to this. Did anyone know when the flood would come before it came? Let's go to Genesis 7 to learn from this important model.

Was this rain sent according to the promised schedule?

It came to pass as it had been revealed to Noah - to the very day! As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man! Some knew the very day appointed in the days of Noah, and, by reason of this simple example, it is certain some will know the very day at the coming of the Son of Man! Could the answer to the question of knowability really be that simple? Yes! But, how well hidden this has been and still remains from most! The matter of the hiding and revealing of this particular gem should speak loudly to us about the value of knowing the day of our Lord's coming. Knowing when our Lord comes like a thief and everything that attends that knowledge is so valuable that even the very knowability of that time has been hidden!Do you see it? That's incredibly valuable!

Now, knowing that the time can and will be known is not the same as actually knowing the time, of course, but these are certainly related. If your eyes have been opened during this presentation - Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, Y'shua HaMashiach! Go ahead and shout, or fall on your knees - express your thankfulness freely before Him, who is The concealer and the revealer of all secrets of the Kingdom. He alone holds the key to the storeroom of Heaven's vast treasury of riches, my friend! Bless His holy name!

We'll be returning to this passage to discuss the manner of hiding and to glean some more important insight, but first, if you now see what I see so clearly, let's focus those seeing eyes on some other passages that were formerly concealed beyond the veil!

There is more!

Man, are the verses in Amos and Luke lies?  Did you even bother to read the article?

It is based on scripture man.  You decide what to do with it.

This is an amazing description on knowing that we can know the time we are in regarding Matthew 24.

This is a long read that is worth it!

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, unless He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.

The above verse is a simple and broad declaration. If you accept it literally, the case is made that the Sovereign Lord's servants the prophets will know even the times and dates of his coming. To suggest that any subset of knowledge about what the Lord will do will be kept secret from the prophets is to contradict the scripture. But that's not a very persuasive argument for some of you, so let's continue. Consider the following verse.

Luke 8:17 For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

"The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God is hidden but this knowledge is intended to be disclosed. Are the matters of times and dates excluded in this matter? What is there that will not be brought into the open? Nothing! All that is hidden will be made known. The only variables are when and to whom.  

 

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, unless He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.

 

The above verse is a simple and broad declaration. If you accept it literally, the case is made that the Sovereign Lord's servants the prophets will know even the times and dates of his coming. To suggest that any subset of knowledge about what the Lord will do will be kept secret from the prophets is to contradict the scripture. But that's not a very persuasive argument for some of you, so let's continue. Consider the following verse.

 

Luke 8:17 For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.     

 

You might suppose our Lord was referring to things such as secret sins, but no. The context openly declares what kinds of hidden and concealed things he was talking about.

Luke 8:10

He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, "'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.' "

http://www.theopenscroll.com/beyond_veil/knowday.htm

You can search out the youtube video using the op title.

http://thegoldenreport.net/?p=985

Jerry Golden is a Christian living in Israel. His son Joel serves in the IDF.

http://rense.com/general96/hanford.html

Hanford Site: West

Coast Radiation Crisis, Part 3

http://ivarfjeld.com...f-all-citizens/

India establish Central Monitoring System – a project that gives it access to everything its citizens do over the country’s communications services.

Now this is scarey!

For many India is chaotic, and not possible to monitor. That will change rapidly, when all Indians are electronically tagged. Even in their sleep, people will receive electronic impulses that comes as in the form of government approved visions and dreams.

http://www.victorious.org/strnghld.htm

Maybe this will be helpful

http://www.christianpost.com/news/okla-community-rallies-around-school-district-forced-to-remove-ten-commandments-95896/

In order to avoid a lawsuit from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the school district in Muldrow, Okla., will be removing its Ten Commandment displays from all schools after an atheist teen student addressed legal concerns.

I have not tried the sauce, but I love rhubarb pie.

As for taste, it is a little like strawberries in flavor and the two have actually been used together in pies.

Thank you Fez, the fact that you did not condemn the rest of the verses lends to them.

I do think that patterns repeat in the Bible and perhaps those verses you discredit are among them.

My whole point in posting this was in hopes that it would help some to realize that we may have very little time before Father calls us home. Some of us may need to do housecleaning and this might just prompt them/us to do it.

I do not know the time Jesus will call us home. It may be June 25th and it may not, nevertheless we can not deny that we are called to watch!

We are admonished to discern the times, even as we discern the weather.

Mat_16:2 ^(G1161) He^G3588 answered^G611 and said^G2036 unto them,^G846 When it is^G1096 evening,^G3798 ye say,^G3004 It will be fair weather:^G2105 for^G1063 the^G3588 sky^G3772 is red.^G4449

Mat_16:3 And^G2532 in the morning,^G4404 It will be foul weather^G5494 to day:^G4594 for^G1063 the^G3588 sky^G3772 is red^G4449 and^G2532 lowring.^G4768 O ye hypocrites,^G5273 ye can^G1097 discern^G1252 the^{G3588 (G3303)} face^G4383 of the^G3588 sky;^G3772 but^G1161 can^G1410 ye not^G3756 discern the^G3588 signs^G4592 of the^G3588 times?^G2540

We are also told to be watchmen on the wall. You will notice this is mentioned many times.

Isa_21:6 For^H3588 thus^H3541 hath the Lord^H136 said^H559 unto^H413 me, Go,^H1980 set^H5975 a watchman,^H6822 let him declare^H5046 what^H834 he seeth.^H

^{Eze_3:17 SonH1121} of man,^H120 I have made^H5414 thee a watchman^H6822 unto the house^H1004 of Israel:^H3478 therefore hear^H8085 the word^H1697 at my mouth,^{H4480 H6310} and give them warning^{H2094 (H853)} from^H4480 me.

^{Eze_33:6 But ifH3588} the watchman^H6822 see^{H7200 (H853)} the sword^H2719 come,^H935 and blow^H8628 not^H3808 the trumpet,^H7782 and the people^H5971 be not^H3808 warned;^H2094 if the sword^H2719 come,^H935 and take^H3947 any person^H5315 from among^H4480 them, he^H1931 is taken away^H3947 in his iniquity;^H5771 but his blood^H1818 will I require^H1875 at the watchman's^H6822 hand.^{H4480 H3027}

Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Mat 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 25:13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mar 14:37And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?

For those who are discerning, watching and those who love His appearing He promises a crown. He

also admonished us to hold on to what we have and not lose it so that we do not lose our crown!

2Ti 4:8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Rev 3:11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Those of His day did not even recognize Him. We need to watch and pray that we do recognize Him.

John 1

10-He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

11-He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.

12-But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

13-who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Acts 13

26-“Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent.

27-For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled sin condemning Him.

Rev 2:10Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall castof you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

I sincerely hope some of you will wake up and become aware of the late date in which we live. Israel is our time piece. Watch her.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm

SIDE NOTE: IF June 25^th turns out to be “our wedding day”, look who “just happens” to be visiting Israel on that exact same day (Putin’s very first visit to Israel in SEVEN YEARS!!). Certainly not a pleasant start to those left behind, especially the Jews, ESPECIALLY given the HUGE role Russia will play in end-time prophecy as outlined Ezekiel 38 / 39!!