Happy Forever

Do you worship evolution? How do you evolute yourself?! I don't worship anything. Can't you believe in anything without worshipping it? How I evolved myself? I was an embryo, then a child, then a painful teenager, and then an adult. And? Then you witness the greatness of God.

Do you worship evolution? How do you evolute yourself?!

Is there faith without science?!! Faith is believing in the complete truth, evolution is a myth. So evolution has no place here between faith and science.

All thanks and praises to Allah The Most Merciful, The Greatest for creating this humble great man. Great is an adjective can be used for humans too. I will tell a nice thing from Quran. "Allah" is the name of Allah refers only to Allah with very deep meaning cannot be collected in a mind (miraculous word). "god" means who is worshipped whether an idol, a son, a human or anything can be refers as god. "No god but Allah". "ArRahman" mean The Most Merciful, The All Merciful, The Ever Merciful, these three meanings in one word "ArRahman" and there are more hidden meanings. This word didn't exist before Islam. We learnt it from Quran. When Meccans first heard it, they were astonished. This word refers to Allah only cannot be referred to human. The Creator refers to Allah only not anything else because everything save Him is a creature.

This is injustice. Here is the perfection: "Whoever is guided, surely he is guided only for himself; (i.e., for his own gain) and whoever errs (away), then surely he errs (away) only upon himself; (i.e., to his own loss) and no encumbered self will be encumbered with the encumbrance of another (self); and in no way are We tormenting (anyone) until We have sent forth a Messenger." [17:15] Not injustice. Simply truth. Can an unclean being give birth to a clean one? The sins of the father are passed on through the generations. Have you not noticed that the children of criminals often become criminals. The children of wife abusers often abuse their wives. We pass on the stain within us, if not through our blood, then through our actions as we raise our children. "Truth" is not an easy word. The more you get inito the truth with your given senses, the more your belief becomes stronger. If you will talk about the truth, then logic must play its role. What is the evidence that there was someone called Adam? This is complete injustice and falsehood. We are all clean and pure by nature. Look at a face of a baby and you will know. If a sinless baby died, shall he be punished for the claimed sin of his unwitnessed unseen father?! Is it justice? Allah is The Justice and this is not His religion. Yes, a criminal son may become criminal but not by inheritance but by teaching and choosing his way out of his free will. In the day of Judgment, each soul will be rewarded and punished according to its own deeds not its anscetors' deeds. This is justice of Allah. Yes, The One God wants to clean us so He sent His light and guidance and words but He doesn't love us only because we are His creatures. "Verily Allah doesn't love the corrupters" [28:77] Verily Allah doesn't love the treacherous" [8:58] "Verily Allah doesn't love prideful, boasters" [57:23] "And Allah doesn't love the unjust" [3:57] Yes, this is the teaching of Islam. The teachings of Jesus Christ are very different though. “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ lend to ‘sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. (Gospel of Luke 6:27-36) God hates the sin. But the person is His creation, and He loves us always. If your daughter became a drug addict, would you hate your daughter? ... or would you hate the drugs because you love your daughter? May I ask you? Is this teaching from man, or from God? Of course from a man know nothing about the creation of Allah. There are similar things to this among Muslims called "carrot and stick" "Exhortation and Intimidation". People write (invent) stories and set opinions for the sake of exhorting people to worship god and love him and to be sincere to him but by lies thinking that they do good, and actually they lie on Allah. Others do the opposite, invent horrible stories and set opinions then claim its is true to intimidate people to fear fire by lie. But the right balance is the balance of Allah The Creator Who created us and know us more than ourselves and He is not unjust to His slaves. Allah The Justice set these rules to save the community: Don't kill. Don't steal. Don't commit adultry. He will not order us to let ourselves to be killed without defence or to be stolen and encourge the thief instead of punishing him. Yes we can love our enemy but out of this love, we fight him exactly like cutting your poisoned arm to save your body. We punish a thief to save him from his sin and save community from theft. We are asked to deal in good manner those who treat us badly but never allowed to touch the right of community. "And not equal are the fair deed and the odious deed. Repel with that which is fairest; then, only then, he between whom and you there is enmity will be as if he were an intimate constant patron.(34) And in no way will anyone be granted (such fairness) except the ones who (endure) patiently; and in no way will anyone be granted it except an owner of a tremendous fortune (Literally: Portion) (in the Hereafter).(35) [41:34/35] What is sin? An act or a person? Is there an act without a person? I hate evil? Or I hate evil person? What about Devil? God hate devil or only the sins of the devil? Why are we his sons? Why not other animals are his sons too? why not he is father of jinns too and he hate the deed of his lovely son devil? If this is your truth, why he give us free will to do evil? Do you know that parental love is a weakness and weakness of impossible for Allah? To love someone, you want him to live the best life and provide him with best things and achieve all his wishes. You cannot hurt him or cause him to suffer and will not judge him for any fault he does. Can this be for Allah The God The Creator not the creature? Impossible. Allah created us in this shape for a purpose. He grants us mind to have free will to choose good or bad. He inserted in us natural desires "weakness" to eat and have property and partner and children. He presents to us the allowed and forbidden, the good and evil. The good has its good taste and the evil has its good taste. Why evil too has its good taste? Because it is a test and who fail in the test will be judged. "Say: " the enjoyment of the lower life is short and the Hereafter is the best for those who do right: never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least! (77)" [3:77] So brother, we are not gods or son gods, we are weak creatures seeking our Creator to guide us and forgive us. He created with our desires to be tested. The good and obeyer will be rewarded and the evil and disobeyer will be punished. "And no burdened soul can bear another's burden, and if one heavy laden crieth for (help with) his load, naught of it will be lifted even though he (unto whom he crieth) be of kin. Thou warnest only those who fear their Lord in secret, and have established worship. He who groweth (in goodness), groweth only for himself, (he cannot by his merit redeem others). Unto Allah is the journeying. (18) The blind man is not equal with the seer; (19) Nor is darkness (tantamount to) light; (20) Nor is the shadow equal with the sun's full heat; (21) Nor are the living equal with the dead. Lo! Allah maketh whom He will to hear. Thou canst not reach those who are in the graves. (22)" [35:18/22] Show me your god who showed you. My relation to Allah is without mediator. May Allah protect you and grant you the best life and the best after life you and your family.

Wa Alikom Assalaam Mr Dragoon, I noticed that you are loved by many people here for your politeness and elegance and good manner. May Allah grant you His greatest grace.

Amen May God guide you to His straight path.

Salam brother, You are a great man. Christianity is not the religion of Jesus peace be upon him. Its trinity and its collected book and its churches and customs are to Chritians who make it. The religion of Allah is universal, for all. This is the religion of Allah. This is injustice. Here is the perfection: "Whoever is guided, surely he is guided only for himself; (i.e., for his own gain) and whoever errs (away), then surely he errs (away) only upon himself; (i.e., to his own loss) and no encumbered self will be encumbered with the encumbrance of another (self); and in no way are We tormenting (anyone) until We have sent forth a Messenger." [17:15] Yes, The One God wants to clean us so He sent His light and guidance and words but He doesn't love us only because we are His creatures. "Verily Allah doesn't love the corrupters" [28:77] Verily Allah doesn't love the treacherous" [8:58] "Verily Allah doesn't love prideful, boasters" [57:23] "And Allah doesn't love the unjust" [3:57] Amen By this, we may be clean after His will. I am a normal human, I didn't see Allah and no one saw Him. Allah didn't reveal to me, I am a normal human not a messenger or a prophet. God has proven Himself to me, and has shown me the truth of His Words... so if some person or even an angel from heaven came and tried to give me a message different from that in scripture, I would call him a liar and condemn them as they are not angels, they are satans in a good shape. This is because I love logic and respect my mind and sincere with myself. I know why Allah created me and why he gave me this precious mind. To know Him and thank Him and ask His forgiveness everyday, every night, every moment. He is The Most deserving to be remembered and worshipped. Al Hamdu lillah wa Astaghfiru Allah. Allah, grant us the ability to thank you and ask your forgiveness and good obedience. Brother Dragoon, This is the life of illusion and the winner who find the truth and follow it. There are countless religions around the world and countless books they all claim to be god religion and god words but..... But the reiligion of The One Ture God is the only right religion clear, with evidence from our Creator to distinguish His religion from the falsehood. Of course you believe that the religion of The God is the strongest one, the most clear one, with a great evidence to support it (God will not create us with mind to leave us in illusion. Let's agree to show the evidence of our religions and the one which is proved to be the most evident and irrefutable will be for sure the religion of The One God. God protect you and your family

Inserting people between you and your god and his words is different from knowing your God by your mind and knowing His great words by your mind, seeing His miracles by your eyes, hearing His miracles by your ears, feeling them by your heart. Who said it cannot be known except by interpretation? Learn, this is the age of knowledge. I am a monotheist Muslim. If we are primitive not teached any religion, will we know The One God? We will ask ourselves "Who created this tree to produce delicious fruits for us? Who make the earth paved for us? Who send sweat water from sky for us? Who grants me eyes to see? Who grants me ears to hear? Who grants me mind to know all that? It is nature which is His creation and through His creation we know him. I know You my lord without seeing You. I know You my Lord without hearing you. It is enough for me to see and hear and touch and feel Your great creation and Your miraculous words. I ask Your forgiveness to clean me from my sins as the white cloth is cleaned from dirts. Wa Alhamdu Lillahi Rabbil Allameen

Amen *EDIT* -------- How can you set your openion of something that you know nothing about? This is complete injustice. The written words in the Bible are God's words, but God breathed those Words through men, and it was men who touched ink to paper to write those words. There are no people between God and mankind. You said you 'knew' Christianity', but there are obvious faults in your understanding. No need for insult. Yes, you're right, I don't know Christianity, I know the true message of Messenger Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him which is "No God but Allah". And you have to believe them! If someone seeing him face to face telling you that what he is saying now is revelation from god, will you believe him or say "Show me evidence, a miracle to believe you or else you are a liar"? If some ink in some papers in front of you and someone tells you that this ink in that paper was written by people whom god breathed his words through them, will you believe him or say "Oh, this is worse, to believe the first liar is more logical". Insulting question to god. A creature comes before its creator? The creator is limited in place so you can come before or after him? This is impossible for The One True God The Creator of the heavens and the earth. If you think that you are unclean and your creator wants to clean you, why didn't he create you clean from the beginning?! We have only one, One book, one version, no copies, only one. You know that what is in your hand is words from different people as the papers claim and then translate these words of humans then lie with Allah by without shame and say it is god words!! Do you know now how people can dare to change the words of Allah and made others and say they are his? If you open any of your book, will find in the cover "words of god". If you open any book of translation of Quran, will find in the cover "translation of the interpretation (meaning) of The Quran. And if you find "translation of Quran", burn it, it is a lie as no one can translate Quran. If it is not Arabic but translation and written "The Holy Quran", burn it as it is a great lie against Allah and not made by Muslims for sure. You've written a lot of silly stuff here, and it may be because you don't understand the meaning of some words in English. If I go to a printer to print the Quran, he prints as many COPIES as I ask for. There was one ORIGINAL COPY, but there are many COPIES of that original. When I tell you that; This does not mean there are many different books. It means that the same book was reproduced many times. If Muslims really "have only one, One book, one version, no copies, only one"... that would mean that all 1.5 billion Muslims would have to share 1 book. I hope you can see why that statement is silly and makes me laugh My Bible, and every Bible I've ever owned begins with "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. " (Book of Genesis 1:1) Once again, I can only suggest that your sources are incorrect. No reason to laugh. Please no more insult, and don't break respect and you don't know Quran. (don't be unjust and judge through the eyes of others) Yes, we have only one book, one version, no copies. This is an example to explain: בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth If Hebrew is the original language of this context, for you, these two the original language and the translation are holy books words of god. We Muslims, can do the same with any human article or book by writing the author name in the translation, but for The Munificent Quran is completely far from doing that. Here in this miraculous Surah: بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (١) ٱلۡحَمۡدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٢) ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (٣) مَـٰلِكِ يَوۡمِ ٱلدِّينِ (٤) إِيَّاكَ نَعۡبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسۡتَعِينُ (٥) ٱهۡدِنَا ٱلصِّرَٲطَ ٱلۡمُسۡتَقِيمَ (٦) صِرَٲطَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَنۡعَمۡتَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ غَيۡرِ ٱلۡمَغۡضُوبِ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا ٱلضَّآلِّينَ (٧) is not the translation: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1) Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, (2) The Beneficent, the Merciful. (3) Owner of the Day of Judgment, (4) Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help. (5) Show us the straight path, (6) The path of those whom Thou hast favoured. Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray. (7) [1:1/7] The first one in Arabic is Quran the words of Allah, the second one is not Quran at all, but human words. It is not the problem of my English but the problem that you don't know Quran and don't know Arabic. Allah says: "He has been sending down upon you the Book with the Truth, sincerely (verifying) what was before it (Literally: between its two hands), and He sent down the Tawrah and the Injil (3)." [3:3] In this Ayah, Allah says that He sent down the book (referring to The Quran). But Allah didn't give Jibril a book to handle it to Muhammad the unlattered. The Quran was being sent to Muhammad orally with some Ayats from time to tiime through out 23 years. "Stir not thy tongue herewith to hasten it. (16) Lo! upon Us (resteth) the putting together thereof and the reading thereof. (17) And when We read it, follow thou the reading; (18)" [75:16/18] So what is the meaning of the book? The Book means the Quran, the spiritual words not the physical. So we have one Quran the Arabic recited by all Muslims in the same way. All those who keep Quran by heart whether Arabs or nonArabs have the same Quran in their hearts whether from the east or the west, African, American, European or Asian, black or white, Arab or non Arab have the same Quran with its language which Allah chose to be the language of His book. *Happy, please refrain from praying to Allah on the boards*

Allow me to start with the best start "Bism Allah Arrahman Arraheem" I do pray for you and would like to hear your prayer. I do consider every word and feel you do the same. And that's why you have wide knowledge. Hello my brother Dragoon, I hope you are sincere as you say and seek the truth wherever it is, this is what I do and the way I chose. ` What Azhar? Here is The Quran in front of you. Quran is my guidance, Quran is my source of knowledge, Quran is my life. Reflect what these Ayats say: 1)"Then, when the anger of Moses abated, he took up the tablets, and in their inscription there was guidance and mercy for all those who fear their Lord. (154)" [7:154] 2)"46. And We made to supervene on their tracks Isa son of Maryam, (Jesus son of Mary) sincerely verifying whatever of the Tawrah between his two hands (was before him), and We brought him the Injil, wherein there is a guidance and a light, and sincerely verifying whatever of the Tawrah was before him, and a guidance and an admonition to the pious." [5:46] "Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)" [122:1/4] Reflect what these three parts mean. 1)The tablets in which Turah was written and which Moses copied are sent to Him from Allah so The Speaker is Allah Himself addressing us. 2)Allah sent down the Injeel to Jesus so Injeel is the words of Allah in which He address us and send us His message. 3) In this miraculous Ayah, Allah is The Speaker ordering Muhammad to say to us...... Check your bible, is it from Allah? Is it the words of Allah or human words? So there are people between you and your god in order to know him and pray for him and know his religion?! There must be Jesus in the relation between you and your Creator, there must be people take the information they personally get then deliver it to you after digesting it. And from people to people and generation to generation dependiing on trusting people and hardly imagine that any one dare to change the words of Allah. What is your evidence in front of you if you search for the complete truth? We have only one, One book, one version, no copies, only one. You know that what is in your hand is words from different people as the papers claim and then translate these words of humans then lie with Allah by without shame and say it is god words!! Do you know now how people can dare to change the words of Allah and made others and say they are his? If you open any of your book, will find in the cover "words of god". If you open any book of translation of Quran, will find in the cover "translation of the interpretation (meaning) of The Quran. And if you find "translation of Quran", burn it, it is a lie as no one can translate Quran. If it is not Arabic but translation and written "The Holy Quran", burn it as it is a great lie against Allah and not made by Muslims for sure. Brother, I am an Arab, please don't tell me I know Arabic more than you. Yahoodi means who were guided not who is from Judah. If it is in Hebrew, they kept the same pronunciation and changed the original meaning to Judah to make their religion confined to a specific people and place (this is politics, brother, when you change your skin for the sake of political interests, simply proved by Israel the only country stole its land in the name of religion and choose its people in the name of religion). You tell me which meaning is better. For Nassara it is not the Arabic for Christians and not used any longer among Arabs, brother. It is from history, from Quran. Now Christians in Arabic are Messeihieen and here in Egypt they feel shame of Messeihieen and try to spread another name "copts". Ask any Arab even non Muslim you know and he will assure you that. Do you like logic? logically, this can never be an evidence. For example, I ask what is the meaning of "going" and you say "to go". You provide nothing as I still don't know its meaning. I tell you your book is false and you quote from it to prove it!! Thanks, you get to the core. This is the base and the evidence of your religion, pieces of papers! Without them, there is no evidence at all and all what you have are human words with no evidence that they are god's. Oh, even these papers has no evidence of being god's. Even they can't claim that they are god's. How a fragile base! There is no if in religion. It is from The One God The Creator, it is not culture or normal thing. The religion of The One God must be clear, with undoubted evidence. Yes, and even worship you but before, show me evidence, a great miracle of your religion that it is from The Great Creator then I can believe in you. P.S: I like your sincerity, respect and knowledge. May Allah guide you to His straight path.

There is no word without being from one. No word is a god cuz word needs someone to make it. If your god is a word and with a beginning, Allah is Owner of all things in the heavens and the earth, He made everything with one word of two letters "Kon كن, Be". Allah is The First with no beginning. Allah is not parts, He is Self Existent. All things made by Him and without Him nothing was and is made. Life is not light, darkness comes from the life of some. 255. Allah. There is no god except He, The Ever-Living, The Superb Upright Sustainer. Slumber does not overtake Him, nor sleep; to Him (belongs) whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. Who is there that intercedes for His Providence except by His Permission? He knows whatever is in front of them (Literally: between their hands) and whatever is behind them, and they do not encompass anything of His Knowledge except whatever He has decided. His Chair embraces the heavens and the earth; the preserving of them (Literally: them both) does not tire Him; and He is The Ever-Exalted, The Ever-Magnificent. [2:255] Surat The Cow

There is no word without being from one. No word is a god cuz word needs someone to make it. If your god is a word and with a beginning, Allah is Owner of all things in the heavens and the earth, He made everything with one word of two letters "Kon كن, Be". Allah is The First with no beginning. Allah is not parts, He is Self Existent. All things made by Him and without Him nothing was and is made. Life is not light, darkness comes from the life of some. 255. Allah. There is no god except He, The Ever-Living, The Superb Upright Sustainer. Slumber does not overtake Him, nor sleep; to Him (belongs) whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. Who is there that intercedes for His Providence except by His Permission? He knows whatever is in front of them (Literally: between their hands) and whatever is behind them, and they do not encompass anything of His Knowledge except whatever He has decided. His Chair embraces the heavens and the earth; the preserving of them (Literally: them both) does not tire Him; and He is The Ever-Exalted, The Ever-Magnificent. [2:255] Surat The Cow

Umm surely equating Jesus to any of the above is a violation of the ToS? Enough of this. Sorry, I don't mean insulting of course, Jesus is my Prophet and a brother to my Prophet.

Sorry, I removed the propaganda, here are your naked words. Your god is a word?!!! Someone says that his god is a cow, another says his god is the sun, another says his god is budha, another says his god is a calf,...an idol, ....a picture, ...a word..... Whom shall I follow? My mind, my pure nature which is His creation. My mind and my nature say that my God is Allah (The One True God, The Creator). Islam is the only religion of logic, may you prove that your religion is not a philosophy? "Is there doubt about Allah The Creator of the heavens and the earth"

But you need to meet Jesus and ask him "Do you love me?". And he will say "do I know you?".

Wa Alikom Assalam, respectful brother. It is my pleasure and honor to debate you. May Allah protect you and grant you His paradise. Amen I call you brother because we all brothers and sisters in humanity with one father (Adam) and one mother (Eve 'Hawwa"). I didn't assume that Christians and Jews are mentioned in Quran, I assure that these words never mentioned in Quran. What you say about 'pseudepigrapha' is not related at all. I am taking about the Turah and Injeel the two books of Allah sent to Moses and Jesus. Do you know that the Quran is the light and mercy which lightens the whole world? Quran is a source of knowledge, history, science and language. Do you know that we Arabs learn Arabic from Quran and set grammar rules according to Quran. By Quran, history is clear. Read these Ayats the translation of Quran: 44. Surely We sent down the Tawrah, wherein there is a guidance and a light, thereby the Prophets who had become Muslims (who surrendered to Allah) gave judgment to the ones who were guided (Yahood), and (so) did the rabbis and the priests, according to whatever they were asked to preserve of the Book of Allah, and were witnesses to. So do not be apprehensive of mankind, and be apprehensive of Me, and do not trade My Ayats for a little price. And whoever does not judge according to what Allah has sent down, then those are they (who are) the disbelievers. 45. And therein We prescribed for them, “The self for the self, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. So, whoever donates it, (i.e., remits the penalty or the retaliation as alms “a free-will offering”) then it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge according to what Allah has sent down, then those are they (who are) the unjust.” 46. And We made to supervene on their tracks Isa son of Maryam, (Jesus son of Mary) sincerely verifying whatever of the Tawrah between his two hands (was before him), and We brought him the Injil, wherein there is a guidance and a light, and sincerely verifying whatever of the Tawrah was before him, and a guidance and an admonition to the pious. 47. And let the people of the Injil judge according to what Allah has sent down therein. And whoever does not judge according to what Allah has sent down, then those are they (who are) the immoral. 48. And We have sent down to you the Book with the Truth, sincerely verifying whatever of the Book that was before it, (Literally: between its two hands) and Supremely Hegemonic over it. So judge between them according to what Allah has sent down, and do not ever follow their prejudices away from the Truth that has come to you. To every one of you We have made a legislation and a program. And if Allah had so decided, He would indeed have made you one nation; but (He did not) that He may try you in what He has brought you. So race with each other in the charitable (deeds); to Allah will be your return, altogether; so He will fully inform you of that wherein you used to differ. 49. And (that) you should judge between them according to what Allah has sent down. And do not ever follow their prejudices, and beware of them (lest) they tempt you away from some (part) of what Allah has sent down to you. So, in case they turn away, then know that Allah wills only to afflict them for some of their guilty deeds; and surely many of mankind are indeed immoral. [5:44:49] This is the perfect answer for your questions. Here Allah says that He sent the Tawrah as light and guidance the source of rules executed by the prophets and Yahood (followers of Moses) and rabbis and priests who surrendered to Allah (Muslims). He ordered them as He orders us to keep His words and to judge accordingly and not to buy his words for cheap price. In the second ayah(45), Allah inform us part of the law He set in Tawrah which is "eye with eye...." and it is our law too. In Ayah (46), Allah tells us about Isa (Jesus) Who verified the Turah and Allah sent to Him the Injeel as a light and guidance. In Ayah (47), Allah says that He ordered the followers of Jesus (people of Injeel) to follow their book. In Ayah (48), Allah is talking to Muhammad and to us saying that we should judge according to (follow) Quran and not to follow the prejudice of the current Yahood and Nassara. Allah says "To everyone (Muslims, Yahood 'Jews', Nassarah 'Christians'), a legislation and an approach. Allah would indeed make us one nation with one religion but He didn't as He made this life for test. In the last Ayah (49), Allah is talking to messenger Muhammad telling him to judge between people of the book according to Quran and not to follow their prejudice and take care of their fancies. I think this translation showed you the great words of Quran and it answers all your questions. One important thing I have to underline is: When Allah talked about the followers of Jesus at his time, He called them "people of Injeel" not Nassara not Christians. The followers of Moses after his era were called Yahood not during his era and this is a an important historical assertion. Moses himself was not a Yahoodi but a Muslim as the first Ayah said. The followers of Jesus were called "the disciples" at his era, after him they were called Nassara as Jesus himself was not Nasrani but a Muslim as the first Ayah said. Now you are called Jews and Christians, why? What are the meanings of Muslim, Yahood, Nassara, Jews and Christians? This what Quran records from history and this is a witness against you. Muslim: means who submits to The One God. Yahood: plural of Yahoodi means who was guided. Nassara: plural of Nasrani means helper,supporter, vendicator. Why Yahood became the name of the followers of Moses peace be upon him? Because after they repent from their grieve sin which is worshipping the calf, Allah accept their repentance and guided them to His path (Yahodi means guided). Why Nassara became the name of the followers of Jesus peace be upon him? Because Jesus told them once "So, as soon as Isa (Jesus) perceived disbelief among them, he said, “Who are my ready vindicators to Allah?” (i.e., in the cause of Allah) The Disciples said, ” We are the ready vindicators to Allah; we have believed in Allah, and bear (you) witness that we are Muslims." [3:52] (Nasrani means vendicator) And these were your names till the era of Prophet Muuhammad peace be upon him and these were their books till the era of prophet muhammad, what happened then? The holders of the books (popes and priests) hid them cuz they wouldn't apply their rules following their kings to gain cheap price. Then kings after kings, these copies were forbidden and burnt and who have a copy was killed. Then people started to search for the books to find nothing but writings of humans collected from anywhere and searched for a new name which is "bible" (means book). Yahood and Nassara at that time (after the era of prophet Muhammad) changed their respectful names to meaningless ones which are Jews and Christians. What is the meaning of Jew? Who belongs to Judah a country. What is the meaning of Christian? Who belongs to the anointed one. Sorry for the long post. Your sister, Happy Forever Note: these are translation of the Quran not the Quran itself (Quran is not bible, you don't know the original copy and the original language and consider the translation and people quotes as god words). The Holy words of Allah are the words in Quran.

This is your bible, brother. ******** This is The Perfect words of Quran: The translation: 112. Surat Al-Ikhlas (Faithfulness) In The Name of Allah, The All-Merciful, The Ever-Merciful. 1. Say, “He is Allah, The Only One, 2. Allah, The Everlasting Sovereign 3. He has not begotten and has not been begotten, 4. And to Him none could be co-equal.” Let's challenge, brother, and provide evidence to show which one is The Perfect words of The God. First: Allah means The One True God, what is the meaning of Jesus? Second: Quran means the best the can be read. What is the meaning of bible? Third: Islam means submission to The One True God, what is the meaning of Christianity? Fourth: This Surah in front of you is a great miracle from Allah, can you show me I will not say a miracle but a trivial evidence? Wait for more and more insha Allah. "Is there doubt about Allah The Creator of the heavens and the eath"

Your god with feet?! Why? He can't walk without feet? So he needs his feet. Why he needs to walk? To be able to see what he can't see? Ah, of course as he his eyes can see what is in front of them only like us. Your god is composed of parts and he needs his parts. If he lost one part, he becomes weak. Can we kill him?!! Oh, this is what you already think. A dead god after being tortured by his creatures!!! Allah is The All sufficient, The Omnipotent, The All Seeing, The Allah Hearing, The Ever Forgiving, The Most Merciful. "Is there doubt about Allah the Creator of the heavens and the earth"

How beautiful are your words except the last sentence. I find happiness in rain itself as it is the source of life. I find happiness in pure innocent faces. I find happiness at hard times as I become nearer to my God. I find happiness in disasters as I know it is a test from The God. I find happiness in cruelty as I know the reward of patience is unimaginable. I find this life is plant looks fresh and green to become ashes. True happiness when I become ashes and pass the test of life peacefully.

You make me happy with your nice words. It is life of contradiction, I seek another happiness. Where do you find the true happiness? Thanks sister

What YOU don't know is the Qu'ran... Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Or did this passage slip your mind? Sister, This is just translation not the Quran. You quote the intepretations of human words. Here is the translitiration of this Ayah: "Waqalati alyahoodu AAuzayrun ibnu Allahi waqalati alnnasara almaseehu ibnu Allahi" Wa: and Qalat: said (in Arabic, the verb preceeds the subject) Al: the Yahood: what you claim that they are the Jews Auzayr: Uzair Ibn: son Allah Wa Qalat: and said Al Nassara: what you claim that they are Christians. Al Masseih: the Christ Ibn: son Allah The translation of Christians is Messeiheen. There is no translation for Jews as it is not used in Arabic. May you tell me what is the meaning of Christians and Jews to tell you the meaning of Yahood and Nassarah?

Hello brother Joe, My God is my Creator, is Jesus your creator?

Wa Alikom Assalam brother, 1) Yes, they were. "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allâh," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby. (79)" [2:79] Allah protects His books if He wills. He left the burden upon man but for Quran: "Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the remainder (the Qur'ân) and surely, We are to it, verily Gurdian (9)" [15:9] We refers to Allah. 2) Turah and Injeel were partially corrupted at the time of Prophet Muhammad, the Jews hided parts and changed others. These books, brothers, were not available for like now in Quran. Pope and priests kept it for themselves cuz they couldn't apply it or in other words, these great books were against their interests. That is why Allah ordered His messengers to tell people of the book to apply their books. Now, these books are not existed even the corrupted version. What you have between your hands are human quotes from the mouth and fingers of man. Turah and Injeel are the words of Allah from Him to Moses and Jesus not from Moses and Jesus then recorded by other many people. Then recently you try to search for your book to found part thrown here and other there written by anyone claiming anything. They are not existed, brother. The words of Allah stands by itself not by died deceived people or old papers. 3) 155. So, for their breaking of their compact, and their disbelieving in the signs of Allah, and their killing of the Prophesiers (i.e. prophets) untruthfully and their saying, “Our hearts are encased.” No indeed, (but) Allah has stamped upon them for their disbelief; so they do not believe except a few. 156. And for their disbelief and their speaking against Maryam (Mary) a tremendous all-malicious (calumny). 157. And for their saying, “Surely we killed the Masih, Isa son of Maryam, (The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary) the Messenger of Allah.” And in no way did they kill him, and in no way did they crucify him, but a resemblance of him was presented to them (i.e. the matter was made obscure for them through mutual resemblance). And surely the ones who differed about him are indeed in doubt about him. In no way do they have any knowledge about him except the close following of surmise, and in no way did they kill him of a certainty. 158. No indeed, Allah raised him up to Him; and Allah has been Ever-Mighty, Ever-Wise. [4:155/158] Thanks for your politeness and respect and your logic. I know bible and and its flaws and politics too but I don't throw false accusations out of ignorance. I and no body gain from this. That is why I ask for a respectful debate to find the truth. --- I understand politics and have countless examples against yours but this is not the topic here. BTW: Lebanon doesn't apply Sharia.

Because you look at the mirror. Here is the reply again: Are you from Yahood? Are you from Nassarah? Is your book called Injeel? Is your book called Torah??? What you don't know is that Christians and Jews never ever mentioned in The Munificent Quran. Show me your ignorance and quote countless of countless quotes of the all translations you have and I have, Quran never metioned Christians or Jews or old testament or new one. Throw all the translation of the translation of the interpretation of Quran you find in the Nile, feel rest, they are not Quran.