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Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below? 1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom? 2.) Physical Earthly Throne? 3.) Physical Mortal Humans? The Above Claims (Don't Exist) Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ 100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time 2 Peter 3:8KJV 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Revelation 20:1-6KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Once Again There's a "Warning" from the Lord no "Sin" has taken place, no "Heathen" is present because all will keep the feast of tabernacles in the (Eternal Kingdom) seen The Lord gives a "Warning" with a big "IF" no "Sin" is taking place Zechariah Chapter 14 describes (The Day Of The Lord) and (The Eternal Kingdom) that follows afterward A Millennial Kingdom for 1,000 years upon this earth doesn't exist in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale created by man Zechariah 14:18KJV 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
The Lord gives a "Warning" with a big "IF" no "Sin" is taking place as you claim Zechariah Chapter 14 describes (The Day Of The Lord) and (The Eternal Kingdom) that follows afterward A Millennial Kingdom for 1,000 years upon this earth doesn't exist in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale created by man Zechariah 14:18KJV 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
You fail to recognize that (The Day Of The Lord) takes place in Zechariah Chapter 14, it's clearly identified in verse 1, and the actual fire judgement is seen in verse 12, you can repeat your claim all you want, no millennial kingdom exist's after Zechariah 14:12, this present earth is "Dissolved" by the Lords fire (Gone) Zechariah 14:1 (The Day Of The Lord) Is Coming, The Last Day Of This Physical Earths Existence, No Millennial Kingdom Following Zechariah 14:1KJV 1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. Zechariah 14:12 The Actual Day Of The Lord Seen Taking Place, As Men Are Vaporized By The Lord's Fire In Judgement Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. The Very Same Day Of The Lord In Peter's Account, This Present Earth Is "Dissolved" By The Lord's Fire, Down To Its Very "Elements" (Gone) 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Luke's account of The Day Of The Lord, (Destroyed Them All) Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. -
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.
truth7t7 replied to truth7t7's topic in Eschatology
When Was The Book Of Revelation Written? Author: Wayne Jackson, Christian Courier Traditionally, the book of Revelation has been dated near the end of the first century, around A.D. 96. Some writers, however, have advanced the preterist (from a Latin word meaning “that which is past”) view, contending that the Apocalypse was penned around A.D. 68 or 69, and thus the thrust of the book is supposed to relate to the impending destruction of Jerusalem (A.D. 70). A few prominent names have been associated with this position (e.g., Stuart, Schaff, Lightfoot, Foy E. Wallace Jr.), and for a brief time it was popular with certain scholars. James Orr has observed, however, that recent criticism has reverted to the traditional date of near A.D. 96 (1939, 2584). In fact, the evidence for the later date is extremely strong. In view of some of the bizarre theories that have surfaced in recent times (e.g., the notion that all end-time prophecies were fulfilled with the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70), which are dependent upon the preterist interpretation, we offer the following. External Evidence The external evidence for the late dating of Revelation is of the highest quality. Irenaeus Irenaeus (A.D. 180), a student of Polycarp (who was a disciple of the apostle John), wrote that the apocalyptic vision “was seen not very long ago, almost in our own generation, at the close of the reign of Domitian” (Against Heresies 30). The testimony of Irenaeus, not far removed from the apostolic age, is first rate. He places the book near the end of Domitian’s reign, and that ruler died in A.D. 96. Irenaeus seems to be unaware of any other view for the date of the book of Revelation. Clement of Alexandria Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 155-215) says that John returned from the isle of Patmos “after the tyrant was dead” (Who Is the Rich Man? 42), and Eusebius, known as the “Father of Church History,” identifies the “tyrant” as Domitian (Ecclesiastical History III.23). Even Moses Stuart, America’s most prominent preterist, admitted that the “tyrant here meant is probably Domitian.” Within this narrative, Clement further speaks of John as an “old man.” If Revelation was written prior to A.D. 70, it would scarcely seem appropriate to refer to John as an old man, since he would only have been in his early sixties at this time. Victorinus Victorinus (late third century), author of the earliest commentary on the book of Revelation, wrote: Jerome AD 340-420 To all of this may be added the comment of Eusebius, who contends that the historical tradition of his time (A.D. 324) placed the writing of the Apocalypse at the close of Domitian’s reign (III.18). McClintock and Strong, in contending for the later date, declare that “there is no mention in any writer of the first three centuries of any other time or place” (1969, 1064). Upon the basis of external evidence, therefore, there is little contest between the earlier and later dates. Internal Evidence The contents of the book of Revelation also suggest a late date, as the following observations indicate. The spiritual conditions of the churches described in Revelation chapters two and three more readily harmonize with the late date. The church in Ephesus, for instance, was not founded by Paul until the latter part of Claudius’s reign: and when he wrote to them from Rome, A.D. 61, instead of reproving them for any want of love, he commends their love and faith (Eph. 1:15) (Horne 1841, 382). Yet, when Revelation was written, in spite of the fact that the Ephesians had been patient (2:2), they had also left their first love (v. 4), and this would seem to require a greater length of time than seven or eight years, as suggested by the early date. Another internal evidence of a late date is that this book was penned while John was banished to Patmos (1:9). It is well known that Domitian had a fondness for this type of persecution. If, however, this persecution is dated in the time of Nero, how does one account for the fact that Peter and Paul are murdered, yet John is only exiled to an island? (Eusebius III.18; II.25). Then consider this fact. The church at Laodicea is represented as existing under conditions of great wealth. She was rich and had need of nothing (3:17). In A.D. 60, though, Laodicea had been almost entirely destroyed by an earthquake. Surely it would have required more than eight or nine years for that city to have risen again to the state of affluence described in Revelation. The doctrinal departures described in Revelation would appear to better fit the later dating. For example, the Nicolaitans (2:6, 15) were a full-fledged sect at the time of John’s writing, whereas they had only been hinted at in general terms in 2 Peter and Jude, which were written possibly around A.D. 65-66. Persecution for professing the Christian faith is evidenced in those early letters to the seven churches of Asia Minor. For instance, Antipas had been killed in Pergamum (2:13). It is generally agreed among scholars, however, that Nero’s persecution was mostly confined to Rome; further, it was not for religious reasons (Harrison 1964, 446). -
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.
truth7t7 replied to truth7t7's topic in Eschatology
No need for multiple fulfillments, the opinion is self explanatory Jerusalem is guilty of the prophets blood, Rome didn't exist during the lives of the prophets Jerusalem is the "Great City" upon "Seven Mounts" as clearly shown, the simple conclusion is just accept God's words that are simple and clear -
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.
truth7t7 replied to truth7t7's topic in Eschatology
Yes Jerusalem in Israel is "The Great City" that sits on "Seven Mounts", Jerusalem is guilty of the prophets blood, the post is self explanatory -
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.
truth7t7 replied to truth7t7's topic in Eschatology
Big Smiles "No" Matthew 24 in the Olivet discourse is "Future Unfulfilled" Matthew 24:15 Daniel's AOD "Future Unfulfilled" Matthew 24:21 The Great Tribulation "Future Unfulfilled" Matthew 24:29-31 The Lord's second coming "Future Unfulfilled" Jesus Is The Lord -
Matthew 26:31-46 Sheep/Goat judgement is nothing more than a "Parable" being spoken to "Herdsmen" of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15 Many claim the judgement seen takes place at the return of Jesus to enter a mortal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, this is "False" as is clearly seen below Below in Matthew 25:46 you see the end result of this judgement, "Eternal Life" and "Everlasting Punishment" (The End) Matthew 25:46KJV 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.
truth7t7 replied to truth7t7's topic in Eschatology
What does the eary date of the Revelation have to do with the fact Jerusalem is the Whore Mystery Babylon? It's my opinion the Revelation was written in roughly 96AD under the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian 81-96AD when Apostle John was imprisoned at Patmos Please explain your claim of the Revelation early date and Jerusalem being Mystery Babylon, "what must be proven", waiting? -
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great. The Levitical High Priest Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below (Revelation) 17:4KJV 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: Yes "The Woman", The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones (Exodus) 28:15-20KJV 15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it. 16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof. 17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row. 18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond. 19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst. 20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings. (Jerusalem) is the seven Mount city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim. (Revelation) 17:9KJV 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia. Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built. The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did. (Revelation) 18:24KJV 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. (Matthew) 23:29-37KJV 29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Jerusalem (The Woman) that (Great City) as seen below, Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified (Revelation) 17:18AKJV 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Revelation) 11:8AKJV 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Jews/Hebrews cast dust upon their heads, weeping for the (Great City) Jerusalem (Revelation) 18:19 AKJV 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
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Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Zechariah 14:1 (The Day Of The Lord) Is Coming, The Last Day Of This Physical Earths Existence, No Millennial Kingdom Following Zechariah 14:1KJV 1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. Zechariah 14:12 The Actual Day Of The Lord Seen Taking Place, As Men Are Vaporized By The Lord's Fire In Judgement Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. The Very Same Day Of The Lord In Peter's Account, This Present Earth Is "Dissolved" By The Lord's Fire, Down To Its Very "Elements" (Gone) 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Luke's account of The Day Of The Lord, (Destroyed Them All) Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
I Disagree With Your Claims This Earth Will Be Dissolved By The Lord's Fire At His Return,It Will Be A Completely New Creation In The New Heaven And Earth 2 Peter 3:10-13 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Zechariah 14:16, Who Will Be Left Of The Nations? You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning) Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living) Zechariah 14:16KJV 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Isaiah 4:3-4KJV 3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: 4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. Revelation 21:24-27KJV 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
truth7t7 replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heaven And Earth Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement. (Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below (Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon. (Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins. (Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5 (Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5 (Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up. (Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13 2 Peter 3:10KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Revelation 22:1KJV And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. "The Eternal Kingdom"! Zechariah 14:1-12KJV 14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. 8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. 9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one. 10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses. 11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited. 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.