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What you "Believe" are facts, in "Opinion" If Daniel meant 490 years, he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) he didn't, he wrote (Seventy Weeks) it's that simple In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Sir Robert Anderson was a servant and right hand man of John N. Darby and the Plymouth brethren, Anderson was nothing more than a tool used to spread Darby's false teachings, namely a pre-trib rapture to mention one

Thanks for the response Marv, I Agree! Do you have anything further to add?

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) "he didn't", Daniel wrote (Seventy Weeks) meaning 490 literal "Future" days Daniels 70 literal weeks or 490 literal days will begin at a "Future" command to build a wall/street in Jerusalem 7 weeks = Command to build and planning 62 weeks = Building wall/street 1 week = armies surround Jerusalem, building is stopped "Messiah Cut Off" antichrist is revealed, Daniel's AOD takes place After the completion of the "Future" 70th week or 7 literal days, the 3.5 year tribulation starts, as the antichrist is given power 42 months ruling from Jerusalem Immediately after this tribulation the second coming takes place (The End) I don't subscribe to a week's of years theory, Daniels 70 weeks represent 490 "Future" literal days, simple, clear, easy to understand Jesus Is The Lord

I have openly shown several times, and once again and again Daniels 70 literal weeks or 490 literal days will begin at a "Future" command to build a wall/street in Jerusalem 7 weeks = Command and planning to build 62 weeks = building 1 week = armies surround Jerusalem, building is stopped "Messiah Cut Off" antichrist is revealed, Daniel's AOD takes place After the completion of the "Future" 70th week or 7 literal days, the 3.5 year tribulation starts, as the antichrist is given power 42 months ruling from Jerusalem Immediately after this tribulation the second coming takes place (The End) 70 Literal Weeks That Are "Future" "Future" "Future" I don't subscribe to a week's of years theory, Daniels 70 weeks represent 490 "Future" literal days, simple, clear, easy to understand Jesus Is The Lord

"We Disagree", Daniel 9:26 has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ "Dying" "Cut Off" pertains to the building of a wall/street as armies surround a future Jerusalem, completing the future 62nd week of Daniel 9:26

Future events unfulfilled Matthew 24:15 Daniel's AOD Matthew 24:21 The Great Tribulation

Quote Diaste In Response: Building what? The prophecy is rebuilding and restoring Jerusalem. Are you likening this rebuild to the Temple?

Thanks for the response! 1.) I see in scripture and believe it will be a "Future" command to build a "wall/street" in Jerusalem that will start the 70 weeks, not a command to build seen in biblical history (Nehemiah/Artaxerxes) that represents your and many others belief in a weeks or years theory 2.) You quote Daniel 9:24 with a suggestion that Jesus Christ, surrounding the time of the death, burial, and resurrection, fulfilled that seen in which you "underline"? You will closely note that the subject is "Continous" as the word "And" is used, focus on the two points below in the "Continous" context 1.)"Bring In Everlasting Righteousness" 2.) "Seal Up The Vision" This won't be complete until all that was given in the vision is "Fulfilled", Including Daniel 9:27 as seen below The antichrist will be revealed, making abomination and desolation until the "Consummation" or "Ultimate End" "Everlasting righteousness" and the "vision being sealed up" or fulfilled, will take place at the "future" second coming of Jesus Christ (The End) 7 weeks: Command and planning to build 62 weeks: Building the wall/street 1 week: antichrist revealed, armies surround Jerusalem, Daniel's AOD takes place 3.5 years: Tribulation Immediately After Tribulation: Second Coming, Consummation, The Ultimate End, Eternity Begins In The New Heaven And Earth Jesus Is The Lord! Daniel 9:27KJV 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

We Disagree The 70 literal weeks are "Future" and the scripture states "Cut Off" and that has no relationship to Jesus dying as you claim Scripture clearly teaches armies will surround Jerusalem and stop the 62 week building project of the wall/street, this is when Messiah is "Cut Off" Thanks for the response, Jesus Is The Lord!

I don't follow your teachings and beliefs, don't add your opinions to my words and belief "Please", scripture doesn't teach weeks of years or a 7 year tribulation My Belief "Future": 70 literal weeks or 490 days, the 70 weeks will start when a future command is given to build the wall/street in Jerusalem In the final 70th week the antichrist will be revealed to the world in Jerusalem proclaiming to be Messiah God, as armies surround the city in Daniel's AOD stopping the building, the 70th week comes to "COMPLETION" After the 70th literal week is "completed", the 3.5 year tribulation starts I don't believe scripture teaches a 7 year tribulation, or weeks of years as you believe and teach 70 literal weeks completed, then a 3.5 year tribulation to follow, simple, clear, and easy to understand Yes the church will have a 70 week warning, watching the command to build in Jerusalem and the literal building of the wall/street taking place for 62 weeks The antichrist being revealed, and armies surrounding Jerusalem will be just around the corner Jesus Is The Lord

The real eternal kingdom according to scripture seen below, it's going to be unspeakable! Jesus Is The Lord Ezekiel 47:5-12KJV 5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over. 6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. 7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other. 8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed. 9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. 10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many. 11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt. 12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine. Revelation 21:10-27KJV 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. 18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. 19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Thanks For The Response! My Holy Bible states Messiah will be "Cut Off" not die as you claim The command to build the wall and street to Messiah will start the future 70 weeks, Messiah will be "Cut Off" when the building stops, as armies surround the city, the scripture clearly teaches "Cut Off" is armies stopping the building to Messiah, this will end the 69 literal weeks or 483 literal days, as the 70th literal week takes place Future Picture: The Jews will have a call to build unto their awaited upon Messiah as prophesied in the Old Testament, they didn't accept Jesus as Messiah, this building to the Old testament Messiah will be stopped, and Messiah is "Cut Off" as armies surround Jerusalem, no death of Messiah as claimed At this point the future antichrist will be revealed claiming to be Messiah God, as the literal 70th week of Daniel closes in the AOD, the 3.5 year tribulation starts at this point See there below, Jesus isn't dying, the building to Messiah is "Cut Off" pretty simple if your reading a good Ole King James Version Jesus Is The Lord Daniel 9:25-26KJV 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Thanks for the response! My intent was to show that Zechariah chapter 14 & Ezekiel chapters 47-48 is "The Eternal Kingdom" with the river of life present, and not a mortal Millennial Kingdom upon this earth as many believe and teach Jesus Is The Lord!

Isaiah 66:24 is the eternal lake of fire and not "Perdition" as you claim, this will be outside the gates of "New Jerusalem", (Revelation 22:14-15) (Matthew 25:31-46) is a parable of the Great White Throne Judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15 (The End) There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End) Matthew 25:41 & 46KJV "The Lake Of Fire" 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: The Final Judgement, Eternal Life, Everlasting Punishment 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Daniel 9:24KJV 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Daniel's "Future" weeks are literal days, or 490 days, if Daniel meant years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) he didn't The command to build the wall/street in Jerusalem is "Future" that will start the 70 literal weeks "Messiah Cut Off" is "Future" when armies surround Jerusalem as Daniel's AOD takes place in the 70th future 7 day week in completion of Daniels 70 weeks or 490 literal days After this 70 week completion, the 3.5 year tribulation starts, it's that simple This teaching of weeks of years found it's entrance in the church largely surrounding the writing of occultist "Sir Issac Newton" in his 1726 book (Observation Upon The Prophecies Of Daniel, And The Apocalypse Of St. John) chapter 10 as seen below The Weeks Of Years Teaching Presented Is From Occultist "Sir Issac Newton" As Seen Below, Heavily Involved In The Occultic Kabbalah And Its Numerology, Also Occultic Rosicrucianism And Alchemy Yes It's These Writings Of "Sir Issac Newton" That Entered The Church In 1726AD, That Claims The Day/Year Teaching Regarding Daniel's 70 Weeks Being 490 Years Wikipedia: Issac Newton Occult Studies Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel/Part I Chap X Seventy weeks are cut out upon thy people, and upon thy holy city, to finish transgression, &c. Here, by putting a week for seven years, are reckoned 490 years from the time that the dispersed Jews should be re-incorporated into a people and a holy city, until the death and resurrection of Christ; whereby transgression should be finished, and sins ended, iniquity be expiated, and everlasting righteousness brought in, and this Vision be accomplished, and the Prophet consummated, that Prophet whom the Jews expected; and whereby the most Holy should be anointed, he who is therefore in the next words called the Anointed, that is, the Messiah, or the Christ. For by joining the accomplishment of the vision with the expiation of sins, the 490 years are ended with the death of Christ. Now the dispersed Jews became a people and city when they first returned into a polity or body politick; and this was in the seventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus, when Ezra returned with a body of Jews from captivity, and revived the Jewish worship; and by the King's commission created Magistrates in all the land, to judge and govern the people according to the laws of God and the King, Ezra vii. 25. There were but two returns from captivity, Zerubbabel's and Ezra's; in Zerubbabel's they had only commission to build the Temple, in Ezra's they first became a polity or city by a government of their own. Now the years of this Artaxerxes began about two or three months after the summer solstice, and his seventh year fell in with the third year of the eightieth Olympiad; and the latter part thereof, wherein Ezra went up to Jerusalem, was in the year of the Julian Period 4257. Count the time from thence to the death of Christ, and you will find it just 490 years. If you count in Judaic years commencing in autumn, and date the reckoning from the first autumn after Ezra's coming to Jerusalem, when he put the King's decree in execution; the death of Christ will fall on the year of the Julian Period 4747, Anno Domini 34; and the weeks will be Judaic weeks, ending with sabbatical years; and this I take to be the truth: but if you had rather place the death of Christ in the year before, as is commonly done, you may take the year of Ezra's journey into the reckoning.

Daniel's "Future" weeks are literal days, or 490 days, if Daniel meant years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) he didn't The command to build the wall/street in Jerusalem is "Future" that will start the 70 literal weeks "Messiah Cut Off" is "Future" when armies surround Jerusalem as Daniel's AOD takes place in the 70th future 7 day week in completion of Daniels 70 weeks or 490 literal days After this 70 week completion, the 3.5 year tribulation starts, it's that simple This teaching of weeks of years found it's entrance in the church largely surrounding the writing of occultist "Sir Issac Newton" in his 1726 book (Observation Upon The Prophecies Of Daniel, And The Apocalypse Of St. John) chapter 10 as seen below Your Teachings Presented Are From Occultist "Sir Issac Newton" As Seen Below, Heavily Involved In The Occultic Kabbalah And Its Numerology, Also Occultic Rosicrucianism And Alchemy Yes It's These Writings Of "Sir Issac Newton" That Entered The Church In 1726AD, That Claims The Day/Year Teaching Regarding Daniel's 70 Weeks Wikipedia: Issac Newton Occult Studies Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel/Part I Chap X Seventy weeks are cut out upon thy people, and upon thy holy city, to finish transgression, &c. Here, by putting a week for seven years, are reckoned 490 years from the time that the dispersed Jews should be re-incorporated into [7] a people and a holy city, until the death and resurrection of Christ; whereby transgression should be finished, and sins ended, iniquity be expiated, and everlasting righteousness brought in, and this Vision be accomplished, and the Prophet consummated, that Prophet whom the Jews expected; and whereby the most Holy should be anointed, he who is therefore in the next words called the Anointed, that is, the Messiah, or the Christ. For by joining the accomplishment of the vision with the expiation of sins, the 490 years are ended with the death of Christ. Now the dispersed Jews became a people and city when they first returned into a polity or body politick; and this was in the seventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus, when Ezra returned with a body of Jews from captivity, and revived the Jewish worship; and by the King's commission created Magistrates in all the land, to judge and govern the people according to the laws of God and the King, Ezra vii. 25. There were but two returns from captivity, Zerubbabel's and Ezra's; in Zerubbabel's they had only commission to build the Temple, in Ezra's they first became a polity or city by a government of their own. Now the years of this Artaxerxes began about two or three months after the summer solstice, and his seventh year fell in with the third year of the eightieth Olympiad; and the latter part thereof, wherein Ezra went up to Jerusalem, was in the year of the Julian Period 4257. Count the time from thence to the death of Christ, and you will find it just 490 years. If you count in Judaic years commencing in autumn, and date the reckoning from the first autumn after Ezra's coming to Jerusalem, when he put the King's decree in execution; the death of Christ will fall on the year of the Julian Period 4747, Anno Domini 34; and the weeks will be Judaic weeks, ending with sabbatical years; and this I take to be the truth: but if you had rather place the death of Christ in the year before, as is commonly done, you may take the year of Ezra's journey into the reckoning.

We Disagree on your claim "There Was No More "Sea", Representing A Ocean Of Water, The Horse Is Dead, It's All Yours The "Sea" mentioned in Revelation 21:1 represents "Multitudes Of People" not oceans of water as you suggest The multitudes of people are gone, not found in the New Heaven and Earth, Narrow is the way, few will find it There was no more "Sea" meaning "multitudes of people" Just as the beast rises out of the "Sea" meaning multitudes of people, not oceans of water The whore sits on "Waters" and the scripture below clearly interprets the waters as "multitudes of people" Jesus Is The Lord Revelation 21:1KJV 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 13:1KJV 1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. Revelation 17:15KJV 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

What has your comment and opinion to do with the topic of Zechariah 14:8 and the eternal kingdom? Jesus Is The Lord

Daniel's 70 literal weeks are "future", and will start at a "Future" command to build a wall/street in Jerusalem In the "Future" 70th week the antichrist will be revealed in Jerusalem, armies will surround the city as the 70th week is "Completed", at this time the "Future" 3.5 year tribulation starts The 3.5 year tribulation that follows the 70th weeks completion is seen in the 1260 days of the two witnesses Revelation 11:3 & Revelation 13:5 the beast's 42 months, "Parallel" time frames totaling 3.5 years As previously shown to you several times, the 1260 days and 42 months are "Parallel Time Frames" and not chronological as many believe and teach

I disagree with your preterist claims of Titus fulfilling Daniel 9

The "Sea" mentioned in Revelation 21:1 represents "Multitudes Of People" not oceans of water as you suggest The multitudes of people are gone, not found in the New Heaven and Earth, Narrow is the way, few will find it There was no more "Sea" meaning multitudes of people Just as the beast rises out of the "Sea" meaning multitudes of people, not oceans of water The whore sits on "Waters" and the scripture below clearly interprets the waters as "multitudes of people" Jesus Is The Lord Revelation 21:1KJV 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 13:1KJV 1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. Revelation 17:15KJV 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

I Disagree with your claim Daniel's 70 weeks are years If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) he didn't Daniel's 70 literal weeks are "future", and will start at a "Future" command to build a wall/street in Jerusalem In the "Future" 70th week the antichrist will be revealed in Jerusalem, armies will surround the city as the 70th week is "Completed", at this time the "Future" 3.5 year tribulation starts

Revelation 11:15-18 is (The End) (Final Judgement) Revelation 11:18KJV 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

"The Eternal Kingdom" The River Of Life Flowing From New Jerusalem Zechariah 14:8KJV 8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. Revelation 22:1KJV 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Ezekiel 47:1-12KJV 1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar. 2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side. 3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. 4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins. 5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over. 6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. 7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other. 8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed. 9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. 10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many. 11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt. 12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.