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It's my belief that the future (Man Of Sin/Antichrist) will be a Jewish King/Ruler, it's my belief that the Roman Catholic Pope will be the future (False Prophet) my "Opinion" So as per your observation, I would agree that the two will work together and become one Jesus Is The Lord

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I fully agree that Judaism and Rome are false religions, also the Church is in apostasy However, mystery Babylon is clearly described as (Great City) and is guilty of the (Prophets Blood) Rome didnt exist to be guilty of this blood, only Jerusalem matches this (Great City) guilty of the (Prophets Blood) In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

The (Two Witnesses) "Alone" in Revelation Chapter 11 are the two olive trees and two candlesticks, they are the golden "Pipes" that will pour the golden oil/vials of Gods wrath upon the wicked world in "Plagues", this being the golden oil in vials, that is the prayers of the saints Revelation 11:3-6KJV 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. The explanation of Revelation 11:3-6, The Two Witnesses Are The olive trees and candlesticks, the two golden "Pipes" through which the golden oil in the vials of Gods wrath will flow in the seven last plagues Zechariah 4:1-14KJV 1 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep. 2 And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof: 3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. 4 So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord? 5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts. 7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it. 8 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you. 10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth. 11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. Revelation 15:7-8KJV 7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. Revelation 5:8KJV 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

I started this thread, and it's the place to discuss biblical topics, no need to start a thread, you have full permission to respond, not that its needed, were the only ones currently in discussion Once Again I'm trying to understand your system of belief, so far you haven't hid this, simple yes/no 1.) Do you believe in the trinity? 1 John 5:7KJV 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 2.) Do you believe Jesus Christ is "God"? John 1:1KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The plagues brought as seen below clearly describe Elijah for certain Revelation 11:6KJV 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Thanks for supporting my claim Yes you were talking about myself "a person" and my posting quoting "bad, the negative", yes you stated it borders on "anti-semitism", yes your claim is false, and a direct personal attack

John 14:2-3KJV 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

There is one time of future resurrection of all that have lived, this takes place on the last day at the second coming of Jesus Christ, John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40, John 12:48, 1 Corinthians 15:23-24 This event takes place in the twinkling of an eye as 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 describes "First Resurrection" is used to denote the one and only resurrection of believers as Revelation 20:4-6 describes this term used as "First Resurrection"

I disagree with your symbolic interpretation and will stick with John's interpretation seen below, a literal city with walls, gates, and foundations Revelation 21:10-14KJV 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The Babylon in Revelation 18 is earthly Jerusalem the whore mystery Babylon the great The Jerusalem seen in Zechariah 14 is "New Jerusalem" in the New Heaven and Earth, the eternal kingdom where the river of life is present and flowing, the new creation is revealed, after the day of the Lord has taken place

Joe you did bring the false accusation that my OP is "Borderline Antisemetic" Joe I disagree with your claims, Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots, just as the OP shows

The harlot is NY City headquarters of the UN? That belongs in the conspiracy forum, smiles!

I'm trying to understand your system of belief, so far you haven't hid this, simple yes/no Once Again Do you believe in the trinity? 1 John 5:7KJV 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Do you believe Jesus Christ is "God"? John 1:1KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I'm trying to understand your system of belief, so far you haven't hid this Once Again Do you believe in the trinity? 1 John 5:7KJV 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Do you believe Jesus Christ is "God"? John 1:1KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Do you believe in the trinity? 1 John 5:7KJV 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Do you believe Jesus Christ is "God"? John 1:1KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Great Tribulation Will Be Upon The Antichrist And Wicked, The Sealed Church Is Protected, Dont Be Deceived The Sealed Church On Earth During The Tribulation Will Escape The Plagues Seen There's Going To Be An End Times Persecution, The Beast And His Kingdom Are The Target Of God's Empowered (Two Witnesses) The Great Tribulation Will Come Upon The Wicked World, While The (Sealed Church) Is Protected The (Sealed Church) will be present on earth and protected, when wicked men are tormented 5 months, desiring to die as death flees All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30 Ephesians 1:13KJV 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 4:30KJV 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. It Was Commanded, Only Those Without God's Seal Will Be Tormented, The Sealed Church Is Protected Revelation 9:3-6KJV 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Plagues upon The Beast and his Kingdom, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt Revelation 11:3-6KJV 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. Revelation 16:1-11KJV 1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. 3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. 4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. 8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. 10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Jesus Christ is the Alpha/Omega, Jesus Christ will come quickly, Jesus Christ sent his angel to testify, Jesus Christ is the root and offspring of David, the bright and morning star Revelation 22:12-16KJV 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

A map of this present earth has absolutely no value, Zechariah 14 is a "New Creation" as the plain is lifted up, "New" Good Night, Jesus Is The Lord Zechariah 14:10KJV 10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

We disagree, Zechariah 14 represents the eternal Kingdom "After" the day of the Lord takes place, same fire in final judgement of man seen in Zachariah 14:12, Luke 17:29-30, Revelation 20:7-9, 2 Peter 3:10 Same river of Life in Zechariah 14:8 as is seen in Revelation 22:1-2 We have run about the bush on Zechariah 14, the horse is dead Jesus Is The Lord

Jesus Christ is the Alpha/Omega he is outside of time and space, he is eternal, and those seen in Revelation 20:1-6 are in the Lords eternal, God is a Spirit, and his world is Spiritual

We disagree, the Kingdom seen in Zechariah 14 is the eternal kingdom, after the day of the Lord has taken place, same river of life in this kingdom as seen in Revelation 22:1-2, same place in the eternal kingdom in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

We disagree, they are all the same battle in parallel teachings, and Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords eternal spiritual, and it's not changing anytime soon