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  1. Hey Sower, LOL....... You have to read between the lines...... Bahahaha I never checked it after I posted it. My bad? I'll fix it..... and thanks for bringing it to my attention
  2. My brother in Scotland sent this to me today. Talk about "Lots of Meanings"! Enjoy! SIX LITTLE STORIES WITH LOTS OF MEANINGS 1) Once all villagers decided to pray for rain. On the day of prayer, all the people gathered, but only one boy came with an umbrella. - That is faith 2) When you throw babies in the air, they laugh because they know you will catch them. - That is trust 3) Every night we go to bed without any assurance of being alive the next morning, but we still set the alarms to wake up. - That is hope 4) We plan big things for tomorrow in spite of zero knowledge of the future. - That is confidence 5) We see the world suffering, but still, we get married and have children - That is love 6) On an old man's shirt was written a sentence "I am not 80 years old; I am sweet 16 with 64 years of experience" - That is attitude Have a happy day and live your life like these six stories. Remember - Good friends are the rare jewels of life, difficult to find and impossible to replace!
  3. Hey OC, Well, I'll not try and convince anyone on what apostasia means. I don't think that a team of Belgian Draft Horses could pull someone off of their strongly held beliefs. But I will say this. To some, "apostasia" might give the impression that it refers to leaving say, an organization, a church. But "apostasia" means "to depart from truth"! A person can remain in an organization, a church, and be departing from the truth all along. It points to a deliberate abandonment of a former professed belief. Look at what Paul says in 2Thes 2:9-12: "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. In 1Tim 4:1.....the context denotes a departure or apostasy from the faith, the revealed truth of God. 'Nuf said! ----------------------------- Now then, I have a question: Acts 3:21 states that Jesus MUST stay in heaven until the times of restitution of all things, which includes the restoration of the theocracy under David's son, which obviously can't begin before or during antichrist's reign. So, the question is: How can there be a pre-trib rapture if Jesus MUST stay in heaven until the times of restitution of all things?
  4. Hi Marilyn, I think you meant to say "of" and not "on"........typo? One scripture does not a doctrine make. ..................... I agree. But if we look at ALL the scriptures that point to The Holy One of Israel, and I have found 30 of them: (2 Kings 19:22; Psalms 71:22; Psalms 78:41; Psalms 89:18; Isaiah 1:4; Isaiah 5:19; Isaiah 5:24; Isaiah 10:20; Isaiah 12:6; Isaiah 17:7; Isaiah 29:19; Isaiah 30:11-12; Isaiah 30:15; Isaiah 31:1; Isaiah 37:23; Isaiah 41:14; Isaiah 41:16; Isaiah 41:20; Isaiah 43:3; Isaiah 43:14; Isaiah 45:11; Isaiah 47:4; Isaiah 48:17; Isaiah 49:7; Isaiah 54:5; Isaiah 55:5; Isaiah 60:9; Isaiah 60:14; Jeremiah 50:29; Jeremiah 51:5) And then there is this single one from Ezekiel 39:7:.........The Holy One IN Israel. Was this a "typo" from the scribes?...or translators? Hardly! The vast majority of Bibles have "IN Israel". "My Holy Name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My Holy Name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the Lord, the Holy One IN Israel.......Behold, it is coming and it shall be done, declares the Lord God. ...."That is the day of which I have spoken" -Jesus is going to make His name known "in the MIDST of My people Israel"..... In the middle of His people. He has to be there to do this. -Jesus will not let His name be profaned anymore. How can this be at the beginning of the trib when, during the 7 years following, many will curse God (same as profane) -The nations will know that "I am the Lord"...... How will they know this?.....Because He will be IN Israel! - "It is coming...it shall be done".....WHAT is coming?, and WHAT shall be done?......This is the answer > "That is the day of which I have spoken"......What day is He talking about?....It can be no other DAY than the DAY of the Lord. So, following along from Ezekiel 39:8, where it says...."That is the day of which I have spoken", what does the prophet say next? verse 9..."THEN those who inhabit the cities of Israel will go out and make fires with the weapons....." "THEN"...... is a word that follows the preceding thought. Perhaps you can't imagine that Israel will be burning weapons during the first 7 years of the millennium. Why not? They will be turning their spears and swords into plow shares and pruning hooks. Sounds like they will be farming doesn't it? There will be much rebuilding during the millennium.
  5. Hi Marilyn, You never answered this: He also tells us that He is the Lord, the Holy One IN Israel. This is the only time in scripture where "the Holy One IN Israel" is used. All the other times it is "the Holy One OF Israel"............... So, how can Jesus be IN Israel before the 70th week? The surviving Gentiles come to a saving knowledge of God (Ez. 39:6-7) In keeping with the LORD’s many prophetic indication that He will bring many Gentile nations to Himself (Isaiah 11:9, 60:14, Psalm 22:27), as a direct result of the destruction of Gog and his armies, the LORD says that, “the nations (Gentiles) shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One IN Israel” (Ezekiel 39:7). Some have attempted to diminish the significance of this statement, treating it as a mere intellectual acknowledgment of God void of any actual saving knowledge. This however, simply does not do justice to language of the passage. How can it be said that the nations come to know and acknowledge that the LORD God, the Holy One IN Israel, is the one and only true God, at a time immediately before they all come together to blaspheme His name, invade His land and kill His people? This simply wouldn’t make any sense. This passage only makes sense if it occurs at the end of the great tribulation, not at the beginning.
  6. Hi Marilyn, I appreciate your answers, though I don't agree with them. I have a few more concerns: --If Israel is going to burn weapons for 7 years, along with burying the slain for 7 months, then how will they be doing this if the antichrist forces enter Jerusalem at the 3 1/2 year mark, and the Jews flee to the wilderness.? I don't see anywhere in scripture that says they only burn weapons for 3 1/2 years. --"My Holy Name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My Holy Name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the Lord, the Holy One IN Israel. Behold, it is coming and it shall be done, declares the Lord God. That is the day of which I have spoken".....Ezek 39:7-8 So in this passage, Jesus tells us that after the war, He will not let His Holy Name be profaned anymore. How can this be before the 70th week of Daniel? He also tells us that He is the Lord, the Holy One IN Israel. This is the only time in scripture where "the Holy One IN Israel" is used. All the other times it is "the Holy One OF Israel"............... So, how can Jesus be IN Israel before the 70th week? --In Ezek 39:22...."And the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward. ....vs 23...."The nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile for their inequity"........How does this work before the 70th week? --In Ezek 39:17-20.....It talks about how the birds of the air and beasts of the field will gorge themselves on all the dead. Does this happen twice, at the beginning of the 70th week and again at the battle of Armageddon at the end of the 70th week?....(Rev 19:17-18) --In Ezek 38:18-20, There is a great earthquake so that "all the men who are on the face of the earth will shake at MY PRESENCE"....the mountains will be thrown down, and every wall will fall to the ground. But when we look at Matthew 24:15, Jesus says "When you see the AofD, then those in Judea must flee to the mountains"...... Well, here we have a huge problem. If all the mountains were thrown down at the beginning of the 70th week, then how can those in Judea flee to the mountains? That will do for now. I have more concerns
  7. Hi Marilyn, So, I have some questions. How far BEFORE the start of the 7 years is this war?............. If Israel has to burn weapons for 7 years, then the war will have needed to end at the start of the 7 years. If Israel is going to burn weapons for 7 years, along with burying the slain for 7 months, then how will they be doing this if the antichrist forces enter Jerusalem at the 3 1/2 year mark, and the Jews flee to the wilderness.? I don't see anywhere in scripture that says they only burn weapons for 3 1/2 years. 2. Dan. 9: 27. `Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week,` (7 years). After a war there is always a Peace treaty, covenant etc. Thus after the Russian war there will be a Peace Treaty for 7 years. Dan 9:27 clearly states that "he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week" How is making a "NEW PEACE TREATY" .....the same as "confirming a covenant"??? If God is judging these nations, basically slaying them on the mountains of Israel, how is it that these nations appear at the Battle of Armageddon at the end of the 70th week?
  8. Hi Dennis, If this is immediately before the return of Christ, after the Battle of Armageddon, then I would agree. But if this is before the 70th week, or early into the 70th week, then I would strongly disagree. Here is where a mixture of biblical prophecy and fantasy collide with the harsh realities of demographics. If we list every single nation that has ever been even suggested as being part of both Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38,39, this would still only represent less than one-third of the total Muslim world population. If every single soldier in every nation that has ever been suggested as being part of Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38,39 was gone, this would only represent less than 2 percent of the total 1.6 billion Muslims of the world. So because a mere 2 percent of the Muslims of the world are defeated, somehow this means that the other 1.6 billion Muslims will no longer exist or that they will all suddenly convert to a new religion? Let’s take this scenario even further. Let’s imagine that every single person in every one of these nations was removed from the picture, leaving not a single survivor, man, woman or child, something no one is even suggesting will occur, then how would this change things? Would Islam be “wiped out” as the denialists claim? Far from it. In fact, there would still remain well over a billion Muslims worldwide. Islam would continue to have more adherents than Protestant Christianity globally. Muslims would continue to be a vast and vibrant force worldwide Any suggestion that Islam will disappear from the earth several years prior to the return of Jesus is a fantasy.
  9. Hi RM, What's happening now in the Middle East with regards to Iran is BEFORE Daniel 8:9. Back up to Daniel 8:3. There it talks about the Ram, Iran, charging West, North and South. He will be stopped by the "male goat"....... Turkey. Turkey will be "enraged" at the Ram. ...... Why?....... Because Iran will declare the 12th Iman and caliphate. Iran is Shia. Turkey will have no part of this. That is why they will be enraged. They say Constantinople is the rightful city. They say that is where the caliphate should be. And it will be Sunni. And that is why this is such BIG news. Never before has the red flag been hoisted on the Jamarkan Mosque. Iran is pissed. They want war. They want revenge. And the Mahdi comes when there is war and instability. Iran is going to make that happen.
  10. Red Flag over Mahdi’s Mosque in Iran The RED FLAG is about to be raised over Mahdi's Mosque in Iran. The color red typically means war and blood. This is a first time that the red flag is about to be hoisted. The Shia Muslim leadership is declaring now is the time for Mahdi to come and finally undo the great injustices, and for him to come so a great war will be started. Iran is currently in 3 days of mourning. That will be over on Monday. Will we see war? Perhaps. But maybe Iran will prepare for spring war. This is prophesied in Daniel 8. I know many people believe Daniel 8 was fulfilled. But the Angel Gabriel said, not one time, but three times, that the prophecy is for the end times. The Ram is Iran. The Ram butts westward, northward and southward. They are doing this very thing. They have wars in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Palestine, Pakistan and Bahrain. That's west, north and south. Has the second horseman just been handed his great sword? Ya'll better rethink Daniels prophecy. This is prophecy being fulfilled right before our eyes. Watch.......and pray..........and prepare!
  11. RM, I suppose I can say the same thing. "I have yet to see you make a valid argument against what I have posted" All I see are opinions, and inferences without biblical evidence. SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURES! The Resurrection and Rapture are the biggest events since Jesus. And yet, you want me to see it somewhere in Rev 4:1? Unmarked? It must be one of those "read between the lines". You said " Rev. 4:1 is where the Rapture is presented as happening, we see the Churches in Rev. 2 and 3, and then we see the Church in Heaven with the Crowns, Robes and sitting on Thrones in the midst of the throne room. and we see the Church who has been REDEEMED in Revelation 5:9, you just don't like following the scriptures inferences brother. If it's "presented as happening"...then show it. I don't see it. You said " Church in Heaven with the Crowns, Robes and sitting on Thrones in the midst of the throne room....... I'm pretty sure that the saints will sit with Christ on His throne. So whoever it is that is sitting on these other thrones, it is not the church. You said...."Church in Heaven with the Crowns, Robes The angels wear white clothing. The beast, the rider on the white horse....they are wearing crowns. This means squat! The Rapture is a known fact as per the Bible. ........ Never said it wasn't, brother.
  12. Hi Marilyn, Trying to tie Russia in with Ezekiel's prophecy in Ezekiel 38/39 just doesn't fit. If you look at the following atlas's, they all put Meshech, Tubal, Gomer and Togarmah....ie the Land of Magog, with Gog being its prince, in ASIA MINOR, modern day TURKEY IVP Atlas of the Bible.......IVP New Bible Atlas....Holman Bible Atlas......Zondervan Atlas of the Bible.....ESV Bible Atlas Harper Collins Atlas of Bible History.....Bakers Bible Atlas.....Macmillan Bible Atlas.......Oxford Bible Atlas.....New Ungers Bible Dictionary
  13. Hi RM, We have to look at what John SAW:.....and what was said. "He was speaking with me"....(not us)......"And I will show YOU"....(singular)....."Immediately I was in the Spirit"......( singular, not WE) He saw 24 thrones He saw 24 elders sitting. (They just arrived and now they're sitting?...Really?) If the church saints had just been raptured, along with all the others who had died and were resurrected, why did he see only 24....sitting.....and only 24. Where are the 100's of millions and probably billions of saints? How can they all sit on only 24 thrones? You, along with many others, are reading WAY TOO MUCH into this one text. Read this. It's from a commentary on Revelation. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones; and upon the thrones I saw (1) twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and golden crowns on their heads. The Jews would have readily understood the entity elders. Both the meaning and significance of the term would have been plain to John’s Jewish audience. However, John does not use the Greek article with this noun, which indicates that the readers were not familiar with this particular group of beings. That the elders are angelic beings would not be questioned if it were not for a poor translation of Revelation 5:9-10 in the King James Version of the Bible. King James translation of Revelation 5:9-10: And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth (Italics added). New American Standard translation: And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy art Thou to take the book, and to break its seals; for Thou wast slain, and didst purchase for God with Thy blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. "And Thou hast made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth" (Italics added). The difference is easily recognized: KJV = "us, us and we" vs. NASB = "men, them, and they" The central issue concerns the Greek manuscripts used as the basis for our English translation. In terms of the sheer number of manuscripts, a reading with us is favored in verse 9. This would support the King James translation. However, following this same reasoning results in a contradiction with the last part of verse 10. The verb "they shall reign" is clearly third person plural. In other words, "they shall reign" and not "we shall reign," which is a first person plural pronoun. Now a good English student knows that subjective and objective pronouns must agree in number, i.e., singular with singular and plural with plural. Since we believe that John did not make mistakes when recording his prophecy and that Scripture does not contain contradictions, we support a harmony of the text. There is very little debate that verse 10 should read "they," and not "we." A guiding principle of biblical interpretation is to interpret the difficult in light of the clear. Reasoning back to the first part of verse 10, we conclude that the phrase "You have made us" should read "You have made them." This would necessitate that verse 9 should read "You have redeemed them." This is the only reading of verses 9-10 that removes any possible contradiction, which is reflected in the New American Standard translation. This interpretation also answers the question concerning the identity of the elders. At least we are able to say that they are heavenly beings and in no way can be identified with the "church." I follow the scriptures to a tee, I don't go down rabbit holes made by other men. With all due respect, I beg to differ!
  14. KJV, I believe that the saints,the church, the true believers, the called out ones, the faithful, those saved by His blood......they will be raptured and caught up together with the resurrected saints from all ages, at the end of the great tribulation, before God pours out His wrath against all unbelievers. God's wrath is the trumpet and bowl judgments. Jesus lays all this out in Matthew 24. The apostles asked for a sign of His return and of the end of the age, and the only signs He gave were the 6 seals. He didn't give any trumpet or bowl signs. Either Jesus is deceiving us......or our preconceived notions blind us from seeing the truth. Tribulation is not wrath. God alone will be exalted in the Day of His Wrath. Which, by the way, starts on a DAY but lasts a YEAR. ( Isa 34:8, 61:2, 63:4) The same length of time Noah and crew were in the Ark. Tribulation will be the saints finest hour. They will witness to the world and testify about Jesus.
  15. KJV, Satan has been pummeling God's church for 2,000 years..... beheading, burning alive, boiling in oil, butchering, you name it, he's done it. Rev 4:1......ahhhh yes, the famous Jack Van Impe call to "come up here" ! John describes everything that he saw. The throne, the One sitting on the throne, the 24 thrones, the 24 elders, the 4 living creatures....all in great detail. But....the one group that he doesn't see nor describe are the 100's of millions, maybe billions of the resurrected and raptured saints. I guess they were hiding from John, and they come out of hiding after the sixth seal is broken. And please......don't use that line that "the church isn't mentioned after Rev 3:22. There are at least 9 different references to the church in Rev 4 - 19: 1. Every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 5:9c 2. A kingdom and priest, 5:10 3. Fifth seal martyrs, 6:9 4. A multitude, 7:9; 19:5-6 5. Bond-servants, 11:18; 19:2, 5 6. Our brethren, 12:10 7. The rest of her children, 12:17 8. Saints, 13:7, 10; 14:12; 18:20, 24 9. Wife, 19:7
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