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Except for man. It is true that God is in control over anything but not with our choice. He can be in control in our lives only if we let Him. Even if God wants everyone to be saved, He will not get it, or it will not happen if we don't want to be saved. So to extend your argument further, you subscribe to the idea of God having unlimited love but limited power as he stands by and watches millions upon millions of people damn themselves to hell. Our heavenly father is greater than our earthly father yet your idea of God would be like a father who instructs his child not to jump in the deep end of a pool because the child cannot swim, yet when the child disobeys his father, the father stands by and does nothing to save his child’s life allowing the child to suffer death owing to the consequences of disobedience. Surely any loving earthly father would rescue their child (even a stranger would). Would not God who loves us more than our own fathers do the same? At the other end of the spectrum, God possesses unlimited power but limited love. God is totally in charge and chooses some to salvation and by default consigns most to hell. You are absolutely right, Elhanan. As painful as it may seem, God will let His 'child' to suffer death because the child chooses to disobey his Father. This is what happened to our first parents Adam and Eve. God loves Man so much that he prepared all of the things that he will need before his existence. But with His unlimited power, God let the consequences affect Man which is death. This is what we called 'free will'. This makes us unique from all God's creation. God does not interfere in our choices. Although He is more than willing to guide us in our choices if we let Him lead our lives. Although we can sometimes compare God and our earthly father on love and fatherhood, but we can't totally compare them always. God is way beyond our understanding. We must not try to understand all of His works or else we will only questioning His will. This is called Faith. Just because we don't understand His will or it doesn't met our standard doesn't mean He is wrong and irrational. God will remain God whether we accept it or not. After all, He is God. He is the Creator and the Owner. He makes His own rules. Who are we to question Him? But I'm not worrying about injustice because I know He is just and perfect, way smarter than I am.

Except for man. It is true that God is in control over anything but not with our choice. He can be in control in our lives only if we let Him. Even if God wants everyone to be saved, He will not get it, or it will not happen if we don't want to be saved.

I am a believer/follower of the Lord Jesus Christ and my question to you is just to clarify with your "Word," what does it stand for? To some people that I met and talked to, "the Word" to them stand for the bible itself, but to some they refer the "Word" to Jesus but later on I discovered same is anchored in the bible, too. This is the reason why I am asking you, I want to be clarified with your "Word," if you may? The Word is the Bible, and the Word is from the Living God. Old Test. and New Test, All 66 Books. It depends on the use of the word "Word". It can be both used on the Bible if it is used for God's commandments and instructions, while it can be referred to Jesus if it is used as a person. The Word is one of Jesus' title. The word can be said as the 'word' (the Bible) and the 'Word' (Jesus). While it can be used on both, it's not necessarily mean Jesus is the Bible.

Every one in this forum and so with other fora of this nature has each his own respective understanding and misunderstanding of the scriptures in general. Not all in the scripture can be understood just like that. The question is who has the genuine understanding amongst us who read the bible? I categorically say that I do not have, how about you? Saying the bible is "the word of God" means vague to me since God is alive and real and the Word of God is with Him (God), always. What I believe in the bible is that words that God uttered in the past are now recorded in it (bible). If I want to know the meaning of those words uttered by God in the past that are now in the bible, all I have to do is to come to and call on to God the way that Larry decided to out of his desperation - go and come straight to God and ask Him to teach me/us but this time, we have to learn the art of waiting to God to respond to our call. Usually, the Bible already has the answer to our prayers, whether we ask God for His guidance or ask for answers to our questions. People wait for God's voice, signs, dreams, miracles, but what we are looking for is already in the Bible. Try to read and study the Bible and you'll learn that it is already complete.