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Thankful, you might have missed this question that was asked you in response to your comments about metaphors: What do you think, Thankful??? Was Jesus telling us to mutilate our bodies by literally cutting off our hand if we sin? Jesus was telling us just how important it is not to sin. Yes if there was the slightest chance that my eye would cause me to sin, and not be able to enter the kingdom of God, I would have my eye taken out. Now Jesus gave us his Holy Spirit/grace so we could make sure that Satan/sin could never have its way with us. You didn't answer the question. I did not ask you if you would take your eye out I asked you if Jesus' remarks about cutting off your hand meant that Jesus in fact expects us to mutilate ourselves in that way if we sin. In other words, are we sinning today by not cutting off our hands if we sin?? Was Jesus' command meant to promote self mutiliation or was that manner of speaking meant to communicate a bigger point? Did I ever say Jesus did not use hyperbole to make a point? Read what I said. It does not take a brain surgeon to understand to know when Jesus did use hyperbole. People try to twist the bible by saying Jesus was using hyperbole when he was not.

Thankful, you might have missed this question that was asked you in response to your comments about metaphors: What do you think, Thankful??? Was Jesus telling us to mutilate our bodies by literally cutting off our hand if we sin? Jesus was telling us just how important it is not to sin. Yes if there was the slightest chance that my eye would cause me to sin, and not be able to enter the kingdom of God, I would have my eye taken out. Now Jesus gave us his Holy Spirit/grace so we could make sure that Satan/sin could never have its way with us.

actually, what it says in Romans 8 is that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the witness that we are the children of God. Romans 8 says nothing about living a sinless life. It says that the righteousness of the law is fullfilled within us. Furthermore, Jesus has already defeated Satan. I don't need to defeat Satan. He was defeated 2000 years ago by Jesus. I walk in the victory that Jesus won FOR me. I don't need to re-fight a war that has already been won. Yes, but that reality is not part of our experience. One thing you need to understand is that there is a difference between how the Bible speaks of "sin" in terms of our bondage to the dominion of sin (our sinful condition) and eradication of any possibilty of committing sin. "Sin" is still here on the earth. It is still part of the human experience, so it is not "abolished." Jesus came to abolish sin, but that reality will not be manifest until He returns and sets the world aright. Romans 1:1-5:11 speaks of the sins we commit. Romans 5:12-8:39 speaks to the bondage of sin we are born into by default as human beings. God works from the inside out. He has set us free from the law of sin and death, but that does not automatically mean that we never, ever sin again as human beings. We all have personality flaws, and shortcomings and you are only fooling yourself if you think you have not sinned in the last year or whatever. What John is saying when you exmaine the original Greek is that those who live in perpetual, habitual, ongoing sin have never known Jesus. He is not saying that if you sin ONE time, you have never known Jesus. You are completely misunderstanding John. As Christians we cannot receive the false teachings and sloppy theology you are peddling on this board. You truly can’t see what is done to scripture to make it fit what you want to believe? My job is just to give a word. I have given that word to you. I also give my witness that a Christian does not sin. So then...are you declaring yourself sinless? Why then...would you need Jesus at all? God has made a home in me, and it is because of God’s protection of his home that allows me to never sin. (John 14:21-23) “Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.' Judas –not Judas Iscariot – said to him, ‘Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world? Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.” So you are perfect then? Why do you need Jesus at all? This passage does not speak of any perfection being had after God being within you. Rather it says that anyone who LOVES Jesus will follow His teachings and do as He instructed us to do. Also that God will love this person and will come into Him making a home therein. That is right we are to follow what Jesus said. He said go and sin no more. He called us to be perfect. (Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.” The word for perfect there, does not mean "sinless." You are reading a shallow definition of the biblical word into the Bible. People make the bible to be nothing but a novel, because when they don’t like what it says they find a different meaning. Just another reason why not to trust any man’s teachings about God.

Remember something that being saved does not mean one will enter the kingdom of God. If you believe it does mean that, then show me using the written Word of God. Paul tells us that a sinner will never enter the kingdom of God. That again is written in the bible. Where then does one who will be judged under the law go if he or she did not live God’s Word? (Galations 5:13-26) Scripture tells us what will happen to one who does know God and deliberately commits a sin. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies.”

actually, what it says in Romans 8 is that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the witness that we are the children of God. Romans 8 says nothing about living a sinless life. It says that the righteousness of the law is fullfilled within us. Furthermore, Jesus has already defeated Satan. I don't need to defeat Satan. He was defeated 2000 years ago by Jesus. I walk in the victory that Jesus won FOR me. I don't need to re-fight a war that has already been won. Yes, but that reality is not part of our experience. One thing you need to understand is that there is a difference between how the Bible speaks of "sin" in terms of our bondage to the dominion of sin (our sinful condition) and eradication of any possibilty of committing sin. "Sin" is still here on the earth. It is still part of the human experience, so it is not "abolished." Jesus came to abolish sin, but that reality will not be manifest until He returns and sets the world aright. Romans 1:1-5:11 speaks of the sins we commit. Romans 5:12-8:39 speaks to the bondage of sin we are born into by default as human beings. God works from the inside out. He has set us free from the law of sin and death, but that does not automatically mean that we never, ever sin again as human beings. We all have personality flaws, and shortcomings and you are only fooling yourself if you think you have not sinned in the last year or whatever. What John is saying when you exmaine the original Greek is that those who live in perpetual, habitual, ongoing sin have never known Jesus. He is not saying that if you sin ONE time, you have never known Jesus. You are completely misunderstanding John. As Christians we cannot receive the false teachings and sloppy theology you are peddling on this board. You truly can’t see what is done to scripture to make it fit what you want to believe? My job is just to give a word. I have given that word to you. I also give my witness that a Christian does not sin. So then...are you declaring yourself sinless? Why then...would you need Jesus at all? God has made a home in me, and it is because of God’s protection of his home that allows me to never sin. (John 14:21-23) “Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.' Judas –not Judas Iscariot – said to him, ‘Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world? Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.” So you are perfect then? Why do you need Jesus at all? This passage does not speak of any perfection being had after God being within you. Rather it says that anyone who LOVES Jesus will follow His teachings and do as He instructed us to do. Also that God will love this person and will come into Him making a home therein. That is right we are to follow what Jesus said. He said go and sin no more. He called us to be perfect. (Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

actually, what it says in Romans 8 is that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the witness that we are the children of God. Romans 8 says nothing about living a sinless life. It says that the righteousness of the law is fullfilled within us. Furthermore, Jesus has already defeated Satan. I don't need to defeat Satan. He was defeated 2000 years ago by Jesus. I walk in the victory that Jesus won FOR me. I don't need to re-fight a war that has already been won. Yes, but that reality is not part of our experience. One thing you need to understand is that there is a difference between how the Bible speaks of "sin" in terms of our bondage to the dominion of sin (our sinful condition) and eradication of any possibilty of committing sin. "Sin" is still here on the earth. It is still part of the human experience, so it is not "abolished." Jesus came to abolish sin, but that reality will not be manifest until He returns and sets the world aright. Romans 1:1-5:11 speaks of the sins we commit. Romans 5:12-8:39 speaks to the bondage of sin we are born into by default as human beings. God works from the inside out. He has set us free from the law of sin and death, but that does not automatically mean that we never, ever sin again as human beings. We all have personality flaws, and shortcomings and you are only fooling yourself if you think you have not sinned in the last year or whatever. What John is saying when you exmaine the original Greek is that those who live in perpetual, habitual, ongoing sin have never known Jesus. He is not saying that if you sin ONE time, you have never known Jesus. You are completely misunderstanding John. As Christians we cannot receive the false teachings and sloppy theology you are peddling on this board. You truly can’t see what is done to scripture to make it fit what you want to believe? My job is just to give a word. I have given that word to you. I also give my witness that a Christian does not sin. So then...are you declaring yourself sinless? Why then...would you need Jesus at all? God has made a home in me, and it is because of God’s protection of his home that allows me to never sin. (John 14:21-23) “Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.' Judas –not Judas Iscariot – said to him, ‘Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world? Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

People ask yourselves; can one truly be following Jesus if one sins? Remember a Christian walks as Jesus walked. A sinner will never enter the kingdom of God, because a sinner is of the devil. (Galatians 5:16)“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence....”. (1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”

Jesus told us to judge a tree by its fruit. Sin is not a good fruit. Sin is evil, and anyone who tries to justify one who sins is also evil. Tools to Twist Bible I would like to share some of the tools people use to twist the written Word of God. The tool often used is the Greek Word. I believe the Holy Spirit was much involved with the people that translated the Greek scripture to the English version. I also believe they understood the Greek as well or better than the people who try to make people believe the English version is not accurate. What a con and an elitist act it is to use a study of a language to try and convince others he or she is right because they have some special knowledge of a language. There are any numbers of translations of the bible, and all tend to slant the Word to read such as to verify one theology or another Hyperbole is also used a lot. Jesus did not mean that it is just an exaggeration. Then people will go on and tell one what he really meant. Tell me how does anyone know unless Jesus told him or her? If Jesus told them he will tell us also right? Metaphorically Is used much the same way as hyperbole, and the people who use this tool are of course the experts who can tell one just what Jesus meant. Wow they must be really intelligent, like us simple people can’t read, and understand. Another tool often used is that part of the written Word is not talking to us. People don’t like what a letter is saying, so then if it is not speaking to them it can be ignored. They want us to believe that the bible is like our history books. Separating our spirit from our bodies, as if one is not part of the other. This tool is used to make our actions not accountable. Our spirit don’t sin so only the body is held accountable. What is so unbelievable is many people buy into that garbage. When certain people, one’s who can’t stand the truth, have no rebuttals left to block the truth, and after all the false rebuttals have been exposed as such, they revert to the last tool which is to denigrate, defame, malign, and vilify the person who has exposed the truth. After all these tools have been exposed as such, then the last tool is to denigrate, defame, malign, and vilify the person who has exposed the twisting tools.

actually, what it says in Romans 8 is that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the witness that we are the children of God. Romans 8 says nothing about living a sinless life. It says that the righteousness of the law is fullfilled within us. Furthermore, Jesus has already defeated Satan. I don't need to defeat Satan. He was defeated 2000 years ago by Jesus. I walk in the victory that Jesus won FOR me. I don't need to re-fight a war that has already been won. Yes, but that reality is not part of our experience. One thing you need to understand is that there is a difference between how the Bible speaks of "sin" in terms of our bondage to the dominion of sin (our sinful condition) and eradication of any possibilty of committing sin. "Sin" is still here on the earth. It is still part of the human experience, so it is not "abolished." Jesus came to abolish sin, but that reality will not be manifest until He returns and sets the world aright. Romans 1:1-5:11 speaks of the sins we commit. Romans 5:12-8:39 speaks to the bondage of sin we are born into by default as human beings. God works from the inside out. He has set us free from the law of sin and death, but that does not automatically mean that we never, ever sin again as human beings. We all have personality flaws, and shortcomings and you are only fooling yourself if you think you have not sinned in the last year or whatever. What John is saying when you exmaine the original Greek is that those who live in perpetual, habitual, ongoing sin have never known Jesus. He is not saying that if you sin ONE time, you have never known Jesus. You are completely misunderstanding John. As Christians we cannot receive the false teachings and sloppy theology you are peddling on this board. You truly can’t see what is done to scripture to make it fit what you want to believe? My job is just to give a word. I have given that word to you. I also give my witness that a Christian does not sin.

Grace does not keep us "sin free." The Bible does not teach that at all. Grace is for people who sin, not for people who don't sin. Grace is mercy in action. If a person is sinless, they dont' need either mercy or grace. Sorry, but you are teaching false doctrine and blaming your false doctrine on Jesus makes you the antithesis of what you claim to be. This is truth. For those who preach the false message that Christians never sin, they are not living in His reality, but one of their own making, and are in effect making themselves their own saviour. Jesus is my Lord and God, and it is only through Jesus that I have defeated Satan/sin. No one can live a sinless life unless he or she has the indwelling of God. There is no possisible that I could live without sinning unless it was through the power of God. If one still sins then that persons does not have an indwelling of God. (John 14:21-23) “Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.' Judas –not Judas Iscariot – said to him, ‘Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world? Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

Grace does not keep us "sin free." The Bible does not teach that at all. Grace is for people who sin, not for people who don't sin. Grace is mercy in action. If a person is sinless, they dont' need either mercy or grace. Sorry, but you are teaching false doctrine and blaming your false doctrine on Jesus makes you the antithesis of what you claim to be. Read Romans eight. The only way for one to live a sinless life is to have the indwelling of God/Holy Spirit. Only through the grace given to one by the Holy Spirit can one defeat Satan/sin. (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” Think of what that verse says. Jesus came to abolish sin. John tells us that if one sins he or she has never seen Jesus no does he or she know Jesus. One who knows Jesus does not sin. Anyone who knows of Jesus will still sin.

Gary, let me share some thing that I wrote to my son. You seem to be one who is troubled by the lack of spirituality/love that is shown in the Christian Church. here is some of what needs to happen to a person to become a spiritual person. There is a Spiritual walk that one needs to live, in order to be one with God. Being one with God means a person will not sin. Scripture tells us that a person who knows God does not sin. If one sins he or she only knows of God, at best. Becoming one with God (Acts 2:38-39) “You must repent, Peter answered and every one of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise that was made is for you and your children, and for all those who are far away, for all those whom the Lord our God is calling to himself.” Receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are many, but just to name a few. (1 Corinthians 12:27-30) “Now you together are Christ’s body; but each of you is a different part of it. In the Church, God has given the first place to apostles, the second to prophets, the third to teachers; after them, miracles, and after them the gift of healing; helpers, good leaders, those with many languages. Are all of them apostles, or all of them prophets, or all of them teachers? Do all speak strange languages, and all interpret them?” The Holy Spirit/Jesus will begin to teach and give one the grace to live the whole Word of God. (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.” The Holy Spirit needs to teach one, and until one becomes spiritual and knows God he or she is but an infant in Christ. Paul explains this in the following verse. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?” A spiritual person will not deliberately commit a sin. (Hebrews 10:26-27) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. (1 Corinthians 3:16-16) “Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy that person; for the temple of God, which you are, is holy” (John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.” One who is a temple of God and deliberately commits a sin is lying to God/Holy Spirit. He or she has told God that they love him. When that person deliberately commits a sin he or she is telling God: no I love Satan. If one deliberately commits sin he or she is making the temple of God unclean, it is no longer holy. It then can no longer be the temple of God. The temple of God becomes a temple of Satan. (Acts 5:1-11) “There was another man, however, called Ananias. The above verse is too long to include the whole verse. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” (1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him” (Romans 6:2-4) “How can we who died to sin yet live in it? Or are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life.” (2 Corinthians 6:15-18) “What accord has Christ with Beliar? Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said: "I will live with them and move among them, and I will be their God and they shall be my people. Therefore, come forth from them and be separate," says the Lord, "and touch nothing unclean; then I will receive you and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty." (1 Corinthians 2:13-14) “Therefore we teach, not in the way in which philosophy is taught, but in the way that the Spirit teaches us: we teach spiritual things spiritually. An unspiritual person is one who does not accept anything of the Spirit of God he sees it all as nonsense; it is beyond his understanding because it can only be understood by means of the Spirit.” To maintain life in one he or she needs spiritual food. (John 6:53-55) “How can this man give us his flesh to eat? They said. Jesus replied: ‘I tell you most solemnly, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you will not have life in you. Anyone who does eat my flesh and drink my blood has eternal life, and I shall raise him up on the last day.” (1Cornithians 3:10-18) “ According to the grace of God given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But each one must be careful how he builds upon it, for no one can lay a foundation other than the one that is there, namely, Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, the work of each will come to light, for the Day will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire (itself) will test the quality of each one's work. If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage. But if someone's work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved, but only as through fire.” (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware whom it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” I will concede that what Paul is saying is if a person who is building on the foundation of Jesus, and his or her works fail the test, then he or she will still be saved, but will go through fire. Hebrews even says there is no longer any sacrifice for such a person, there is only the dreadful prospect of judgment and the fiery wrath that devours one’s enemies. It does not say it will devour the person. My understanding of the fiery wrath has been Hell, but Jesus is telling me that is not what it is. The temple of God is destroyed, but not lost. It seems that God is going to give the corrupt builders another chance? I hope this helps, and if you have any questions you know where I am. Love you, Dad

I have had the same experiences. It doesn't make me any more blessed than any other believer. It's just one way that the Lord saw fit to bless me, personally. He is a personal God, after all. I wouldn't dream of capitalizing on a spiritual experience with my Father to lord it over others. Jesus is with every believer all day every day. He is our God and Lord. Jesus tells us all that He is God and that the Bible is His written word. That is garbage, and it is not scriptural. Is it any more GARBAGE than your experience? Are you more special to God? I will not share my pearls with you, due to your self-fixation and the fact that anything I say is garbage to you. Yet we are supposed to sit at your feet in awe of what comes out of you, O anointed one. Jesus Christ has made His home in me, and when I sin, He corrects me. His words is there to do just that--He says so. That's right---even though we sin from time to time, God in His wonderful way, still considers us righteous. why? Because the blood of Jesus IS THAT POWERFUL! According to your way of thinking, Jesus' blood lacks power. If some one is a temple of God, Satan/sin could not enter unless the owner of the temple allowed Satan in. That would be such a insult to God that: (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies.” By the way I know God is not leading you, because you admit to being a sinner. (Galatians 5:16)“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence....”. God does lead me, and he doesn't consider me a sinner at all. Rather, He calls me His child. When I fail Him, as we all do, He lets me know about it gently, and brings me back to Himself with love and forgiveness...every time. That is how His grace works in His children. A Christian will walk as Jesus walked. Ask yourself did

OneLight, I am quoting scripture to confirm my statements/post. There is no disrespect in any of my post. Then you are not reading what I am reading, but seeing only what you want to project. Allow me to share something with you that I have learned and have shared with others. I do believe that a lot of disputes begin when the poster does not step back and read what they are about to post as if it is the first time they are reading it, with no preconceived idea about what they are about to read. If the poster puts themselves in the place of another person, they learn the skill of truly seeing what others see. The results can lead to taking the time to reword their post to better explain the thoughts they really want to portray. When viewing our words, it is profitable to realize that nobody can read our minds, so our statements must be clear enough to stand on their own. At the same time, the reader needs to step back and examine what is posted without a knee-jerk reaction. Many posts have been seen as an attack when they are not, others may read into a post something that is not there, while some leave important information, focusing only on one point when the whole explanation lies within the full post. I know all about posting on forums, and Jesus tells me what to post. If you believe I have violated your rules on this forum then show me where I have. Don’t insinuate that I have made some rule infractions. By the way just responding to your signature if that is allowed. Have you read the following verse? It is not our works that earn us the kingdom of heaven. It is allowing the grace of God to keep us righteous, and sin free. (Galations 5:13-26)”For you were called for freedom, brothers. But do not use this freedom as an opportunity for the flesh; rather, serve one another through love. For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you go on biting and devouring one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another. I say, then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh. For the flesh has desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you may not do what you want. But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ [Jesus] have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also follow the Spirit. Let us not be conceited, provoking one another, envious of one another.”

OneLight, I am quoting scripture to confirm my statements/post. There is no disrespect in any of my post.

That is a lie of Satan. So John lied, and scripture is not truthful is that what you are saying? A Christian does not sin. Is a Christian of Satan? John says a sinner is of the devil. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” If some one is a temple of God, Satan/sin could not enter unless the owner of the temple allowed Satan in. That would be such a insult to God that:

I have had the same experiences. It doesn't make me any more blessed than any other believer. It's just one way that the Lord saw fit to bless me, personally. He is a personal God, after all. I wouldn't dream of capitalizing on a spiritual experience with my Father to lord it over others. Jesus is with every believer all day every day. He is our God and Lord. Jesus tells us all that He is God and that the Bible is His written word. That is garbage, and it is not scriptural. Is it any more GARBAGE than your experience? Are you more special to God? I will not share my pearls with you, due to your self-fixation and the fact that anything I say is garbage to you. Yet we are supposed to sit at your feet in awe of what comes out of you, O anointed one. Jesus Christ has made His home in me, and when I sin, He corrects me. His words is there to do just that--He says so. That's right---even though we sin from time to time, God in His wonderful way, still considers us righteous. why? Because the blood of Jesus IS THAT POWERFUL! According to your way of thinking, Jesus' blood lacks power. If some one is a temple of God, Satan/sin could not enter unless the owner of the temple allowed Satan in. That would be such a insult to God that: (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies.” By the way I know God is not leading you, because you admit to being a sinner. (Galatians 5:16)“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence....”.

No, it is NOT GARBAGE. Many times you have been told that God is saying that those who continue to habitually walk in sin as they did before they encountered Christ are in danger. People who have experienced a transformation upon their acceptance of the free gift of salvation have the Holy Spirit living in them to help them navigate their new walk in life. We all will sin occasionally, but not habitually, because we will be living out of a new paradigm, a new mind, and walking in the grace of God. Indwelling Holy Spirit is our teacher and the One who speaks to us gently about where we have gone wrong and what we need to do to correct ourselves. You are preaching a false message that is harmful. (Acts 5:1-11) “There was another man, however, called Ananias. He and his wife, Sapphira, agreed to sell a property; but with his wife’s connivance he kept back part of the proceeds, and brought the rest and presented it to the apostles. Ananias, Peter said ‘now can Satan have so possessed you that you should lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the money from the land? While you still owned the land, wasn’t it yours to keep, and after you had sold it wasn’t the money yours to do with as you liked? What put this scheme into your mind? It is not to men that you have lied, but to God. When he heard this Ananias fell down dead. This made a profound impression on everyone present. The younger men got up, wrapped the body in a sheet, carried it out and buried it. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had taken place. Peter challenged her, ‘Tell me was this the price you sold the land for? ‘Yes,’ she said ‘that was the price.’ Peter then said, ‘So you and your husband have agreed to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test! What made you do it? You hear those footsteps? They have just been to bury your husband; they will carry you out, too.’ Instantly she dropped dead at his feet. When the young men came in they found she was dead, and they carried her out and buried her by the side of her husband. This made a profound impression on the whole Church and on all who heard it.” We don't see that happening, do we? Your example is not an appropriate response. There is no evidence that Ananias and Sapphira were Spirit-filled believers. God did something extraordinary, there, and judged those two similarly to how He would judge during the Old Covenant. Does God strike dead every believer who sins? If one sins he or she are not of God, and are not Christian. People who sin will make the written Word of God read is ways that allow them to be righteous no matter how evil they are. (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.”

I have had the same experiences. It doesn't make me any more blessed than any other believer. It's just one way that the Lord saw fit to bless me, personally. He is a personal God, after all. I wouldn't dream of capitalizing on a spiritual experience with my Father to lord it over others. Jesus is with every believer all day every day. He is our God and Lord. Jesus tells us all that He is God and that the Bible is His written word. That is garbage, and it is not scriptural. Tell me something how do you expierance Jesus? What has Jesus personally ever said to you? Has Jesus taught you any scripture, and if so share what he taught you? Do you walk in any of the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Has God made his home in you, and if so how do you know? Remember God would never live in the same house as Satan. When one deliberately sins he or she are inviting Satan into them. (John 14:21-23) “Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me; and whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I shall love him and reveal myself to him.' Judas –not Judas Iscariot – said to him, ‘Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world? Jesus replied: Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.” A temple of God is what a Christian is, and there is no sin in God’s temple.

No, it is NOT GARBAGE. Many times you have been told that God is saying that those who continue to habitually walk in sin as they did before they encountered Christ are in danger. People who have experienced a transformation upon their acceptance of the free gift of salvation have the Holy Spirit living in them to help them navigate their new walk in life. We all will sin occasionally, but not habitually, because we will be living out of a new paradigm, a new mind, and walking in the grace of God. Indwelling Holy Spirit is our teacher and the One who speaks to us gently about where we have gone wrong and what we need to do to correct ourselves. You are preaching a false message that is harmful. (Acts 5:1-11) “There was another man, however, called Ananias. He and his wife, Sapphira, agreed to sell a property; but with his wife’s connivance he kept back part of the proceeds, and brought the rest and presented it to the apostles. Ananias, Peter said ‘now can Satan have so possessed you that you should lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the money from the land? While you still owned the land, wasn’t it yours to keep, and after you had sold it wasn’t the money yours to do with as you liked? What put this scheme into your mind? It is not to men that you have lied, but to God. When he heard this Ananias fell down dead. This made a profound impression on everyone present. The younger men got up, wrapped the body in a sheet, carried it out and buried it. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had taken place. Peter challenged her, ‘Tell me was this the price you sold the land for? ‘Yes,’ she said ‘that was the price.’ Peter then said, ‘So you and your husband have agreed to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test! What made you do it? You hear those footsteps? They have just been to bury your husband; they will carry you out, too.’ Instantly she dropped dead at his feet. When the young men came in they found she was dead, and they carried her out and buried her by the side of her husband. This made a profound impression on the whole Church and on all who heard it.”

Sign We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:19-21 Posts Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39 Amen~! This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 5-10 No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.” So, you never sin, do you? No I do not sin. What is so sad is that saying what I just said makes people mock me. The Christian faith has gotten so corrupt that a spiritual person is made fun of. People no longer even know what it means for one to be spiritual. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?” This is disingenuous--and therefore a sin. You mock the grace of God when you claim that we cannot ever sin. God knows we do and the bible teaches us what to do when we sin. We do not fall from grace we sin, or lose our salvation, which is precisely what you are here to try to teach. What a lot of garbage. Read the following verses. (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” (Romans 6: 1-2) “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? (Romans 6:11) “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus”

I truly hope my future post will be a blessing. Most of what Jesus has me share is a tough message for most people. What Jesus has all of us share is the truth. It is tough for people who reject Him. That is true, but I am not Jesus, and the only way one can know if what I share is from Jesus; is for him or her to ask Jesus personally. Most people are not into asking Jesus to teach him or her personally. There is the rub in accepting what I share. Most people believe what man has taught them about God. I know from God that man has it wrong. We, who follow Christ, have His Holy Spirit, who teaches us all truth. If they are truly His, they listen to what the Spirit says. May I ask if you consider yourself a Prophet? I don’t consider myself a prophet; Jesus told me I am a prophet. Jesus has called me by name and asked me to follow him. Jesus personally told me he would teach me about him. The following verse tells us that those who are Jesus’ own will be called out by name, and they will follow him. I have a very close relationship with Jesus, and he guides everything I do. (John 10:1-5)"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." The following verse tells us that the Holy Spirit will teach one. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one, and yet somehow separate. Both the Holy Spirit/Jesus personally are teaching me. Jesus teaches me as if he were my Father. The Holy Spirit uses many different ways to teach and guide me. (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.” I can't help be concerned when I here the words in bold come from anyone. His Spirit gives gifts as He wills, which I agree with, but you sound like you are claiming some special anointment outside of that of 1 Corinthians 12. Will you explain more what you mean? The bold format was not by my design. I have had Jesus come to me and call me by name. I have heard Jesus audibly and have seen Jesus. Jesus is with me all day long, and every day. He is my God, and my Lord. Jesus has told me he is God, and the bible is his written Word.

Sign We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:19-21 Posts Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39 Amen~! This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 5-10 No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.” Self-righteousness is not of the Lord. The only time we will be without sin is when we are with Him. Until then, as we read all through scripture, we are in a spiritual battle with the flesh, which is sinful. It is only when we are in the Lord that we are not in the flesh, but man can not always be in the Lord, for no man seeks God 100% of the time. Only Christ was without sin. (Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”

Sign We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:19-21 Posts Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39 Amen~! This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 5-10 No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.” So, you never sin, do you? No I do not sin. What is so sad is that saying what I just said makes people mock me. The Christian faith has gotten so corrupt that a spiritual person is made fun of. People no longer even know what it means for one to be spiritual. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”