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Surely, the Lord wouldn't want me to be kept in the dark about your revelation! I am glad of that! I have yet to see proof of that. That is a lie all to itself. Sinning is something that we will do occasionally, and for that we have a continuous flow of God's grace pouring all over us. It doesn't give us license to sin, as Paul has said, but it is our assurance in Christ that nothing can separate us from Christ. There is NO CONDEMNATION IN THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST. So, you must cease bringing condemnation on the brethren here at Worthy. Those who do this are not of God, but are serving some other agenda that is ungodly. Romans 8 Life in the Spirit 8 So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. 2 And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death. 3 The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins. 4 He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit. 5 Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit. 6 So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace. 7 For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will. 8 That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God. 9 But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.) 10 And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you life because you have been made right with God. 11 The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. 12 Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. 13 For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live. 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. God knows who are His own, and He is familiar with each one's particular struggles. I am thankful to God for His mercy and grace poured liberally out over me. I am grateful that it is by Jesus' blood I am saved and saved forever, justified and in right standing with the Father, and that there is nothing I can do that can negate what His blood has done for me. It is a forever flowing spring of forgiveness and grace and healing for me. A Christian is dead to sin, and will not sin. (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” You can believe what ever makes you feel righteous, but if one is a temple of God, Satan/sin will never enter that temple. God will protect his home. My witness is that I have not sinned for over thirty years. Jesus pronounced me clean and has kept me clean for all those years. For about the last year this is the word Jesus has had me share over and over again. I had Jesus come into my living room and sit next to me, and had me open the bible to where it explains that Christians are dead to sin. Jesus also explained to me how it was that a Christian could live without sinning ever again. The Early Christian under stood what I am sharing. The following verse tells the story best. (Acts 5:1-11) The Fraud of Ananias and Sapphira
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So, why did you mention having this revelation if you were not supposed to reveal it? Should you not have rather just given this word you were supposed to give and leave it at that? So you want to interpret what Jesus said to me? People interpret the written Word of God, and get it wrong also. Jesus by telling me to give a word and leave was reviling to me what sort of ministry I had. Jesus was letting me know I would not be a pastor of a church talking to the same people over and over again. Jesus tells me what words to give, and how to give those words. People who say they have been walking in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and still deliberately commit sin are of the devil, and are lying. The only way one can love God is to hear his Word and live his Word. Sinning is not living God’s Word, and one is not being led by Jesus/Holy Spirit/God if one still sins. (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.”
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Wow! You can know that you have been doing what you do longer then what I have been doing what I do? (1 John 3:3) “Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.” (1John 2:6) “Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.” Jesus has given me the guidance and grace to walk as he walked, and I have been doing for forty years, ever sense I was thirty-eight years old. Like you are an expert, and don’t know that a Christian is dead to sin? A Christian does not sin? (Romans 6: 1-2) “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? (Romans 6:11) “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus” If you don’t live the whole Word of God, and do not sin you are at best an infant in Christ. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”
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No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.”
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(1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” (Matthew 7:6) “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Jesus told me not to reveal the Anti-Christ to you all. My job is to bring a word. The word I bring to this forum is that a Christian does not sin. If one sins he or she is not of God, but of the devil. One could never be a prophet of God and be a sinner also. A prophet is a temple of God, and there is no sin in God’s temple. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”
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Jesus did not reveal everything to all. He chose what to reveal to whom. Remember that is why he used parables? Jesus told me not to reveal the Anti-Christ to you all.
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Understood, believe. Unfortunately, thankful comes across as being more interested in exalting himself and his vision rather than Jesus . Thus the disagreement. Of course Satan just love those people who say negative words about people who share what God has for them to share. Satan will use anything to keep people from sharing about God, in hopes that it will keep the timid people, and those who care about what other think of them quite. Remember if you deliberately sin you are of the devil. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” Satan loves to trick people who are new to the faith into believing they have a special message for God, which turns out to be a deception to the Body of Christ. Those who hear that message and are strong in the Lord are not fooled by it, and obey God by coming against the lie. That is what is happening here. You have been opposed by Christians who know the word, but your deception remains. Allowing oneself to be deceived is a tragedy when along with it comes a stiff neck. That is an abominable state, that falls under the heading of sin, also. When you paint yourself in a corner and do not allow yourself to be corrected or taught by other believers who know the truth, you resort to relying on pride. Pride is the first sin committed by Satan himself! You share your opinion so much, but that is all it is just your opinion. No scripture, nothing to confirm what you believe. Remember if one sin he or she is of the devil. The devil has his opinion and many people spew out his opinion.
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Understood, believe. Unfortunately, thankful comes across as being more interested in exalting himself and his vision rather than Jesus . Thus the disagreement. Of course Satan just love those people who say negative words about people who share what God has for them to share. Satan will use anything to keep people from sharing about God, in hopes that it will keep the timid people, and those who care about what other think of them quite. Remember if you deliberately sin you are of the devil. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”
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Jesus told me to give a word, and he tells me what word to give. At times I have been at a total loss as to what to say. I pray about that, and wait for God to give me the words. I have always been blessed with what to say.
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This is not true, either. Satan can present himself as an angel of light, with beautiful words and nice-sounding things that resonate truth but are foul, filthy lies inside. Before one knows it, one is deeply entangled in spiritual darkness, once thought of as light. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve. You did not read what I have posted. Satan can do anything he would like, but he cannot fool God. A spiritual Christian has the indwelling of God. God protects a spiritual Christian from Satan. God will always let one of his own know if Satan even gets near him or her. A Christian will have discernment of any evil spirit.
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You see you have made God a respecter of persons by telling you personally in a subjective manner ... so I am concerned that fact that God Says He 'IS' not! You see it is quite clear since the beginning of His Canon of Scripture -God Spoke to men and they wrote it down so that all may find access to Him without respect of persons Prov 28:21 21 To show partiality is not good, because for a piece of bread a man will transgress. NKJV 2 Chron 19:7 7 Now therefore, let the fear of the Lord be upon you; take care and do it, for there is no iniquity with the Lord our God, no partiality, nor taking of bribes." NKJV Ps 119:15-16 15 I will meditate on Your precepts, and contemplate Your ways. 16 I will delight myself in Your statutes; I will not forget Your word. NKJV Rom 2:10-11 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God. NKJV Eph 6:9 9 And you, masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that your own Master also is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him. NKJV Col 3:24-25 25 But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. NKJV James 2:3-4 3 and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, "You sit here in a good place," and say to the poor man, "You stand there," or, "Sit here at my footstool," 4 have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? NKJV James 2:9 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. NKJV 1 Peter 1:17-18 17 And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; NKJV Clearly by these verses God is not going to do for one that he would not do for another based on anything of themselves... and the only way to provide for all the equality of no respect is to Write so the source is available to all who seek Him... this is for me the greatest tenet against personal revelation of God on a closed Canon of Writing and the ultimate understanding of Calvinism by their form of election for this is written John 6:37-40 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." NKJV God tells us to try the S/spirits to determine from the only objective source we have 'His Word' and in this 1 John 4:1-6 4 4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. NKJV We know the truth... Love, Steven Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. I tell you that Jesus Christ is God, and he came in the flesh, lived, died on a cross for us, and rose from the dead. I know he is God, because he personally told me he is God. Now Scripture says those who sin is of the devil; that fact will tell one who is of God or not. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”
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God's prophets never hid what God told them. What was the word you were to give and what community grew out of it? Did you obey Jesus? How do we know you are telling us words of Jesus and not Satan? Why did he give you the name of the antichrist when his word says the antichrist would be revealed during the tribulations? Do you believe we are living in the tribulations? If so what makes you think that? I share what Jesus tells me to share. There are no expectations on my part that people will or should believe me. The Holy Spirit once told me to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong. Why Jesus wants me to share is not something I need to know. By the way Jesus talks to me all the time. When he told me that a time was coming soon when man would suffer more then he ever has, I was driving and old car with my wife, three babies, and a dog. We were looking for a place to put up a tent that was our home at the time. I am a prophet, but my public ministry is yet to come. My job for now is just to give a word, and Jesus wants me to do so via the internet. I spent about three years with an entity like that. telling me stuff that was so remarkable I just knew it was God himself. Secrets that no one should know..... until one night that it tried to get me to kill someone...... it was only then that I realized that the thing I had been interfacing with was not from God. From perosnal experience I would caution you to be very very careful with this entity you are hearing from...... and if you have done any studies at all about Satan and his following, you need to pray over that information to keep it from your life. edited to add that we need to pray for this person for it is possible that he/she is in great spiritual danger and from my personal experieices if he's yielding to this thing speaking to him, he might be a danger to the people around him. That is sad you allowed yourself to be fooled for so long. The fruits of being led by God are all good. One will learn to not sin, to live the whole Word of God, and to love, which is living God’s Word. Jesus said his people would be called out by name and they would follow no other. Jesus voice brings peace, and Satan’s voice brings evil feelings. (John 10:1-5)"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."
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Jesus told us all that over 2000 years ago. It's in the BIBLE. Really? Where is that? I don't believe that is the truth. People who still deliberately commit sin are of the devil and will never believe the truth. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”
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God's prophets never hid what God told them. What was the word you were to give and what community grew out of it? Did you obey Jesus? How do we know you are telling us words of Jesus and not Satan? Why did he give you the name of the antichrist when his word says the antichrist would be revealed during the tribulations? Do you believe we are living in the tribulations? If so what makes you think that? I share what Jesus tells me to share. There are no expectations on my part that people will or should believe me. The Holy Spirit once told me to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong. Why Jesus wants me to share is not something I need to know. By the way Jesus talks to me all the time. When he told me that a time was coming soon when man would suffer more then he ever has, I was driving and old car with my wife, three babies, and a dog. We were looking for a place to put up a tent that was our home at the time. I am a prophet, but my public ministry is yet to come. My job for now is just to give a word, and Jesus wants me to do so via the internet.
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He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
Yes, but this passage occurs in a context about the end times. Peter was talking about how some people had twisted the words of Paul regarding matters pertaining to the end of age. This is not about Paul's epistles in general, but only about the eschatological portions of his letters. The problem with your theology is that it is entirely based on human performance. According to you, if a person commits a single sin, they are saved. You have a works based system wherein salvation is tied to peformance. It is also clear that you do not understand the role that grace plays. Grace forgives inspite of flaws. Let me ask you this... What would you do if your car nsurance company only insured you when you didn't have an car accident? What if you caused a slight fender bender and your insurace company refused to pay and revoked your policy?? What good was the insurance if it isn't there to help you when you need it? Grace isnt' for the perfect flawless people. Grace is there to pick you up when you sin. Note the following; My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. (1Jn 2:1) According to this verse, the ideal situation is that we do not sin, but IF we do, we have an advocate. It doesn't say that if we sin, we are no longer saved. You do not know God and know nothing about His mercy or His grace. Your teachings are heretical to their core, as you deny basic tenets of Scritpure pertaining to God's essential character. The Church did not accept your lack of work theology. It only gained any acceptance during the Reformation. You want to believe Jesus allowed his Church to go hundreds of years with false teaching? James tried to set straight some other people who miss read Paul’s letters. Peter warned people about such misunderstandings also. (1 Peter 1: 14-19) “Like obedient children, do not act in compliance with the desires of your former ignorance but, as he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct, for it is written, "Be holy because I (am) holy." Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning, realizing that you were ransomed from your futile conduct, handed on by your ancestors, not with perishable things like silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ as of a spotless unblemished lamb”. -
He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
You believe that people are flawed in their understanding. That is nothing more than a personal opinion from you, and so far, a totally bogus one.You are not the final word on anything and no one has to accept your word or your hermeneutics at face value. When you insult and belittle people, you are sinning, so there is nothing perfect about you. You agreed to certain rules when you joined here, and I will repeat: You will obey them or there will be consequences. If we did not believe each other to have a flawed understanding of God’s Word, there would be no discussion. Because we don’t see eye to eye is not insulting. I have been told that what I say is nasty am I being insulted? -
He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
Thankful, you might have missed this question that was asked you in response to your comments about metaphors: What do you think, Thankful??? Was Jesus telling us to mutilate our bodies by literally cutting off our hand if we sin? Jesus was telling us just how important it is not to sin. Yes if there was the slightest chance that my eye would cause me to sin, and not be able to enter the kingdom of God, I would have my eye taken out. Now Jesus gave us his Holy Spirit/grace so we could make sure that Satan/sin could never have its way with us. You didn't answer the question. I did not ask you if you would take your eye out I asked you if Jesus' remarks about cutting off your hand meant that Jesus in fact expects us to mutilate ourselves in that way if we sin. In other words, are we sinning today by not cutting off our hands if we sin?? Was Jesus' command meant to promote self mutiliation or was that manner of speaking meant to communicate a bigger point? Did I ever say Jesus did not use hyperbole to make a point? Read what I said. It does not take a brain surgeon to understand to know when Jesus did use hyperbole. People try to twist the bible by saying Jesus was using hyperbole when he was not. Actually Jesus was using metaphorical language, not hyperbole, but whatever. The point is that when other people point out the flaws in your bizarre theoogy, you complain that they are twisting God's word with things like the Greek language or metaphors or hyperbole. Yet what I see is a selective approach to that. The original Greek doesn't support a lot of the claims you are making. You are taking a face-value hyper-literal approach to the text (in a very selective way) and you are ignoring things like Greek, hyper-bole, metaphorcal language when they don't work in your favor, but are wiling to accept them when it comes to a text that you can't justify your wrong-headed apporach to Scripture. Tell me this... When Paul harbored unforgiveness toward John Mark was that a sin? Did that sin prove that Paul did not belong to Jesus? Sinners need to believe everyone sins; this is their excuse for his or her failures to live God’s Word. Making Paul and Peter’s actions as sins is just an escape mechanism for taking responsibility for one’s actions. Sin is evil, and sinners are evil/are of the devil. One time Jesus had me tell a large room filled with pastors of many different denominations that they did not love Jesus. Most of these Pastors knew that I was a prophet. These ministers where praying saying how much they loved Jesus. Jesus told me no they did not love him. Jesus then gave me scripture to read to them. These verses explained to them; that to love God one needs to live his Word. (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” Peter tells us that one needs to be holy. That takes love and love is work. (1 Peter 1: 14-19) “Like obedient children, do not act in compliance with the desires of your former ignorance but, as he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct, for it is written, "Be holy because I (am) holy." Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning, realizing that you were ransomed from your futile conduct, handed on by your ancestors, not with perishable things like silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ as of a spotless unblemished lamb”. -
He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
Insulting people will not get you anywhere, and you will either cease doing it, or there will be repercussions. Read the TOS you agreed to when you joined here and abide by it, or don't post. What people am I insulting? How am I insulting, is it by telling the truth? -
He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
Jesus wasn't telling us to be perfect as you think perfect is. Consider the original language: Mat 5:48 Be2071 ye5210 therefore3767 perfect,5046 even as5618 your5216 Father3962 which3588 is in1722 heaven3772 is2076 perfect.5046 G5046 τέλειος teleios tel'-i-os From G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588) completeness: - of full age, man, perfect. Jesus is asking us to come to completeness in Him, to grow into maturity. It's a process and there are many failures along the way, in which He is ready, willing and able to help us! Your false understanding and teaching only puts heavy burdens and constraints on immature believers---something that Jesus never does. You all don’t even realize how much of scripture you need to discard, as not addressing us, in order to believe the lies taught to you by man/devil. Peter warned people about misreading Paul. (2 Peter 3:15-16) “Think of our Lord’s patience as your opportunity to be saved: our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that is his special gift. He always writes like this when he deals with this sort of subject, and this makes some points in his letter hard to understand; these are the points that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture a fatal thing for them to do.” (1 Peter 1: 14-19) “Like obedient children, do not act in compliance with the desires of your former ignorance but, as he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct, for it is written, "Be holy because I (am) holy." Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning, realizing that you were ransomed from your futile conduct, handed on by your ancestors, not with perishable things like silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ as of a spotless unblemished lamb”. -
He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
Love A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. John 13:34 And Truth But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:7-10 It Should Be Told As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Romans 3:10-11 ~ Believe For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 Believe Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:20-28 And Be Blessed Beloved But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:4-7 Love, Joe No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.” -
1 John 3:4-10 4 Everyone who sins is breaking God’s law, for all sin is contrary to the law of God. 5 And you know that Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in him. 6 Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin. But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is. 7 Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you about this: When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. 8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows that they belong to the devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. 10 So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God. Those who know Christ do not practice sin habitually. That is what this means. 1 John 1:7-10 7But if we live in the light in the same way that God is in the light, we have a relationship with each other. And the blood of his Son Jesus cleanses us from every sin. 8If we say, “We aren’t sinful” we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9God is faithful and reliable. If we confess our sins, he forgives them and cleanses us from everything we’ve done wrong. 10If we say, “We have never sinned,” we turn God into a liar and his Word is not in us. No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Well, it isn't flawed. I think that after fifty years of reading and studying God's word, and walking with Jesus, He would have pointed any flaws out to me by now. YOU read it and study the basic language of it all---about the Greek, about tenses and about verbs and about how they denote continuous action. Study and then come back and discuss. Confess your sins, he says. If you lie and say you do not sin, then you are not confessing them are you? When we repent of our sin, we are considered pure and righteous by God, because he comes to live in our spirit, making it pure and undefiled and filled with every spiritual blessing. That never changes. You misinterpret scripture to suit your own feeble understanding of the forgiveness and grace of God. You think we negate God's grace if we sin, and make out that Jesus' blood is ineffective. That is not true. As Christians we are no longer considered sinners, nor do we walk in sinful lifestyles any more, but we still falter along the journey with our Shepherd. Those who say they are believers and then turn around and forsake Christ and their salvation have abandoned their faith and are considered reprobates. Thais is what the scriptures you are constantly leaning on are teaching. I know Calvin, Luther and the rest of the Reformation theologians came up with those lies and people wanting to feel righteous with out any relationship with God, flocked to their spiritual death. People did not see that God would not have taken hundreds of years to explain that they no longer needed to obey him.
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Jesus told me over thirty years ago that a time was coming soon when man would suffer more then he has ever suffered. I was to give a word and leave. Out of that word a community would grow, he wanted a place of safety for his people. Three years ago Jesus told me who the Anti Christ is, but that is not for discussion at this time. I did ask Jesus if the person who he said was the Anti Christ was the Anti Christ, meaning the last time Anti Christ mentioned in scripture, and Jesus told me yes.
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I will quote you scripture that tells you that what you believe is wrong. Can you quote scripture that says you are right? (1 John 3: 5 - 6) “ Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.” (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”
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1 John 3:4-10 4 Everyone who sins is breaking God’s law, for all sin is contrary to the law of God. 5 And you know that Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in him. 6 Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin. But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is. 7 Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you about this: When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. 8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows that they belong to the devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. 10 So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God. Those who know Christ do not practice sin habitually. That is what this means. 1 John 1:7-10 7But if we live in the light in the same way that God is in the light, we have a relationship with each other. And the blood of his Son Jesus cleanses us from every sin. 8If we say, “We aren’t sinful” we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9God is faithful and reliable. If we confess our sins, he forgives them and cleanses us from everything we’ve done wrong. 10If we say, “We have never sinned,” we turn God into a liar and his Word is not in us. No it is just your understanding of the bible that is flawed. Read this, you need to see John was saying: “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar.” Can’t you see John was telling people everyone has sinned, and one would be a liar if he said they had not? John was not telling people who no longer sinned that they were liars by admitting they no longer sinned. (1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.” You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars. If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless? Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless? John later says: (1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin: anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work” John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin. Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person. (Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.”
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He who does what is sinful is of the devil.
Thankful x10 replied to Thankful x10's topic in Theology
You don’t see it a sin not to give? If you see some one in need and have what that person needs and don’t give to that person, is it not a sin? The lack of love is sin. The law will judge people who are not living by the Spirit. (Galations 5:13-26)”For you were called for freedom, brothers. But do not use this freedom as an opportunity for the flesh; rather, serve one another through love. For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you go on biting and devouring one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another. I say, then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh. For the flesh has desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you may not do what you want. But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ [Jesus] have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also follow the Spirit. Let us not be conceited, provoking one another, envious of one another.”