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I was just using the Pope for an example. I personally think that the pope will be the False Prophet. He fits it so well. The Anti-Christ is going to be someone who we least expect and may even like at first, yes, even us Christians. He's going to be VERY good at what he does. Not, saying we are blind, but saying Lucifer is good at decieving and lying.

Hey Douggg, thanks for sharing your thoughts. It is very common in scripture for singular context to sometimes refer to a body of people. This is especially true for the church, which is referred to as the "body" the "bride" the "lady", etc. In the book of Daniel a single statue is used to represent several nations. I don't believe there is a contrast in those scriptures that refers to many antichrists and one antichrist, I believe John is saying "You heard that antichrist was supposed to come, I'm telling you he's here now!" In Revelation, especially, the language is spiritual and figurative. A little horn can refer to many people, just as, again, back in Daniel, horns on a beast are used to refer to nations. The Antichrist is one person, the "another" that Jesus told Nicodemus that they the Jews would unfortunately temporarily embrace as "the" messiah. "the" messiah, in context of its true meaning means the special King of Israel, son of David, anointed that God promised to send to lead Israel and the world into what we would call the messianic age of peace and harmony. The Anti-messiah, or Antichrist, is the person who the Jews will embrace as their king instead of Jesus, who they rejected, as Jesus told Nicodemus they would. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Why would you think the little horn is anything but one person? The Antichrist goes through 4 stages of his career (for lack of a better word). His rise, then his fall. 1. the little horn politician of Daniel 7 and 8 2. the prince who shall come, illicit perceived King of Israel, son of David, anointed (messiah) of Daniel 9. 3. the revealed man of sin, son of perdition, of 2Thessalonians2 4. the antichrist-beast of Revelation. What if he is not just one person? This is just an idea and something I think is possible. What if he's of many people. Like say the Pope for example. What if he is many Popes?

I would like to know where everything, like the Statue of Mary and the different paintings, statues all started from. Is it all Greek or something else. What are the true meaning of everything, all the way down to the Pope's clothing.

Just everything about Rome. Ancient Rome, Present day. Also the Church. The Popes..... The Pagan worship. etc etc

Oh, and I also would love to get a free bible. A New King James, I won't read anything else. I have one but I would like one for studying and marking in. I don't want to mark my everyday bible.

What are good videos, websites, free books, blogs, etc to use for studying on Rome and the Papacy? I started a new thread for this because I want to post what I learn and I want to discuss all this. I've always thought that America is Mystery Babylon and there is a good chance that the Anti-Christ could rise from America. I still think it is possible but I have opened my mind a little more about Rome being Mystery Babylon and possibly the Pope being the Anti-Christ. I've never actually tried to learn anything about Rome, and I think I need to.

I don't believe that Hitler was a sign from God. I think he was the culmination in a long list of attempts to destroy the Jewish bloodline necessary to fulfill prophecy. Hitler and the Nazis were simply Satan's final last attempt at wiping out the Jews because Satan knew that the new nation of Israel was about to be created. If you think about it nearly every Jew in the World lived in Europe, the U.S.A. or the Middle East. Hitler was well on the way to exterminating all European Jewry, and he had the Middle East sewn up due to his deal with Amin al-Husseini. All that was left was the U.S.A. Nobody knows why Hitler declared war on the U.S. despite his treaty with Japan. He didn't have to. The U.S.A. was an uninvadeable country and to declare war on such a country made no sense, but maybe Satan was whispering in Hitler's ear. Hitler was mainly after power. He was to bring in the day the Jews would start going back home to Israel. I believe that the Holocaust was mentioned in bible prophecy. And all I was trying to say is that God allowed him here to fulfill that prophecy and to show us what the Anti-Christ will be like. And the different signs to watch for.

I believe the first white horse is the Anti-Christ. The second white horse is Jesus. The Anti-Christ will come in like Jesus copying him in every way.. Revelation 6 New King James Version (NKJV) First Seal: The Conqueror 6 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals;[a]and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. Second Seal: Conflict on Earth 3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come and see.”[b] 4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword. Third Seal: Scarcity on Earth 5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart[c] of wheat for a denarius,[d] and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.” Fourth Seal: Widespread Death on Earth 7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

Oh forgot about the sink holes across the world. Also, the 4 blood moons that are suppose to be coming up (I don't speak of these as a fact, since its in the near future but it is something to watch for) The first one is suppose to be on April 14th and if it happens and something dramatic happens afterward (like the 6 day war in Israel) I will never shut up about it, just to let yawl know lol Supposedly the Six day war happened right after a blood moon. So, it does seem like a sign from God. 6 days of war and the 7th, it ended and they were able to "rest".. huuum??

I just think that we are seeing a lot of changes and signs of the end times. I think that we are very close to the end. And if we are then the Anti-Christ is here, in the world somewhere. There are mass fish (sea life) die offs. Weird weather patterns. strange lights in the sky. Strange sounds and booms coming from nowhere. A lot of Meteors being seen all of the world. 2013 was named the year of the comet. The Illuminati (Satan) has gained control over the music industry and the government and have a huge influence on the whole world. Their all seeing eye and pyramid is everywhere, now. Its on shirts, pants, and is now a popular hand signal. Just like the stupid middle finger and the devil horns. The devil horns aren't even recognized for its true meaning anymore, its just a hand signal now.

I agree i think its either the pope or obama however although the pope seems very likely there is one thing he doesnt have that obama does- obama care. they passed the bill without even reading it but i read some of it. the chip that you can buy and sell goes on the right hand or forehead [ sound familer?] and its voulanary right now but in the bill later its going to be mandatory or else beheaded- ya it actually says that. the bible said the mark would bear his name the chip comes from from obamacare- OBAMAcare. also in the bill is the mass production of fema camps, now i have seen them with my own eyes they look like prison with its surrounding walls having spikes pointed inward. they said these things were to keep ppl save but hese things are made t keep ppl in not out. i understand what you mean about the feeling in your gut the pope and obama give me a bad feeling inside I don't know how true it is, I haven't done my research on it yet. But I heard that the chip is suppose to be forced I think in the year 2016, I could be wrong on the year, I've also heard that hospitals have started to chip newborns, and are trying to chip school kids... (I have a 5 year old daughter whose going to be going to school next year, I also don't have custody of her at the moment, so I am very scared for her, because I don't have a say) I've also heard (leaked info) that Obama is going to try to declare Marshal law in 6 weeks. (I guess we will find out in 6 weeks if it happens) Plus my opinion on the gun control in Connecticut is a test run to see how people react, something big needs to happen if Obama is going to declare Marshal Law, which could be our guns being taken from us. I know people in my state and town will go completely nuts. And I'm sure there will be riots bad enough to declare Marshal Law. A lot of people who I talk to about Obama being the Anti-Christ just looks at me like I'm stupid, and says that he isn't a loved man. True, but the people who do love him, speak of him like he is God, and a savior.

Didn't Hitler have a wife at some point, but supposedly was homosexual?

Donibm, OakWood... True, the Anti-Christ could be homosexual, and will not have the desire for women. BUT, what if he uses a woman and maybe children for a cover up. It looks "good" to society.

Thank you Golddust, I'm going to check that out

Just to let you all know. I have found my way. Yes, the depression lingers, it will always be there. But its no longer everyday. I have never felt loved, wanted or needed in my whole life. I was rejected everywhere I went, school and at home. But God gave me 3 little girls, who all look exactly like me (and act like me, lol) god, gave me a reason to live, He gave me something to love, and little mini me's to want and need me. Children really are a gift from God. Having my girls wasn't done the right way, but he still gave them to me. I could have been one of those girls who can't have kids. So, I defiantly feel blessed. Thank you for all your concerns and thank you for caring and if I need some one to talk too I will defiantly think of you. Thank you. I'll probably have trouble finding the right church but I am the church (also my kids), God is my preacher and teacher, and hopefully someday I will find a group of believers to be a good influence and friends to me, but I think God will give them to me if its meant to be.

The song by Casting Crowns, Does Anybody Hear Her, is exactly like me. I love this song..

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I think they wanted to create their own "race." Like I said before, Satan wants to be God, so he's going to do everything in his power to copy God.

I think that's important to keep our eyes open to the evil that's working around us. Its important to know your enemy. Specially when their are so many people out there who are so blind. I keep my eyes open, not only for me, but my kids, who's generation is going to be even worse, and harder to see the truth and evil.

I have heard it is written differently than the rest of the bible, but the rest of the bible doesn't tell about Nephilum, unless genesis really does. But we really don't know that as a fact. So yea its different. But I Like that. I like that it tells of something incredible. Something that could still be around today, but just can't see them, or pick them out. Because Satan and his angels have been around since the beginning of time. They are smart, and have learned how to be like us, and how to blend in. They have learned how to brainwash, and how to itch there way in. They are very good at what they do. I think its important to know your enemy, who youre dealing with. How he works, specially in this modern age. He wants to be God. So he's going to work like God. God is everywhere, so he has to be everywhere. He cannot create something out of thin air, like God, so he works through us. He works through TV, music, etc. I don't want to be blind like most people in society. So, I HAVE to keep up with Satan and how he works, and where he is living (like the TV)

The problem I have finding a group of believers is that everyone is so judgeful, and every time I try going to church, I don't feel like I'm in the right place.

yes, I always have. I just fell when I was a teen, and just now getting up

The thing is. I was saved when I was 14. After my mom left the church, I could no longer go. Soon after, I fell into a deep depression, cut myself, and was suicidal. The depression still lingers, although its not as bad, I quit cutting at 18, and suicidal thoughts ended at 22. I'm now 24. And I am not a great Christian, I wish I can be better. I had all my kids out of wedlock. I have 3, had my first at 18. I try so hard not to fall into temptations but I sin, ALOT, And I always feel ashamed, and I don't feel forgiven until I ask for it.

I do not believe in the "Once saved, always saved" because no matter what, u will always be a sinner. There is no such thing as a perfect and holy person, other than Jesus Christ. So, if you sin, you must ask for forgiveness, if you don't then you are not forgiven

Would anyone know of anywhere I can get the book of Enoch for free, or maybe a website like Biblegateway that would have it?