Spinning Machine

When the High Priest having sacrificed the annual sin offering on the alter, he would take the blood in his hand and cast it seven times in the direction of the Tabernacle as a sign of perfection. When our Lord Jesus hung dead on His alter on the cross I find it interesting He shed His Holy blood from seven wounds... His head = 1 His hands = 2 His flanks = 2 His FEET = 2 Haveing spent some time researching Gods chosen number I have learned many thought provoking things like this.

OH come now Shiloh you really are pulling at strings and this race card of yours is going to back fire on you very soon, why are you now meddling in a question between me and Nebula ?

The noun of debating is debates which is to consider ( SOMETHING ) now as we are debating the scriptures, how can I consider your opinion without you giveing me, the chapter plus verse plus the second witness verse so I can figure out whether your opinion is based in scripture. Now Nebula I have answered your questions the very best I can here and in the other thread, as I have others but I have said the Supreme court building in Isreal is a Masonic temple, have you investigated this yet ? has anyone ? I have given my opinions with physical evidence and scriptures which do not contradict themselves nor did they need anything added to them,as they are self explanatory, if you do not agree thats your opinion , but if you can not provide scriptures in support of your opinion then I have ( NOTHING ) to consider and therefore no longer a debate, which you nChrist have also just done "with presumptions added". This makes my position untenable, and for these same reasons and others I had to opt out as will I also do here. I shall ignor the many derogatory insults directed at me, my name change sinning to spinning which in my country and others a person who lies is called a head spinner or "spinning a story", lies, I have strong opinions based on many hours of impartial research, combined with hard evidence, I do admit to being rough man, but I am no ignorant lying anti-semitic bullying racist. God forbid ! Anyway its better to become wise as serpents before becomeing harmless as a doves Matthew 10:16. ps: as my harmless slang "go figar" consider or "go medi" meditate offends I shall stop, as I do not wish to offend, however if the truth in my posts offends, so be it.

So let me elaorate as you see fit to rephrase ? If I lived in a country where a group of people claiming to be Jews by lineage, who did not believe Jesus is the Son of God, where being put to death, would I then turn my back on my Savior and claim to be one of these people ? what do you think ? but if I lived in a country where a group of people claiming to be Jews by faith who believed that Jesus is the Son of God, where being put to death, would I then turn my back on my Savior and not claim to be one these people ? what do you think ? The differance between you and me is I believe all the scriptures as they are written, Matthew 16:25 go medi

Golden Eagle I am sorry, but can not make any sense of your graft, but let me say this I believe all the scriptures, but do you ? eg: 1 Timothy 2:4 do you truly believe this verse ? I do, how about this one 1 John 4:14. Do understand I believe these verses, so therefore I believe the prophecies of Isaiah eg: 52:10 ...;and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God. Now think about this and then ask me a question I can answer without pages of lengthy explanation. when I say "go figar" { figured; figuring; figures} it means to consider ( think over) its just harmless Kiwi slang I picked up.

Shiloh this is especialy for you and your imaginary freind, I have only given three verses plus three extra translations so there is no room for you and your freind to worm your way around the truth ps: Its my fault, but you replied to a post that I ment for Nebula, it is clear to me you know the scriptures, be it you don't believe them. And if you [Paul is writing to GENTILE Galatians] be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s SEED, and HEIRS according to the PROMISE" (Gal. 3:29). "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature [or creation]. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the ISRAEL OF GOD" (Gal. 6:15-16). Yes, it is the "new creature in Christ Jesus" which is now "the ISRAEL OF GOD," not the Christ forsaking Jews of modern day Palestine. "…they who ARE the Israel of God" (The Twentieth Century N. T.). "…on the TRUE Israel of God" (Williams Translation). "…to the TRUE Israel of God" (Phillips Translation That said if the "Jews" living in Isreal where to fall to their knees and accept our Lord Jesus Christ I would cry great big tears of joy.

Nebula, Ok I will answer your odd question ~ "IF" I new what I know now back in those days, I would have had to have bean a Prophet, because it is with the "help" of technology I know what I know today, and therefore not being under the law, I would not have voluntarily worn the seal of Solomon and Freemasons quintessences symbol, as this is idolatry and against my faith and therefore against God, However that said if the SS got wind of me preaching Pauls apistles and gave me the choice of life or death, then I guess I would now be just another forgotten Christian martyr of WW2.

Cobalt, I will be brief as I am currently putting some verses together for my freind Shiloh, you think you are being smart with your question, but I have an answer and its scriptual Matthew 22:30 is very clear in heaven we will be spiritual creatures like angels, Paul in Galations 3:23-29 explains that those who believe in Christ are no longer subject to the penalty of the law, because we are now spiritual creatures, even though we are yet carnal in the flesh and mind, we are now spiritual Jews as our hearts are now circumsized. You can play the race card all you want by useing the anti-semitic phrase, but it will not stick, as I have not said one word against the people who live in the state of Isreal, , as the scriptures are very clear that "ALL IS OF GOD" eg: Proverbs 16:1-4 ps: I am curious as my post was addressed to Shiloh, In 43 years of being a Christian have you not read this verse 1 Peter 4:15

Fez, I have posted it, its on one of the other zionist threads about replacement theology, my notebook went on the blink, I am still haveing problems and keap loosing my link, anyway the zionists have only come up with Paul being from the tribe of Benjamin and some Jewish Italians and imaginary freinds who talk to themselves to try convince me I am not a Jew be it a spiritual one but a Jew none the less, sorry about this prehaps you can navigate your way over, it could be interesting, I mean here is me calling myself a Jew according to the scriptures and telling it the way it is and I get referred to as a raceist anti-semitic conspiracy theorist, and I have yet to tell them the bad news. go figar

Shiloh what are you babbling on about, 1st century rhetoric, Paul's imaginary opponent etc etc: pray tell have you not read or heard about Gods Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost , Oh, I am still waiting for the scriptures that say I am not the new Jew. ps: have a google at the Supreme Courts of Isreal and tell yourself it is not a Masonic temple, and I dont do anti-semitic anything how could I being a Spiritual Jew. I love all my fellow man, even the ones who hate Jesus, because He was brutally sacrificed for all men. so I do not hate what my Lord died for. I tell you what I will go find some more scriptures to prove that I am also the new Isrealite and so you can do your rhetoric imaginary freind thingy bob, he he

I have given the verse plus a second wittness that Pauls letter was to the Gentiles, it is comman knowledge the Apostle Paul's epistles are to the Gentiles Romans 11:13 it is you, who does not believe the Words of God and to convince yourself and others of this worldly doctrin of Zionism you have to add to the scriptures by saying Pauls letters where written to "Jews" living in Italy, and to back up this assumption you reffer to Philippians where Paul states he is from the tribe of Benjamin ? It is very clear to me you have not a clue to what is written in The Holy Bible and therefore have no knowledge of Gods salvation plan for all men. go figar

Yes of course God will save all Isreal, Romans 11:26 as prophesied by Isaiah 26:9 "...: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousnes. and 52:10 "....; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God. 2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation

Excuse me if I do not cut and past and don't do the, I said, you said thing. Anyway Shiloh, I am sorry but I will not waist my time with your un-scriptural nonsense , imaginary unbelieving Jews, Paul wtitting his epistles to himself with the help of an interlocuter ????? The rest of your post is void of supporting scripturer, which is no surprise as there are none ! ps: Romans 1:7 is very clear who Pauls letter is addressing ! 2 Timothy 3:16 is very clear that all scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and no Paul did not suck it from his thumb talking to himself. As for your post Nebula it is just speculation and like Shiloh's void of any supporting scripture, you both naively sneer at my well researched comment, that the state of Isreal is a Masonic owned and run enterprise, one only has to look at the building of The Isreal Supreme Court to appreciate this documented fact. go figar

Sorry I got lost there for a bit, my little note book went on the blink, and now I can not find the thread where I asked some very important questions to determin if this web-site puts zionism before the truth. I managed to read the answers I got in back in the last hour, but if I keap going in and out of spam, where they are, I loose my link, so apologies if I do not address each of you. So to cut to the chase, Now then, who are the "circumcised Jews" of end time prophecy? Are they the literal, physical, circumcised Jews who are the literal, physical Jews of the literal, physical racial line of Abraham? NO: "For he is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly [physically circumcised and of the physical line of Abraham] neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh: But he IS a Jew which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and NOT of the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God" (Rom. 2:28-29). Notice that this Scripture is found in "Romans." Rome is a Gentile nation, not a nation of Israel. Paul is telling Gentile Romans that THEY can be the TRUE JEW INWARDLY OF THE HEART AND SPRIT. Wow! Romans can be "JEWS?" Who would have ever thought? Maybe that was just a slip of Paul’s tongue. Surely he isn’t telling us that under the New Covenant GENTILES ARE JEWS is he? Here’s a second witness: "Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision [mutilation—those Jews who wanted to cut off the flesh of grown men among the Gentiles]. FOR WE [former pagan, present GENTILE Philippians of Philippi—North Central Greece] ARE THE CIRCUMCISION which worship God in the spirit and rejoice in Christ Jesus, an have NO confidence in the flesh" (Phil. 3:2-3). According to God, are those literal, physical Jews of the racial line of Abraham who are circumcised in the flesh, "Jews." NO, former pagan Gentiles are the TRUE JEWS according to Scripture. But weren’t all the "promises" to Abraham for "HIS SEED? Yes, of course, but the question now is, "Who IS Abraham’s seed?" "Not as though the word of God has taken none effect [God is not contradicting here]. For they are NOT all Israel, which are Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children, but, In Isaac shall your seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the FLESH, these are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: but the children of the PROMISE ARE counted for the seed" (Rom. 9:6-8). Yes, God intended from the beginning that the TRUE JEW, the SPIRITUAL JEW, the TRUE SEED of Abraham, the TRUE HEIR to the promises was to be the GENTILES! And that makes Rothschild the shepherd of todays literal Isreal, and Zionism a Masonic fraud. go figar

I request a YES or NO answer to these very important questions, which will determine my fellowship here at Worthy . The scriptures clearly state that I am a Jew Romans 2:28-29 The scriptures clearly state we are to give yes/no for answers Matthew 5:37 Questions: (1) Is Abraham's seed Jesus Christ ? (2) Do those who believe in Christ become Abraham's seed ? (3) Are believers, being Abraham's seed and now spiritual Jews Gods new chosen people ?

I am a Jew Romans 2:28-29 ! now which one of you is going to tell me I am not ?