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    The Holy Spirit did not put Words in the Bible that were so hard to understand the one needs a degree in theology to understand.

    No one needs a degree in theology to come to understand man’s lies about the written Word of God.

     

     

    I guess those Bereans just didn't get it....

     

     

    So I guess you've got Daniel and Revelation all sewn up then?

     

    The Bible itself commends study....of the Bible....sometimes understanding turns out to be more of a misunderstanding

     

    Is there a gift given to anyone that ensures that the holder thereof needs no correction?  I'm certainly not aware of such a gift nor has the Holy Spirit ever said to me that He

    has endowed some with perfect knowledge in spite of the fact that even Paul said we do not see things clearly

     

    You should be able to understand that if one is being taught and receiving the grace from the Holy Spirit, and is also being led by Jesus Christ our Lord and God, that he or she does not need to listen to anyone else.

  2. 1 corithians 14:4

    Tounges edifies the believer but if one is able to interpret it edifys the church. When we pray in toumges we ask for things our brain dont know to ask for. Personally, I try not to in front of others but sometimes the spirit takes over my mouth. I try to do so quietly because I got a look from a brother one time that was classic.

    John love, I have a question for you. When you got a tounge and your wife got the interpretation did you know she would tell you the interpretation or did you just have unction to speak in tounges or what. I have never had another person give interpretation but have gotten interpretation as I spoke. Just wondering how it happened for you is all.

    I sing in tounges too.

    The first time Jesus used the gift of tongues, and my wife's gift of interpreting tongues to answer my question, it was not expected by me.  Jesus used this method of answering my questions for about a year.  Then one night he told me: " No more, I want you to pray to be open to my touch, and my word all day long.  From that time on Jesus has just talked to me, and tells me what to do and how to do it.  

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    Study?  What do you study?  Do you study some other persons understanding of God/God’s written Word?

    The Word of God is a directive to us as to life and how to live it here in the death...

    so by reliance on God's Spirit through teachers I learn the miracle of knowing God and

    what He wants from me as His individual for a collective purpose of His Glory...

    Eph 4:11-15

    11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,

    evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting

    of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the

    body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and

    of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the

    measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we

    henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about

    with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning

    craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the

    truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head,

    even Christ:

    KJV

     

    If you study someone else’s understanding about God, then you are just making an assumption he or she had the correct understanding, is that not right?

    By the above verse and testing the spirit of all messages that is given me by The Word I am

    lead by God The Holy Spirit into all truth... it is a work of prayer and searching with all

    of the mind, heart and strength and I never give up for in it is life to me... Plus as I do

    as His Word instructs me I also have God's blessed promise of finding:

    Jer 29:11-13

    11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord,

    thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

    12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and

    I will hearken unto you. 13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when

    ye shall search for me with all your heart.

    KJV

     

    The only way one can come to know God is to allow God to teach him or her.  Do you believe you/or anyone else is a better teacher then God?

    This is a novice understanding as the whole council of God tells us to utilize His Word on the how of everything.

    You have completely ignored what God says through Paul of how God expects us to learn from His Holy Spirit...

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”

    This is the most misunderstood passage of Scripture and it is well represented here to its meaning:

    When the apostle asserted that believers do not need other teachers, he was not advocating

    a mystical anti-intellectualism that spurns all human teachers. On the contrary, the Lord

    has given the church godly pastors, elders, and teachers “for the equipping of the saints

    for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ” (Eph 4:12; cf. v. 11; 1 Cor 12:28).

    John's point is that believers must not rely on human wisdom or man-centered philosophy (cf. 1 Cor 1:18-2:9; Col 2:8)

    but on the teaching of God's Word by Spirit-gifted human teachers and the illuminating work

    of the Holy Spirit.

    Here's a good treatise on the whole subject:

    http://www.gotquestions.org/judge-teachings-leaders.html

    Love, Steven

     

    You could not answer my question about studying other people’s understanding of God, so you used your understanding of scripture to say I am wrong.

    Paul told us the only way one can come to know God is to have God teach him or her.

     

    (1 Corinthians 2:10-16)  “These are the very things that God has revealed to us through the Spirit, for the Spirit reaches the depts. Of everything, even the depths of God.  After all, the depths of a man can only be known by his own spirit, not by any other man, and in the same way the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit of God. Now instead of the spirit of the world, we have received the Spirit that comes from God, to teach us to understand the gifts that he has given us.  Therefore we teach, not in the way in which philosophy is taught, but in the way that the Spirit teaches us: we teach spiritual things spiritually.  A spiritual man, on the other hand, is able to judge the value of everything and his own value in not to be judged by other men.  As scripture says;’ who can know the mind of the Lord, so who can teach him?’  But we are those who have the mind of Christ.” 

    Paul also told us the one would behave as the Holy Spirit dictates.  Now the Holy Spirit is only going to dictate the written Word of God.  That is something one can trust.  No one can trust what man dictates, unless he or she ask Jesus if what man dictated is right or wrong.  Again it is God teach us about God.

     

    (Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.”

     

    So you tell me that I misunderstood what John said about the Holy Spirit teaching Christians everything.

     

    Just how dumb does one need to be not to understand what John wrote?  Remember John’s writings are the written Word of God.  There is no hidden message in John’s writings. 

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”  Very simple and fifth grade student can read it and understand what John wrote.

     

    The Holy Spirit did not put Words in the Bible that were so hard to understand the one needs a degree in theology to understand.

    No one needs a degree in theology to come to understand man’s lies about the written Word of God.

     

    When Jesus first called me into his ministry I asked him what seminary to attend.  Jesus told me:" NO! Don't read about me, I will teach you about me."  Soon after Jesus told me that, the Holy Spirit told me to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God, be it a priest, bishop, or anyone they were to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong.

     

    Jesus/Holy Spirit is my teacher.  

     

    Jesus has personally told me he is God, and that the Christian Bible is his written Word.  By the way the only bible I had at that time was a Jerusalem Bible, and Jesus told me to get more into it.  Jesus has used that bible to help teach me about him.

     

    Jesus has shown himself to me, and has called me out by name.

     

     (John 10:1-5)"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."

     

    So you don't like to see scripture highlighted in bold, and red, well for you I will not do so anymore.  Now tell me is that a forum rule, or just your personal dislike? 

  4. Can you give some examples of different applications with scripture references? 

    I will at this time give you personal applications, because it is late, and it is not important for me to convince you.  

     

    Jesus had me use tongues when I was first being taught about him.  I would have a question of Jesus, and then would get a tongue, which my wife would receive the interpretation. It would always be the answer to my question.

     

    I personally pray in tongues to lift up Jesus in praise.  

     

    Jesus would at times give me the interpretation of a tongue to communicate with me , but my relationship with him is now at a point that he no longer uses tongues to communicate with me.  

     

    What Jesus has for me to bring to the church is told to me directly.   

     

    I pray in tongues often, and it is a prayer of praise of our Lord and God Jesus.

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    When one does not know how to pray, then pray in tongues.  But always end a prayer asking for God's will to be done.

     

     

     

    Why would you pray in tongues? Isn't speaking in tongues meant to edify the church? To present a message and be interpreted and examined against the Word of God?

     

    When one does not know what to pray, then let the Holy Spirit pray for him or her.  Praying in tongues has many different applications. 

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    You could not answer my question about studying other people’s understanding of God, so you used your understanding of scripture to say I am wrong.

    Paul told us the only way one can come to know God is to have God teach him or her.

     

    (1 Corinthians 2:10-16)  “These are the very things that God has revealed to us through the Spirit, for the Spirit reaches the depts. Of everything, even the depths of God.  After all, the depths of a man can only be known by his own spirit, not by any other man, and in the same way the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit of God. Now instead of the spirit of the world, we have received the Spirit that comes from God, to teach us to understand the gifts that he has given us.  Therefore we teach, not in the way in which philosophy is taught, but in the way that the Spirit teaches us: we teach spiritual things spiritually.  A spiritual man, on the other hand, is able to judge the value of everything and his own value in not to be judged by other men.  As scripture says;’ who can know the mind of the Lord, so who can teach him?’  But we are those who have the mind of Christ.” 

    Paul also told us the one would behave as the Holy Spirit dictates.  Now the Holy Spirit is only going to dictate the written Word of God.  That is something one can trust.  No one can trust what man dictates, unless he or she ask Jesus if what man dictated is right or wrong.  Again it is God teach us about God.

     

    (Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.”

     

    So you tell me that I misunderstood what John said about the Holy Spirit teaching Christians everything.

     

    Just how dumb does one need to be not to understand what John wrote?  Remember John’s writings are the written Word of God.  There is no hidden message in John’s writings. 

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”  Very simple and fifth grade student can read it and understand what John wrote.

     

    The Holy Spirit did not put Words in the Bible that were so hard to understand the one needs a degree in theology to understand.

    No one needs a degree in theology to come to understand man’s lies about the written Word of God.

    Just a personal witness left in this direction :) I learn from everyone I come into contact with

    saved or unsaved but all of it is brought under the scrutiny of Scripture... for instance I have

    learned from you in this dialogue! Thank you, love, Steven

     

    You did not say what you have learned.  I am not hear to teach.  

  7. Greetings,   I want to strengthen my relationship with God and feel more purposefully in prayer.

     

    When I pray I feel confused about what I should say.  I make a point of never asking for anything for myself , as it seems wrong to use God as a kind of wishing machine.  Although I’m sure if I was really desperate I would.

     

      In prayer, I ask for forgiveness for my sins, and always offer thanks for what has recently happened to me.  I do however ask for specifics regarding the health and happiness of those around me.  I also ask for guidance or for signs that God is looking out for me, or a direction for me to take.

     

    I’m frustrated that I don’t see signs or understand any guidance that may have come my way.  Is this a common feeling?

     

    My question is how do you manage your prayer, and get to feeling closer to God, like a friend or father?  For me often it feels like I’m going through to motions and I feel formal and no quite relaxed as I would talking to a friend.

     

    Many thanks for your reading of my post.

     

    Mick.

    When one does not know how to pray, then pray in tongues.  But always end a prayer asking for God's will to be done.

  8. (John 10:27) “The sheep that belong to me listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.”

       

    Personally when God speaks to me I just know it is God.  Over the last forty some years what God has said to me has always led me to walk his Word.

     

    My wife heard Satan speak to her audible, and she knew that it was not God and just shouted out NO, when he spoke to her.  Satan is ugly, and everything he does is ugly, and one knows it is not God by the content of the message.  

  9. (John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

     

    Is not God’s home the kingdom of God? 

     

    Jesus told us that Heaven and Earth would pass away.  Seems he was telling us Heaven was separate from Earth.

  10. Study?  What do you study?  Do you study some other persons understanding of God/God’s written Word?

    The Word of God is a directive to us as to life and how to live it here in the death...

    so by reliance on God's Spirit through teachers I learn the miracle of knowing God and

    what He wants from me as His individual for a collective purpose of His Glory...

    Eph 4:11-15

    11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,

    evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting

    of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the

    body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and

    of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the

    measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we

    henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about

    with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning

    craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the

    truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head,

    even Christ:

    KJV

     

    If you study someone else’s understanding about God, then you are just making an assumption he or she had the correct understanding, is that not right?

    By the above verse and testing the spirit of all messages that is given me by The Word I am

    lead by God The Holy Spirit into all truth... it is a work of prayer and searching with all

    of the mind, heart and strength and I never give up for in it is life to me... Plus as I do

    as His Word instructs me I also have God's blessed promise of finding:

    Jer 29:11-13

    11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord,

    thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

    12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and

    I will hearken unto you. 13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when

    ye shall search for me with all your heart.

    KJV

     

    The only way one can come to know God is to allow God to teach him or her.  Do you believe you/or anyone else is a better teacher then God?

    This is a novice understanding as the whole council of God tells us to utilize His Word on the how of everything.

    You have completely ignored what God says through Paul of how God expects us to learn from His Holy Spirit...

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”

    This is the most misunderstood passage of Scripture and it is well represented here to its meaning:

    When the apostle asserted that believers do not need other teachers, he was not advocating

    a mystical anti-intellectualism that spurns all human teachers. On the contrary, the Lord

    has given the church godly pastors, elders, and teachers “for the equipping of the saints

    for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ” (Eph 4:12; cf. v. 11; 1 Cor 12:28).

    John's point is that believers must not rely on human wisdom or man-centered philosophy (cf. 1 Cor 1:18-2:9; Col 2:8)

    but on the teaching of God's Word by Spirit-gifted human teachers and the illuminating work

    of the Holy Spirit.

    Here's a good treatise on the whole subject:

    http://www.gotquestions.org/judge-teachings-leaders.html

    Love, Steven

    You could not answer my question about studying other people’s understanding of God, so you used your understanding of scripture to say I am wrong.

    Paul told us the only way one can come to know God is to have God teach him or her.

     

    (1 Corinthians 2:10-16)  “These are the very things that God has revealed to us through the Spirit, for the Spirit reaches the depts. Of everything, even the depths of God.  After all, the depths of a man can only be known by his own spirit, not by any other man, and in the same way the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit of God. Now instead of the spirit of the world, we have received the Spirit that comes from God, to teach us to understand the gifts that he has given us.  Therefore we teach, not in the way in which philosophy is taught, but in the way that the Spirit teaches us: we teach spiritual things spiritually.  A spiritual man, on the other hand, is able to judge the value of everything and his own value in not to be judged by other men.  As scripture says;’ who can know the mind of the Lord, so who can teach him?’  But we are those who have the mind of Christ.” 

    Paul also told us the one would behave as the Holy Spirit dictates.  Now the Holy Spirit is only going to dictate the written Word of God.  That is something one can trust.  No one can trust what man dictates, unless he or she ask Jesus if what man dictated is right or wrong.  Again it is God teach us about God.

     

    (Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.”

     

    So you tell me that I misunderstood what John said about the Holy Spirit teaching Christians everything.

     

    Just how dumb does one need to be not to understand what John wrote?  Remember John’s writings are the written Word of God.  There is no hidden message in John’s writings. 

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”  Very simple and fifth grade student can read it and understand what John wrote.

     

    The Holy Spirit did not put Words in the Bible that were so hard to understand the one needs a degree in theology to understand.

    No one needs a degree in theology to come to understand man’s lies about the written Word of God.

  11. If you think about it, there's no such thing as political correctness, at least not in a free society that believes in some sort of democracy. The term 'Political Correctness' was actually invented by a Marxist think tank before the Second World War.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

     

    How it came to be accepted in modern times is the result of a moment of blindness on the part of Western society. Even Conservatives have accepted the term which is quite astonishing if you think about it. It was probably because when it was first re-introduced in the late Twentieth Century it was meant to be slightly tongue-in-cheek so that at first nobody took it seriously until it had been fully accepted (who says that Satan doesn't have a sense of humour).

    Political correctness is disguised as civility and politeness (so that people don't say anything racist or sexist for example) but it's real aim was always to have an Orwellian effect on populations.

    When political correctness became fashionable we were told that we couldn't use certain words any longer. Now that as may be, who was it that actually decided what words were unacceptable and what particular words were meant to replace them?

    I don't remember voting for these people. Come to think of it, I don't even remember 'not' voting for them. I don't even remember anybody voting for them. In fact, I don't even know who they are. Do you?

    Who actually belongs to these faceless committees who decide what words we can and cannot use?

    Who decided that the word 'gay' for example, should have been hijacked and now used to describe homosexuals and how did they manage to put pressure on others to accept it? It's not just the fact that they wanted to hijack a word and censor other words, but why 'gay'? Why not 'happy' or 'jolly'? Who actually decided to use this particular word? I certainly don't know - do you?

     

    Political Correctness is actually very sinister if you think about it. It's actually a form of propaganda, and guess what? What's worse, is that it is incredibly successful. Yes, even in this day and age, despite the fact that we are surrounded by information and are probably more educated than any other people in history.

    We are meant to know about propaganda. We live in a post-Nazi, post-Soviet World and yet, we've still embraced this thing that makes us think twice before we open our mouths, makes us scratch our heads while we decide what words to use, and makes us careful of how we speak unless the 'thought police' might be listening!

     

    Political correctness has caused a lot of damage. We cannot criticise Islamic terrorism for fear of being called 'racist' yet Islam is an ideology, not a race. We cannot express God's role in life for men and women, for fear of being called 'sexist'. We cannot point out that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called 'homophobic'.

     

    Political Correctness is a tool of Satan, designed to tell us how to think and what to think. It has no place in a free society.

    If you ever meet anybody that is politically-correct and proud to be so, then tell them truthfully that they are gullible and have fallen for the lie!

    Everything in the world is of Satan.  Satan controls the world's thinking.

  12. I dont remember if it was an atom that exploded and expanded or something more complex that did it but the big bang theory while called a theory to scientis is a fact. Now I thought about this big bang theory see Nothing can exist without being created so I got into a debate with my friend who fully believes the big bang.

     

    I kept asking how this happened and what created it till we got to the very first thing in the big bang theory which I think was an atom or something I asked what created it and he said nothing it was just there. I said how could it just exist without being created and he said how can God exist without being created and I said we dont know we ar to just have faith and lean not on our own understanding.

     

    He then said then in the same way science requires faith that the atom just existed.

    One either believes in a supernatural being, or a supernatural rock.

  13. Does a believer need a destiny helper?

    What is the meaning of a destiny helper?

    who is our destiny helper?

    does bible support a believer to pray to God for a destiny helper,

    what do you guys make of this Quote,

    Untill you locate your destiny helper,

    you may never arrive at your divine location,

    any passage in the bible support this quote above?

    I have the believe that some people that call them self a believer,

    does not read the bible with a common understanding.

    Could the destiny helper be the Holy Spirit?

  14. What does it mean to ask God for a sign after God made a promise to you or after you heard the voice of God,do you guys think it is biblical to ask God for a sign,i was reading a thread posted by someone,in one of the forums,the person said that he knew that asking God for a sign is a sin,i read all the replies no body proved his believe that; it is a sin to ask God for sign wrong,does that means that asking God for a sign is a sin,or does it meaning that the person is doubting God or questioning God's ability to perform His promise,if you hear God boldly and expresselly telling you that he will bless you with your heart desire before this month runs out,and you ask Him to show you a sign,does that meaning you are doubting Him or you are sinning against God.

    If you receive a sign how do you know it is from God?  A Christian is given the Holy Spirit which dictates to him or her what is right or wrong.

     

    (Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.”

     

    Also Jesus said he would call his own out by name, and they would follow no other. So a spiritual Christian will be told by Jesus/Holy Spirit what is right or wrong.

  15. I personally find the King James Bible to be error filled.  I don't believe this way, because of any study, but because the Holy Spirit has pointed out errors as I have read that translation.

     

    Personally it does not make much difference to me what bible I read, because Jesus/Holy Spirit will give me the correct meaning of any verse.

    Wow and I thought The Holy Spirit gave us this responsibility:

    2 Tim 2:15

    15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that

    needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    KJV

    As I understand it God gives me the responsibility to study and then upon that

    obedience His Holy Spirit guides me into the truth that will never pass away...

    Love, Steven

     

    Study?  What do you study?  Do you study some other persons understanding of God/God’s written Word? 

     

    If you study someone else’s understanding about God, then you are just making an assumption he or she had the correct understanding, is that not right?

     

    The only way one can come to know God is to allow God to teach him or her.  Do you believe you/or anyone else is a better teacher then God?

     

    (1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”

  16. Putting The Lord before everyone and everything else.

    This is one thing I' m not even sure I understand, let alone think I'm capable of doing. I want to, I know that is how it is supposed to be but I've never figured out what that would look like.

    Right now, and probably for the past 14 years, I would have to say my children are number one for me.

    We attend church every week, are quite involved and connected there. We talk of God during the week, our Sunday school lessons often become the basis for further discussion.

    Recently, our pastor spoke about this topic, and invited anyone for further discussion to join him afterward, I did, and he said I seemed like I was doing all the right things. Is it just Christian guilt? That I'll never be good enough (which is true, we don't save ourselves). Is it a mother's guilt? That I'm not doing enough to teach them about God. Is it my own anxiety? Perhaps I am doing fine, but how would I know? As I said to my pastor, I am not about to pull an Abraham to prove how much I love Him. (And we've all heard stories of unfortunate people who have).

    Combine my own questioning with a few people in my life who have recently thrown this phrase around like my 6 year old trying to hit the laundry basket with a dirty sock, and I am really wondering what it looks like in this crazy life we live. I can't think of a single family in the same stage of life I am in who can say God is number one. I see it in our seniors at church but out in the race the rest of us run...not so much.

    So tell me, what do I do, how would I feel, how do I know that I am putting God above all else?

    Yikes! Should have named myself RamblingDee!

    Thanks for any advice you've got...

    D

    Jesus once told me to give him the first few moments of every situation. 

  17. Galatians 5:19-21

    Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

    21 Envying, murders, drunkenness, reveling, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

     

    In the above bible verses the word witchcraft is the one I am interested in. The Greek word that is translated as witchcraft is the same word we get the English word pharmacy from, if I am not mistaken. So is this specifically talking about drugs? Could this be understood as forbidding drugs, in context with the rest of scripture of course.

     

    P.S. No, I am not saying we are not suppose to go to a doctor if we are sick

    No scripture does no ban drugs.

  18. It is quite evident from the scriptures  that when God says this: "I will do this IF you will do that", He places a condition upon His "doing".

     

    While keeping in mind all of the previous promises God had made __ and broken, in this example God is liking Israel's sin to Leprosy and offering His cure: "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

    [However] "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

     But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it" Isaiah 1:18-20 (KJV)

     

    I believe God administers His Grace to us in like manner, don't you?

     

    [Emphasis mine]

    Yes.

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