Danielle86

Thank you my brother that was amazing praise be to God most high.

In John 6:65 it reads (And He said. Therefore I said unto you, that no man can come unto me , except it were given unto him by my father . NKJ  .  Other translations reads granted .  What are your thoughts .

 

I never spoke about deviating .  Or pushing aside scripture and cant understand why everyone is taking so much offence from this and after alllllllllll you just said .  You still have no idea what Im talking about .  And its ok if you dont .  God bless

 

Are you sure it is everyone else taking offence?  Or that no one understands?

 

The reason most people have responded by telling you there is no pattern, is because there is no pattern.

 

You are using subjective experience to confirm your belief.  It is simply your own experience.

 

No need to be so dismissive.  I don't think anyone here is offended other then perhaps yourself and I am sorry about that.

 

You keep asuming things about me .  But Ill leave it at that .  Please enjoy the rest of your day .

In Acts 2:17  In the last days,'God says  I will pour out my Spirit on all people . Your sons and daughters will prophesy.  Your young men will see visions.  Your old men will dream dreams .   Thats what the bible says about dreams and visions .  I think You have to be asleep to dream dont you and awake to see a vision lol unless you dream of having a vision . .    We are spirit beings our bodies  needs sleep but our spirits not the spirit realm is very real more that the natural realm.  God created all things so dreams and visions come from God but when we are tuned into the wrong frequincy we can pick up wrong visions and even our dreams can become deterred .  When ever  there is a vision given there is a purpose for something to come to pass .  Dreams can warn us or reveal things to us we can also be given messages in our dreams .  Dont know how much this help this is my understanding .

The only "pattern" I have found is He moves within me, in the spirit, and I stop and wonder what that was.  He answers by showing me what I need to know.  I can then accept it or reject it.  This "pattern" continues to this day.

 

At first, it was hard to determine what was happening, but the more I looked to Him, the easier it became to communicate.  What used to have me wondering is now one means of communication, which I look for all the time.

Thanks OneLight thanks for sharing with me . 

Hi Danielle, nice to hear from you.

 

From my own experiences and those of people I know, i don't think  there is a pattern to us finding God.  

 

In fact the more I hear and see I think it is more a case that God finds us.

 

I don't think the natural man has a heart inclined to God, natural man is a fallen being living in a fallen world.  But praise God he does not leave us alone and without

the opportunity to turn to him.  I suppose the big question is, what happens when we know God is speaking, do we turn  and listen or do we turn away.

 

Here are a few examples I know of.

 

A relative of mine attend a funeral a number of years ago.  During the service the 23rd Psalm was read over the grave.  I should mention that this person had never even thought of God or church before, apart from weddings, funerals etc.  During the reading of the Psalm they felt as if God was speaking it direct to them, so strong was this feeling that while everyone else was stood by the grave side with heads bowed, this person was looking around the cemetery fulling expecting to see God.  From that moment on, this person  knew God was real and that very next Sunday they attended church for the very first time and were saved.

 

Another person I know (who is now a church minister), one day while travelling along a road, he passed a large statue which had its arms held out. Suddenly they recalled the verse in the bible about the sheep and the goats Matt 25 v 31 - 34 where the sheep were on the right and the goats on the left.  It suddenly became very important to him to try to work out whether he had passed this statue on the left or the right and they realised they did not want to be on the left.  Through that simple act of passing this statue, this person

went on to be saved and has been in ministry ever since.

 

I know of another person a number of years ago who was hitch hiking (i don't personally think this is a safe thing to do and I would not encourage it).  But anyway several cars stopped to give this person a  lift and everyone single one was a christian who shared the massage of salvation with this person. By the time they got in the last car, the hitch hiker turned to the driver and said "i suppose you are a christian as well!" of course the driver was and had the privilege of leading this person to Christ.

 

Then there is the example of Saul / Paul in the bible of course wow was that dramatic.  Maybe we should thank God that he does to strike us blind to get our attention.

 

I am pretty certain that for people, maybe without even realising it, there will have been moments where God has revealed himself to them or where the seed has been

planted for revelation to come at a later date.

 

But we then have a choice to make.

 

I do understand your analogy of the temple etc as there are different levels on which to get to know God on,  personally I tend to think of it as going deeper and deeper, especially due to certain things God has shown me over the years.

 

God Bless

Wow thanks for sharing that with me just think the you put that was so amazing .  FYI you know really cool poeple .  This just put a smile on my face.

I never spoke about deviating .  Or pushing aside scripture and cant understand why everyone is taking so much offence from this and after alllllllllll you just said .  You still have no idea what Im talking about .  And its ok if you dont .  God bless

Thank you all for your comments .  Like I said I was hoping that I would come accross someone who has had such and experience that would share with me what it is like .  Never ment to offend anyone and wassent hoping to acheive anything just to share .  God bless .

Any yes you rite any believer can access if they really want to .

Thanks sevenseas I appreciate your answer.  Please dont get me wrong in when you say to many want personal experiences dreams ,visions ecs.  And maybe Im not putting this very clearly I have met people that have entered in and it is biblical there are many scriptures that back it .  Not may of us have pushed through to this extent and this not ment as insult please forgive me if it comes across like that .  It is simply about God making himself know.  When I say there is a patern ( Ask and it shall be given you - this is outer court it is were you ask for things)  Seek and you shall find (The Holy Place , here you get revelation of Gods word and God deals with you ,  You worship ) .  Knock and the door will be opened up to you( Now this is the Holy of Hollies when God lets you in here silence becomes worship ) God makes His presence know ( Be still and know that I am God ) .  God deals with your fear when you come out , you know who you are .  you are not afraid af anything the world has to throw at you coz you know that you are backed by God almighty Himself the great I am.  When you come out you are diffrent coz you come out with Him and the world recognizes it though they cannot put their finger on it.  It is at this point you fully walk in Him    .  This said I have not entered in but I will continue practising Gods presence till He pulls me in .  When you at this place you cannot backslide and you cannot be fooled by the lies of the enemy coz truth dwels with you and you know Him and He knows you and you know His voice.  I was hoping that someone with such and experience whould be able to tell me their what it is like.

Hi Alejandro

Yes and no though you do make some very insightfull point .  I apreciate that alot.

Yes but that is when you come to salvation and the knowledge there of Im talking about when as a mature christian you seek the presence of God and get to know the person of who He is .  Please dont say you can learn that in the bible you could through study and revelation of the word in essence whom is God but when he becomes so real that your heart beat becomes like His.  And you are led fully by Him when all fear is delt with .

So sorry will do so.

In the bible there is mention of a Outer court , the holy place and the Holy of Holies .  Now I’m not talking just about the temple .

Has anyone ever entered the Holy of Hollies and God made His presence know to you .  Please let me know .

Praying  hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

 

Hi rlfani

I hope I can help you do not divorce your wife God does not change and His word does not either .  You dont need to be inlove with your wife to know you love her ok.  Being inlove does not last

also if you leave your wife there is no saying that your being inlove feellings will last anyways this will get messy and you wont have peace .  Gods word says what God has put together let no man asunder .  God hates devorce .  As a christian you know our fight is not against flesh and blood the enemy has set a trap for you to meet this women ,  unless you thought it was God ordained think again God is Holy he connot change and will not just to satisfy your flesh.  Yes there is a baby involved but just the fact that she is already using your unborn baby a a porn to keep you is not rite you have two beatifull kids God has blessed you with and they need their father .  God created marrige for a reason , He sees it as Holy parents are the

protectors of thier children do not give satan acces to your kids and wife because what is happening to you rite now  seems more real then the plan of God in your life.   The best thing you can do is to stick to Gods word stay in your marrige and you and your wife and kids pray like never before for as long as it takes .  God will restore all things to you and family if you allow Him to .  Well I can almost hear you say how do you know you dont know anything .  I know coz I was lonley and my husband neglected me and I met someone amazing and wonderfull and he made me feel like I was the most wonderfull thing in the world .  But I knew in my heart it was wrong and I confessed to my husband and his not even a christian you are so lucky that you have a wife who is a believer.  It was hard trust me but I kept holding on to Gods word and god has set me free from the soul tie that I felt and thought was love .  It seems so real but you just wait and trust God and see how God can turn this around  you love your wife  your love is just dimmed coz you share a soul tie with a person whom you should not have allowed into your heart .   

1.  Put Gods word first and His teaching concerning devorce and marrige

2.  Dont make any sudden moves

3. You can still love your unborn kid without leaving your wife

4. Fight with everything you have inside of you for the family God has blessed you with.

The bible says resist the devil and he will flee.  So resist with all you have. 

God bless I could go on and on but I know that devorce is not Gods will for your marrige. 

I think its diffrent for many people some people call themselves christian simply coz they not born muslim but they have no intrest in God or the bible , others are religious and follow an order or

doctrine this is so there may be order in a church so all churches form a doctrine  In religion its all about facts there is no believe in healings, phophesy, deliverance .  But this also creates the fact that poeple follow rules and do not get to know God and allow themselves to have a relationship with Him .  As for the fear of the Lord you see many today teach that God is love and He is the father waiting on his children to come home and that Jesus is the way to the father .  this is true but God is also Holy and pure and evil connot stand in his presence .  He is majestic He is King of Kings so even as a princein the kingdom you are to revere God .  When you love God and have a relationship with Him you idiology changes the way you persieve God is diffrent .  Sin leads to death and seperation of us and God ( sin can not stand in his presence )  But the bible says therefore there is no condemnation for us who are in Christ Jesus .  We are the rightousness of God in Christ Jesus .  Note IN HIM appart from him we are nothing .  we connot please God and we connot attone for anything but in Him -Jesus we are ecceptable to God .  The diffrence between a sinner and a believer is this .  That the believer can be forgiven the sinner not for that they would have to eccept the sacrificial lamb whom is Jesus .  the believer's  sin  is forgiven not sometimes all the time HOW?  He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness (1John 1.9).   Hope this helps

Hi

I agree with Marilyn C.  The idea of aliens can be expained but sounds to crazy .  Truth be told I think we would all be better

of not watching toooooooo much TV  

I dont know I just believe I feel as if my whole life depends on it .  I pray to God that as I exchange all I am for all He is

that my life will be transformed.

I will pray for you also.

I hope I can help  .  you asked a simple question and deserve a simple answer .  I was a catholic for 26 years of my life and have heard

These teaching all my .  It is a question I too asked the Lord many times.  The answer is NO purgatory  is not real .  If it were it would mean that God and the trinity of God is

A lie .  Why do I say that .  Coz it would defeat the purpose of Jesus dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.  If we could pay for our own sins by serving time in purgatory

Then we could pretty much live just the way we like.  It is a lie as there a many lies thought especially by the catholic church.  But like you  I too was seeking the truth .

If a teaching is contradicting the word of God then it is a lie and onslaught of the enemy.  The wage of sin is death (Romans6:23) .  The bible also says (No man cometh to the Father but through the Son)that is found in John 14:06.